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I’m rereading all VEI titles starting this month. So far, all the Bloodshot titles, Britannia, Dead Drop, rafand moving on to Rai (one of my faves - third read). Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad. I’m not saying it’s my favorite, by far, but it’s not all that terrible. Sure, there are holes, the pacing is terrible, the characters not conforming to their actual selves, etc.

OK, maybe it wasn’t great.

The coloring was on point though. Truly.

A guy at a store once asked ,e what I though of Dead Drop. He must have seen the Valiant titles I was pulling. He was going to buy the 4 issues in a set, said he loved Valiant, but was new to it. This was a few years ago. I told him that it was the title to skip, if you had to choose one. I’d probably give a different answer today.

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Since the summer of 2012, there’s been a few books/titles that I’ve skipped because it just didn’t interest me from the gate. Dead Drop is one of them, I’ve never looked back!! :?
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I bought Dead Drop a while ago when there was a sale at my local comics store. I have been reading up to it in the timeline. I'm looking forward to it, despite all the negativity
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My understanding regarding Dead Drop (I don't remember the source on this, so it may not be entirely accurate) was that Ales Kot was pitching something for Valiant, and Warren Simons wasn't sure if he was a good fit, so he gave him a mini to write. And he hasn't written anything for Valiant since.
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Dead Drop was the beginning of the end for me. I fell out of regular reading shortly thereafter. It was godawful and I like almost everything.

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lorddunlow wrote:Dead Drop was the beginning of the end for me. I fell out of regular reading shortly thereafter. It was godawful and I like almost everything.

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One of the most utterly amateurish projects from VEI. Thing was completely off the mark, characters were like non-official versions of them, one cool moment in issue 3 (robot guy) and then undone in the last.
A waste of time and talent (Warren could have gone with something way better because this was so lame), maybe Ales Kot can write good comics, I don't know and prob never will because this one sucked in a rather spetacular way and when the author goes and says something really moronic like people are angry because he was trying to give regular women the main part in superhero comics... :?
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nycjadie wrote:I’m rereading all VEI titles starting this month. So far, all the Bloodshot titles, Britannia, Dead Drop, rafand moving on to Rai (one of my faves - third read). Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad. I’m not saying it’s my favorite, by far, but it’s not all that terrible. Sure, there are holes, the pacing is terrible, the characters not conforming to their actual selves, etc.

OK, maybe it wasn’t great.

The coloring was on point though. Truly.

A guy at a store once asked ,e what I though of Dead Drop. He must have seen the Valiant titles I was pulling. He was going to buy the 4 issues in a set, said he loved Valiant, but was new to it. This was a few years ago. I told him that it was the title to skip, if you had to choose one. I’d probably give a different answer today.
Name 3 VEI books that are worse? I’ll give you Bloodshot Rising Spirit as one of your 3 :P

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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
nycjadie wrote:I’m rereading all VEI titles starting this month. So far, all the Bloodshot titles, Britannia, Dead Drop, rafand moving on to Rai (one of my faves - third read). Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad. I’m not saying it’s my favorite, by far, but it’s not all that terrible. Sure, there are holes, the pacing is terrible, the characters not conforming to their actual selves, etc.

OK, maybe it wasn’t great.

The coloring was on point though. Truly.

A guy at a store once asked ,e what I though of Dead Drop. He must have seen the Valiant titles I was pulling. He was going to buy the 4 issues in a set, said he loved Valiant, but was new to it. This was a few years ago. I told him that it was the title to skip, if you had to choose one. I’d probably give a different answer today.
Name 3 VEI books that are worse? I’ll give you Bloodshot Rising Spirit as one of your 3 :P
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nycjadie wrote:
Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
nycjadie wrote:I’m rereading all VEI titles starting this month. So far, all the Bloodshot titles, Britannia, Dead Drop, rafand moving on to Rai (one of my faves - third read). Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad. I’m not saying it’s my favorite, by far, but it’s not all that terrible. Sure, there are holes, the pacing is terrible, the characters not conforming to their actual selves, etc.

OK, maybe it wasn’t great.

The coloring was on point though. Truly.

A guy at a store once asked ,e what I though of Dead Drop. He must have seen the Valiant titles I was pulling. He was going to buy the 4 issues in a set, said he loved Valiant, but was new to it. This was a few years ago. I told him that it was the title to skip, if you had to choose one. I’d probably give a different answer today.
Name 3 VEI books that are worse? I’ll give you Bloodshot Rising Spirit as one of your 3 :P
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Q2? Quantum and Woody?

Those books weren’t great but better than Dead Drop!

