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BRAINSTORMING SESSION! Valiant unresolved storylines...

Post by greg »

Since we're the biggest Valiant fans on the planet (right? :thumb: ), I figured we could start a topic where we keep a handy list of unresolved storylines in case anyone who creates Valiant stories would like inspiration from continuity rather than auxiliary.
(Continuity rather than auxiliary? :hm: Old places rather than new faces? :hm: Seems like it should rhyme... ummm... History instead of mystery? Actual use instead of random muse? Foundation before permutation?) :?

But I digress...

Wait! That's it... Valiant Progress before Valiant Digress! :P


(POTENTIALLY) UNRESOLVED VALIANT STORYLINES
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- Andromeda (is she secretly Maxine from Hallmark?)

- Bleeding Monk (there should be a trail of blood, at least)

- Bloodshot and Magic's daughter (is she just in 4th grade somewhere now?)

- Darpan (is he ever going to pan out? Get it? Pan out? That's gold, Jerry, gold.)

- Divinity (you can only play minesweeper for a decade before you gotta get some fresh air)

- Face of Bo (is he Jack Harknevermind... wrong fandom.)

- Mary Maria (how YOU doin'?)

- Mitu and Xaran (see Xaran and Mitu)

- Pete Stanchek (just running around turning on switches but never paying the electricity bill?)

- Pete's Dad (who's paying for the electricity over there while he's in a coma?)

- Savage (will Colonel Pickering teach him proper diction so he can work in a flower shop?)

- Saxophone (will Jack - or his Loa - remember how to play it?)

- Sentient cities which cooperated to create the Faraway (when/why?)

- Something about THE VALIANT UNIVERSE'S GREATEST THREAT (seems important)

- Timewalker (Ivar/Neela, somebody show up once in a while!)

- Xaran and Mitu (see Mitu and Xaran)

Etc.

(List to be edited as things are suggested or removed because we all forgot it was resolved.) :lol:

Now presented in technicolor alphabetical order!

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What about

Immortal Enemy, will EW finally defeat him? How can he?

Red Brigade, seems to me that they will implode, making two good guys, and two bad guys

-- Red Legend, what is the secret revolving around her ability to stay in the current universe when so much of the Stallinverse disappeared?
-- Pioneer, pretty certain she just went back to her island and lived life alone, but there could be story there (or a re-introduction)
-- Baba Yaga, who's she haunting now? She's kind of someone that would be neutral, but play with people's minds.
-- Kostiy, last seen trying to kill Ninjak and company. She has moved over to the dark side, a place that truly fits for her

Where is Alpha, and why hasn't he attempted to take over portions of Europe/World? Are we waiting for LADOTH to end? He would be a fantastic fit here as a replacement bad guy psyot.
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This is a great idea! :clap:

-- Where is GN-GR?

-- Where's Jaunty? (From 2012 - 2016 (?) GN-GR and Jaunty appeared on every Valiant promo poster. Now, nothing.)

-- Where are the Zygos twins?

-- Will we ever seen more of Shadowoman from 4002?

-- Will we ever see or learn any more about the French vampire Shadowoman from Unit-Y?

-- What's next for Deathmate and the Bloodshot Squad?

-- What's next for Rampage and the Scarred Man?

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This thread is the best one in a long time.

Momo has been on my mind since she fell.

What was the use of all the knowledge Aric got.

What about the vine guy who helped Aric before the vine forne arrived.
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There were a bunch of psiots that were released from Project Rising Spirit before the first Harbinger Wars. We know the fates of many of the main characters. Aren't there still a bunch that we haven't seen since then?
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kjjohanson wrote:There were a bunch of psiots that were released from Project Rising Spirit before the first Harbinger Wars. We know the fates of many of the main characters. Aren't there still a bunch that we haven't seen since then?
And what happened to the ones that jumped into the portal at the end of Harbinger Wars? Still lost to the Warp...

And what's Charlie Palmer up to these days?

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I am really far behind on the current universe, but reading all these hanging plot lines is daunting. Were there this many plot lines left hanging in the original universe?

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1st Among Equals wrote:I am really far behind on the current universe, but reading all these hanging plot lines is daunting. Were there this many plot lines left hanging in the original universe?
No. Matt Kindt didn't write for the original Valiant.

