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X-O Manowar #1 by Dennis Hallum and Emilio Laiso
Doctor Tomorrow #2 (of 5)
Bloodshot #7
Quantum & