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Awesome news, although I've never heard of Drive Through Comics.

Wonder if this will eventually lead to the Comixology issues being DRM-free?
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lorddunlow wrote:Awesome news, although I've never heard of Drive Through Comics.
I checked out the site. Pretty standard. I suspect this should lead to DRM free back ups on Comixology shortly.

Also no reason why they shouldn't offer it themselves eventually through their own website like Image.
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lorddunlow wrote:Awesome news, although I've never heard of Drive Through Comics.
I checked out the site. Pretty standard. I suspect this should lead to DRM free back ups on Comixology shortly.

Also no reason why they shouldn't offer it themselves eventually through their own website like Image.
:lol: You pretty much added what I did while I was editing my post.

I need to check out the site. .cbz included or just .pdf?
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Dino replied to my Tweet of enthusiasm about this news with "Just the start too!"

So, I'd say DRM-free at Comixology is not far behind. Probably have a timed exclusive period with Drive Through (which is PDF only - ugh).

Funny thing, is I've gone from despising Comixology to being quite fond of their service now that they don't require DRM. They put the ball in the publisher's court.
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I would suspect DRM free on Comixology is coming. Drive Thru seems cool but I'm kind of stuck on Comixology right now. Despite its problems, I still think it's the best solution. Good on them for bringing other guys on board, and I agree with the above, take a page from Image and just sell direct from the site as well.

PDF only is a start at least.
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Good news for the fans! :clap:

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DRM-anything is nothing more than a tail-pipe up the backside of the consumer. I think VEI should have had an online store at the outset where readers could buy DRM-free issues at a discount. $1.50 to MAYBE 2 bucks an issue. It's not like it's a physical product that will increase in value. One digital file on a server, including bandwidth costs. :?

Good news and a long time coming. Very good job that VEI is leading the path towards a logical, digital future. :thumb:

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david_albuq wrote:DRM-anything is nothing more than a tail-pipe up the backside of the consumer. I think VEI should have had an online store at the outset where readers could buy DRM-free issues at a discount. $1.50 to MAYBE 2 bucks an issue. It's not like it's a physical product that will increase in value. One digital file on a server, including bandwidth costs. :?

Good news and a long time coming. Very good job that VEI is leading the path towards a logical, digital future. :thumb:
Because they, and other publishers, believe, right or wrong, that offering DRM Free at a discount will hurt paper sales and therefore the bottom line. I can't speak to whether it would or would not.
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BugsySig wrote:
david_albuq wrote:DRM-anything is nothing more than a tail-pipe up the backside of the consumer. I think VEI should have had an online store at the outset where readers could buy DRM-free issues at a discount. $1.50 to MAYBE 2 bucks an issue. It's not like it's a physical product that will increase in value. One digital file on a server, including bandwidth costs. :?

Good news and a long time coming. Very good job that VEI is leading the path towards a logical, digital future. :thumb:
Because they, and other publishers, believe, right or wrong, that offering DRM Free at a discount will hurt paper sales and therefore the bottom line. I can't speak to whether it would or would not.
Not that I entirely agree with paying the same price for a digital copy as a physical one, but there are different costs associated with it that aren't part of printing costs - I would imagine the difference in that portion of the overall cost to produce a comic book is relatively negligible.

Drive Thru is a fairly big RPG download site (for traditional rpg pdf's, not video games), I think that's a great spot to start out with for Valiant in terms of the Drive Thru comic branch. :thumb:
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So.... what happens to their relationship with Comixology. :hm: I don't want cut off from all the comics in my comixology library. :o

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AnthonyF wrote:So.... what happens to their relationship with Comixology. :hm: I don't want cut off from all the comics in my comixology library. :o

All this stuff is happening (MadeFire, DriveThru, etc.) because their exclusivity agreement with Comixology has expired. This shouldn't affect Comixology availability at all. It will likely lead to DRM-free with Comixology and possibly availability through other venues.

I would say the DRM-free files with DriveThru are also now under an exclusivity agreement that would likely benefit DriveThru more than VEI (increased visibility of a company that I'm pretty sure no one - except RPG players - knows about).
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I doubt Valiant went exclusive, but maybe Drive Thru got first rights for a while, but there are no more exclusives out there. I think publishers learned their lesson already, and need as much exposure on as many different platforms as possible. A move like this will help other publishers stray from Comixlogy as well, and help provide more competition in the marketplace, and hopefully a better overall reading experience.

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Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:I doubt Valiant went exclusive, but maybe Drive Thru got first rights for a while, but there are no more exclusives out there. I think publishers learned their lesson already, and need as much exposure on as many different platforms as possible. A move like this will help other publishers stray from Comixlogy as well, and help provide more competition in the marketplace, and hopefully a better overall reading experience.
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I love my physical books, but could see why I'd like digital comics as well. If there was some kind of bundle agreement I might by both, but I can't justify it right now with current prices.

DRM free Valiant titles is a step closer to getting me to try out digital comics. Heck, pretty much everything I read is Valiant or Image (with the rare Marvel title). Valiant and Image are both DRM free now so maybe that's a big hint to try out digital comics.

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Intrepidxc wrote:I love my physical books, but could see why I'd like digital comics as well. If there was some kind of bundle agreement I might by both, but I can't justify it right now with current prices.

DRM free Valiant titles is a step closer to getting me to try out digital comics. Heck, pretty much everything I read is Valiant or Image (with the rare Marvel title). Valiant and Image are both DRM free now so maybe that's a big hint to try out digital comics.
Or you could try this with no risk or cost (unless you're an iOS guy).
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lorddunlow wrote:
Intrepidxc wrote:I love my physical books, but could see why I'd like digital comics as well. If there was some kind of bundle agreement I might by both, but I can't justify it right now with current prices.

DRM free Valiant titles is a step closer to getting me to try out digital comics. Heck, pretty much everything I read is Valiant or Image (with the rare Marvel title). Valiant and Image are both DRM free now so maybe that's a big hint to try out digital comics.
Or you could try this with no risk or cost (unless you're an iOS guy).
Sadly, I am an iOS guy.

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Intrepidxc wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
Intrepidxc wrote:I love my physical books, but could see why I'd like digital comics as well. If there was some kind of bundle agreement I might by both, but I can't justify it right now with current prices.

DRM free Valiant titles is a step closer to getting me to try out digital comics. Heck, pretty much everything I read is Valiant or Image (with the rare Marvel title). Valiant and Image are both DRM free now so maybe that's a big hint to try out digital comics.
Or you could try this with no risk or cost (unless you're an iOS guy).
Sadly, I am an iOS guy.
Then it is just the minimal cost of the app.
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