Random Thought ... Spiderman VS. Bloodshot? Why Not?

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Random Thought ... Spiderman VS. Bloodshot? Why Not?

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With Sony breaking ties with Disney -- Does this open the door for the possibility of a Spiderman - Bloodshot/Valiant Universe crossover
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This feels like a win-win for Sony if they want to make this work without Disney

1) Sony wants a superhero universe. Spiderman (some alternate version as established by Spider-verse) would give the Valiant universe of Characters including Bloodshot a huge boost in credibility with Movie goers

2) The Valiant Universe would give Spiderman a playground of characters and villains that would add a boost of excitement and possibilities

Imagine..an end credit scene in Bloodshot showing PRS's newest combat unit to take down Bloodhot - Chainsaw led by Venom! :o

Eventually Spiderman VS. Bloodshot Vs. Venom

How much Buzz would that create?

I'm old school.

I know in a perfect world we would want our favorite characters to be faithfully translated to the big screen.

But mixing in Spiderman to get the train rolling would make a lot of sense

Once the train is rolling and moving full speed -- the dreams of Harbinger Wars, big budget X-O / Shadowman, and the ultimate dream -- Unity-type epic crossover becomes a real possibility.
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Not going to happen. While I've never seen any indication of it, I think that part of any licensing deal would be a prohibition of unauthorized crossovers. At the very least on one of those sides.
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Let's look at it this way. The Brood was basically a Marvel takeoff on Aliens. Since Fox has the rights to both of those for quite a while, a Fox-produced X-Men / Aliens movie would have been perfect and not really detached from X-Men canon, yet we never saw it. Why? There must be some restrictions on how much studios can do with the properties.
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kjjohanson wrote:Let's look at it this way. The Brood was basically a Marvel takeoff on Aliens. Since Fox has the rights to both of those for quite a while, a Fox-produced X-Men / Aliens movie would have been perfect and not really detached from X-Men canon, yet we never saw it. Why? There must be some restrictions on how much studios can do with the properties.
Listen. If Freddy vs Jason and Alien vs Predator could happen, I'm never saying never.

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lorddunlow wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:Let's look at it this way. The Brood was basically a Marvel takeoff on Aliens. Since Fox has the rights to both of those for quite a while, a Fox-produced X-Men / Aliens movie would have been perfect and not really detached from X-Men canon, yet we never saw it. Why? There must be some restrictions on how much studios can do with the properties.
Listen. If Freddy vs Jason and Alien vs Predator could happen, I'm never saying never.

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kjjohanson wrote:Let's look at it this way. The Brood was basically a Marvel takeoff on Aliens. Since Fox has the rights to both of those for quite a while, a Fox-produced X-Men / Aliens movie would have been perfect and not really detached from X-Men canon, yet we never saw it. Why? There must be some restrictions on how much studios can do with the properties.
Dammit, man - now you've got me wishing there had been an XMen film with The Brood as the main enemy! :!:

You make a compelling argument for how that would have worked well with both properties under the same roof, even though they didn't do it.
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grendeljd wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:Let's look at it this way. The Brood was basically a Marvel takeoff on Aliens. Since Fox has the rights to both of those for quite a while, a Fox-produced X-Men / Aliens movie would have been perfect and not really detached from X-Men canon, yet we never saw it. Why? There must be some restrictions on how much studios can do with the properties.
Dammit, man - now you've got me wishing there had been an XMen film with The Brood as the main enemy! :!:

You make a compelling argument for how that would have worked well with both properties under the same roof, even though they didn't do it.
Hey, there's no reason that they can't make that *now* I suppose. I think Disney wholly owns both properties, not just a license.
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Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
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Shadowman99 wrote:Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
Umm...too late bro
At least for VH1
Magnus v Predator
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Magnus and Nexus
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Curious...I am not aware of any crossovers is VEI ...yet... Am I aware correctly?
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Shadowman99 wrote:Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
I think a Shadowman/Rivers of London crossover could be really interesting.
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Oxmyx wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
Umm...too late bro
At least for VH1
Magnus v Predator
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Curious...I am not aware of any crossovers is VEI ...yet... Am I aware correctly?
Yeah... So, I basically meant the current VU. I was aware of all the old crossovers, but why I'd be referring to them whilst using the present tense I can't possibly imagine :|
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Oxmyx wrote: ...Magnus v Predator...
I think that was my favorite Magnus story outside unity. It was also one of my favorite Predator comics as well. Solid story by Ostrander and great art by Lee Weeks.
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Shadowman99 wrote:
Oxmyx wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
Umm...too late bro
At least for VH1
Magnus v Predator
Deathmate et al
Magnus and Nexus
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Curious...I am not aware of any crossovers is VEI ...yet... Am I aware correctly?
Yeah... So, I basically meant the current VU. I was aware of all the old crossovers, but why I'd be referring to them whilst using the present tense I can't possibly imagine :|
You did say EVER :-P
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SJS4 wrote:
Oxmyx wrote: ...Magnus v Predator...
I think that was my favorite Magnus story outside unity. It was also one of my favorite Predator comics as well. Solid story by Ostrander and great art by Lee Weeks.
I own both issues but hadn't yet gotten around to reading them. So thanks now I'm really looking forward to them
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Shadowman99 wrote:
Oxmyx wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
Umm...too late bro
At least for VH1
Magnus v Predator
Deathmate et al
Magnus and Nexus
Heavy Metal (XO and Ironman)

Curious...I am not aware of any crossovers is VEI ...yet... Am I aware correctly?
Yeah... So, I basically meant the current VU. I was aware of all the old crossovers, but why I'd be referring to them whilst using the present tense I can't possibly imagine :|
I would categorize a crossover as any story in which the publisher doesn't own the rights to publish all of the characters used in the story (but has temporary permission to do so). In that sense, Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd was a crossover, even if the latter aren't normally comic characters.
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kjjohanson wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:
Oxmyx wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:Please keep the VU from ever crossing over with any other universe. Ever.
Umm...too late bro
At least for VH1
Magnus v Predator
Deathmate et al
Magnus and Nexus
Heavy Metal (XO and Ironman)

Curious...I am not aware of any crossovers is VEI ...yet... Am I aware correctly?
Yeah... So, I basically meant the current VU. I was aware of all the old crossovers, but why I'd be referring to them whilst using the present tense I can't possibly imagine :|
I would categorize a crossover as any story in which the publisher doesn't own the rights to publish all of the characters used in the story (but has temporary permission to do so). In that sense, Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd was a crossover, even if the latter aren't normally comic characters.
I do wonder how that issue came about originally, whose idea it was and such.
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