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Dead Drop was a pretty low point for VEI story and character wise, but had good art at least...I thought it did a good job with Beta Max and I wouldn’t mind seeing the character again (maybe with the 2 kids from the story?)...He could work in Q&W obviously and maybe A&A, Timewalker or Faith if any of those ever returned, the more light hearted comedy type books.
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BugsySig wrote:Dead Drop was a pretty low point for VEI story and character wise, but had good art at least...I thought it did a good job with Beta Max and I wouldn’t mind seeing the character again (maybe with the 2 kids from the story?)...He could work in Q&W obviously and maybe A&A, Timewalker or Faith if any of those ever returned, the more light hearted comedy type books.
Wow, add FVL as the writer to that and you’ve just described the worst book imaginable :lol: :kidaround:

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ShadowTuga wrote:One of the most utterly amateurish projects from VEI. Thing was completely off the mark, characters were like non-official versions of them, one cool moment in issue 3 (robot guy) and then undone in the last.
A waste of time and talent (Warren could have gone with something way better because this was so lame), maybe Ales Kot can write good comics, I don't know and prob never will because this one sucked in a rather spetacular way and when the author goes and says something really moronic like people are angry because he was trying to give regular women the main part in superhero comics... :?
That's why Cejudo is there front and center and X-O and Archer are saturday morning morons.
Read Days of Hate. Ales Kot can definitely write good stories.

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nycjadie wrote:
Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
nycjadie wrote:I’m rereading all VEI titles starting this month. So far, all the Bloodshot titles, Britannia, Dead Drop, rafand moving on to Rai (one of my faves - third read). Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad. I’m not saying it’s my favorite, by far, but it’s not all that terrible. Sure, there are holes, the pacing is terrible, the characters not conforming to their actual selves, etc.

OK, maybe it wasn’t great.

The coloring was on point though. Truly.

A guy at a store once asked ,e what I though of Dead Drop. He must have seen the Valiant titles I was pulling. He was going to buy the 4 issues in a set, said he loved Valiant, but was new to it. This was a few years ago. I told him that it was the title to skip, if you had to choose one. I’d probably give a different answer today.
Name 3 VEI books that are worse? I’ll give you Bloodshot Rising Spirit as one of your 3 :P
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Q2 would have been much better if the art matched Priest's story. Priest wrote an essay on how much trouble he had with Bright doing his own thing.

I'd add the first arc of A&A was pretty bad.

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4001 AD Shadowman was worse. Close call, but worse.

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Jrosen wrote:
nycjadie wrote:
Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
nycjadie wrote:I’m rereading all VEI titles starting this month. So far, all the Bloodshot titles, Britannia, Dead Drop, rafand moving on to Rai (one of my faves - third read). Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad. I’m not saying it’s my favorite, by far, but it’s not all that terrible. Sure, there are holes, the pacing is terrible, the characters not conforming to their actual selves, etc.

OK, maybe it wasn’t great.

The coloring was on point though. Truly.

A guy at a store once asked ,e what I though of Dead Drop. He must have seen the Valiant titles I was pulling. He was going to buy the 4 issues in a set, said he loved Valiant, but was new to it. This was a few years ago. I told him that it was the title to skip, if you had to choose one. I’d probably give a different answer today.
Name 3 VEI books that are worse? I’ll give you Bloodshot Rising Spirit as one of your 3 :P
Q2
Faith V2
Q2 would have been much better if the art matched Priest's story. Priest wrote an essay on how much trouble he had with Bright doing his own thing.

I'd add the first arc of A&A was pretty bad.
What did the title dead drop have to do with the comic series?Dead drop was the worst at the time,but the storyline for Q2 was worst than the art to me.I didn't know he wrote an essay.And i don't know why this was made.https://www.amazon.com/KLANG-Writers-Co ... 014RP35KU/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:Dead Drop was a pretty low point for VEI story and character wise, but had good art at least...I thought it did a good job with Beta Max and I wouldn’t mind seeing the character again (maybe with the 2 kids from the story?)...He could work in Q&W obviously and maybe A&A, Timewalker or Faith if any of those ever returned, the more light hearted comedy type books.
Wow, add FVL as the writer to that and you’ve just described the worst book imaginable :lol: :kidaround:
I know people haven’t liked his recent VALIANT offerings (I haven’t read them as I haven’t read anything VEI since around XO #25), but I loved his A&A and Ivar, Timewalker, and was a fan of his Marvel work before that. So FVL writing Beta-Max wouldn’t bother me one bit. :tongue:
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Its not that bad because of the garbage that has come since.
Youve been de sencified to what bad is hell scooby doo and tha gang are looking good to me.
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Tony_H wrote:4001 AD Shadowman was worse. Close call, but worse.
Oh yeah, the very subtle ‘anti-Trump but the characters name wasn’t Trump so you can’t prove anything issue’ ! That was bad, had erased that from my memory...until now!

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nonplayer wrote:Its not that bad because of the garbage that has come since.
Youve been de sencified to what bad is hell scooby doo and tha gang are looking good to me.
:lol: I knew somebody that only read that in 2004,i bet thats all he reads still.
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The completist in me bought the TPB and I have never looked back after that. facepalm

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nycjadie wrote:Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad.
Cause now you have all the DMG stuff lowering your expectations.


Or, because, it wasn't as utterly god-awful as it was made out to be during its release. Dumb. Out-of-character. Pointless. But not necessary The Worst Thing Ever.
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SwiftMann wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Honestly, I don’t think Dead Drop is all that bad.
Cause now you have all the DMG stuff lowering your expectations.
Yup well said
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