AICN: There’s an ARCHER & ARMSTRONG Movie in the works

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:28:02 pm

Dance of joy, if true!!!!!!!!!!

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magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:33:54 pm

Keith wrote:Dance of joy, if true!!!!!!!!!!

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Captain Craig · Post by **Captain Craig** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:13:47 pm

Would be nice to know
A) Which studio allegedly has the script done and is looking to produce the A&A film
B) Does said studio also have Shadowman & Bloodshot? If not then talking of an interconnected film universe is moot.

Conglomerates are the way to go, it seems, in order to sustain and cross promote media of this type.
DC/Warners
Marvel/Disney

If VEI could find a parent studio that would be largely hands off while using the rich library of characters then an interconnected film universe makes sense.

NBC/Universal? If they owned VEI maybe that takes the heat off monthly sells somewhat while also allowing for expansion of the IPs via multiple methods. TV shows, cartoons and movies of course.

The Dirt Gang · Post by **The Dirt Gang** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:25:03 pm

Very interesting. It would definitely be the kind of superhero movie that hasn't been done before. At least, I can't think of anything similar.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:28:44 pm

Captain Craig wrote:Would be nice to know
A) Which studio allegedly has the script done and is looking to produce the A&A film
B) Does said studio also have Shadowman & Bloodshot? If not then talking of an interconnected film universe is moot.

Conglomerates are the way to go, it seems, in order to sustain and cross promote media of this type.
DC/Warners
Marvel/Disney

If VEI could find a parent studio that would be largely hands off while using the rich library of characters then an interconnected film universe makes sense.

NBC/Universal? If they owned VEI maybe that takes the heat off monthly sells somewhat while also allowing for expansion of the IPs via multiple methods. TV shows, cartoons and movies of course.

No one is going to be hands off with an unknown brand, unfortunately. And an interconnected movie universe was likely never going to happen.

It took DC 35 years to start an interconnected universe and no way can VALIANT create their own studio a la Marvel at this point.

I would just be happy with the amazing growth and visibility any movie would have for the brand.

Phoenix8008 · Post by **Phoenix8008** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:31:46 pm

Can't wait to hear the full announcement if this is what the big news soon was about. I hope they can keep everything at one studio. Maybe somebody out there can see the profit potential in having it's own shared universe comic book movie franchise outside of Marvel & DC?!

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:35:55 pm

Phoenix8008 wrote:Can't wait to hear the full announcement if this is what the big news soon was about. I hope they can keep everything at one studio. Maybe somebody out there can see the profit potential in having it's own shared universe comic book movie franchise outside of Marvel & DC?!

I would hope that someone could see the potential of having a shared universe comic book movie franchise where ANYTHING can happen.

Marvel, DC, guess what... the hero is never in any real danger. The set-up, villain, and conclusion (the hero escapes) are known before you buy your ticket.

Valiant doesn't have to do that.

Why are Walking Dead and Game of Thrones popular? People you care about actually die.

The Dirt Gang · Post by **The Dirt Gang** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:56:17 pm

greg wrote: Why are Walking Dead and Game of Thrones popular? People you care about actually die.

Interesting point. Stakes are definitely higher in these two shows. Although, I think TV has more freedom than movies which is why this is perhaps the greatest period in television history. American TV is far out doing American movies right now.

I think the big difference is that a TV show can kill off important characters because they will be following up with another show the following week. Because of the time between the release of movies in a franchise, I think studios are less likely to kill off key characters because they want that recognizable character to draw people in years later when the sequel is released. I'd love to see a studio treat a movie franchise like the shows you mentioned, however, I think studios are quite conservative and unfortunately don't take many risks. I keep hoping for a 70's like Hollywood revival but haven't seen it yet.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:04:24 pm

Will dino be making cameos in every VEI movie?

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:19:22 pm

H-E-Double Hockey Sticks Yeah!

This was one of the secrets that Atom! told me about at the Supercon.

Definitely a little shocking that this might be the first movie that Valiant introduces to the wider world ... but it makes some sense. Its off-beat, its different, its got humor, its got a bromance vibe thats popular these days ... and it could probably be done really well with a limited budget.

The Dirt Gang · Post by **The Dirt Gang** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:34:21 pm

bygranddesign wrote: This was one of the secrets that Atom! told me about at the Supercon.

This was just whispers from a well placed source until you came in here and basically confirmed it! Now we've got it coming straight from the mouth of VEI.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:46:37 pm

Sweeet!!