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kinggirlfriend wrote:
1st Among Equals wrote:I am really far behind on the current universe, but reading all these hanging plot lines is daunting. Were there this many plot lines left hanging in the original universe?
No. Matt Kindt didn't write for the original Valiant.
:funnypost:
Be fair to the guy though, he has written some great stuff :clap:


Also, unresolved plot lines can be a blessing in a way too, as they provide opportunity for exploration down the line in new comics. We've now seen this with Unity -> Forgotten Queen for example (sure, not the plot line I'd have chosen to pick up, but still, it illustrates my point). There could always be more to come.
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Shadowman99 wrote:
kinggirlfriend wrote:
1st Among Equals wrote:I am really far behind on the current universe, but reading all these hanging plot lines is daunting. Were there this many plot lines left hanging in the original universe?
No. Matt Kindt didn't write for the original Valiant.
:funnypost:
Be fair to the guy though, he has written some great stuff :clap:


Also, unresolved plot lines can be a blessing in a way too, as they provide opportunity for exploration down the line in new comics. We've now seen this with Unity -> Forgotten Queen for example (sure, not the plot line I'd have chosen to pick up, but still, it illustrates my point). There could always be more to come.
I think it's intentional. Kindt is great at world-building. He introduces characters that have their place in the story at hand, but always leaves more explore. I don't necessarily see that as anything that's "unresolved" rather than an opportunity for more exploration.
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I'm also not very up-to-date and could just be missing something, but what about Rokus origin story?

I know, it's the same problem with Matt Kindt.... I love his writing, some of the best stories I've seen till now, but you always feel like there is something missing.
(and I usually feel it's my fault, cause I got the reading order wrong or something)

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KXXX wrote:Alexander Dorian
YES! All the Vine stuff actually has been completely dropped! They affected almost every book, now nothin'!

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Got one! In classic Valiant Archer Armstrong 15 the duo breaks into an art museum heavily guarded by some unaccountably high-end soldiers...any idea who they were, and why? Maybe I need to keep reading.

Oh and that's a very good inclusion for Andromeda. You're referring to Armstrong's wife in the classic run correct? Is she even in the newer runs?

Mary Maria is another great inclusion in this list.
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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Oxmyx wrote:Mary Maria is another great inclusion in this list.
Oh yeah, she just faded away to *SQUEE*-knows where right? I'd forgotten all about her :lol:
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Quartz and the robot chick getting captured by GATE in Armour Hunters... Never to be seen again (yet).

Rotwak?
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Armorines bad or good or gone for good?
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Savage in the savage land?
Armstrong's bar?
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kinggirlfriend wrote:
KXXX wrote:Alexander Dorian
YES! All the Vine stuff actually has been completely dropped! They affected almost every book, now nothin'!
Is INCURSION not about the Vine? I had just assumed it was. I need to go look it up. Plus a question...have Archer and Armstrong met the Vine? I know the Vine was mentioned a few times as part of The Sect but I don't recall anything more
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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Oxmyx wrote:
kinggirlfriend wrote:
KXXX wrote:Alexander Dorian
YES! All the Vine stuff actually has been completely dropped! They affected almost every book, now nothin'!
Is INCURSION not about the Vine? I had just assumed it was.
Nope. Not at all.

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Jarhara wrote:I'm also not very up-to-date and could just be missing something, but what about Rokus origin story?

I know, it's the same problem with Matt Kindt.... I love his writing, some of the best stories I've seen till now, but you always feel like there is something missing.
(and I usually feel it's my fault, cause I got the reading order wrong or something)
Not in case of Roku though. Her origin is told throughout Matt Kindt's Ninjak series.
At first in the backup stories and later in the main stories.
It's just not in one place, e.g. a zero issue.

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It seems a shame to me that Forgotten Queen introduced the idea of Warmonger as the Immortal Bros' [previously totally unmentioned] sister. Seems to me that editorial could have gone back to the old 'Xaran' plotline from the original EW series and passed Warmonger off as that character instead.

I partly wonder if that's what they intended to do, only made a slight boo-boo with the details, mistaking Xaran for being EW's sister rather than daughter.

Would have tied that plot point up nicely there, rather than introducing a totally new character to the family from the left field. Kinda reminds of of when TV sitcoms are on their dying legs and suddenly a 'kid brother' is introduced into the family or the like (Yes, I am looking at you Fresh Prince...) in a weak attempt to rejuvenate a bit of viewer interest.
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What about the Armorines?

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Based on a recent bit of convo with Sunlight on Snow, we need to add (PRS use of) UFO tech and Faraway tech and Little Grey Men to the list
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?


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