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:56:11 pm

I wonder why this leaked before sdcc?

When I say leaked ~ usually it to inside info given away to test the waters.

I also wonder if this is the news at sdcc ( but more official at sdcc).

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:22:26 pm

iggy101us wrote:

Will dino be making cameos in every VEI movie?

No... because Dino has been important to VEI in the last 40 years.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:24:42 pm

Phantom wrote:I wonder why this leaked before sdcc?

When I say leaked ~ usually it to inside info given away to test the waters.

I also wonder if this is the news at sdcc ( but more official at sdcc).

Last year, VEI made most of their news known prior to SDCC so as not to have it all lost in the avalanche of news coming out of there from the Big 2, Image, etc. a pretty smart strategy if you ask me.

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:27:06 pm

BugsySig wrote:Last year, VEI made most of their news known prior to SDCC so as not to have it all lost in the avalanche of news coming out of there from the Big 2, Image, etc. a pretty smart strategy if you ask me.

Agreed. Until they make $200million announcements... it's best not to try to make a little noise over that boom.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:32:33 pm

cool

makes sense now

ilzuccone · Post by **ilzuccone** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:13:56 pm

HMMMmm wouldn't have guessed it would be A and A but makes sense. lots of room for comedy. don't need to many crazy super hero costumes (that can really make or break a movie). i can see this being in the same vain as 21 jump street (the first one) kick-*SQUEE* etc etc.

VEI Reborn · Post by **VEI Reborn** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:49:28 pm

Sounds like an awesome time and HUGE news for VEI.

With that said, I am mostly pumped about seeing Gilad on the big screen!

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:52:57 pm

The Dirt Gang wrote:
bygranddesign wrote: This was one of the secrets that Atom! told me about at the Supercon.
This was just whispers from a well placed source until you came in here and basically confirmed it! Now we've got it coming straight from the mouth of VEI.

bygranddesign is the "VERY reliable source" mentioned in the article.

RogueJedi74 · Post by **RogueJedi74** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:17:42 pm

iggy101us wrote:

Will dino be making cameos in every VEI movie?

It would be better than Stan Lee

FormerReader · Post by **FormerReader** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:43:36 pm

greg wrote:
iggy101us wrote:

Will dino be making cameos in every VEI movie?
No... because Dino has been important to VEI in the last 40 years.

Ouch.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:50:13 pm

BugsySig wrote:
Captain Craig wrote:Would be nice to know
A) Which studio allegedly has the script done and is looking to produce the A&A film
B) Does said studio also have Shadowman & Bloodshot? If not then talking of an interconnected film universe is moot.

Conglomerates are the way to go, it seems, in order to sustain and cross promote media of this type.
DC/Warners
Marvel/Disney

If VEI could find a parent studio that would be largely hands off while using the rich library of characters then an interconnected film universe makes sense.

NBC/Universal? If they owned VEI maybe that takes the heat off monthly sells somewhat while also allowing for expansion of the IPs via multiple methods. TV shows, cartoons and movies of course.
No one is going to be hands off with an unknown brand, unfortunately. And an interconnected movie universe was likely never going to happen.

It took DC 35 years to start an interconnected universe and no way can VALIANT create their own studio a la Marvel at this point.

I would just be happy with the amazing growth and visibility any movie would have for the brand.

I think that with the success of joined (Marvel) Universe really being under the Disney & FOX with X-Men (I'm not counting Sony & Spiderman) it makes a ton of sense to have ajoining films in some way. It's in the studios best interest in addition to the Comic company. For some reason Warner Brothers has had real issues getting one going for the DC Universe and will be miles behind (hell they already are behind)

I'm just saying don't put it past VEI to have thought of this..

-Brian

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:51:09 pm

BugsySig wrote:
Phantom wrote:I wonder why this leaked before sdcc?

When I say leaked ~ usually it to inside info given away to test the waters.

I also wonder if this is the news at sdcc ( but more official at sdcc).
Last year, VEI made most of their news known prior to SDCC so as not to have it all lost in the avalanche of news coming out of there from the Big 2, Image, etc. a pretty smart strategy if you ask me.

QFT

-Brian

Bone-A-Fach-ee · Post by **Bone-A-Fach-ee** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:01:16 pm

FLIP YEAH! So pumped about this one! Will make for an incredible movie.
I don't think this will be a big announcement now at SDCC, since all us die-hards now know about it. I hope they still have something shocking to reveal there!

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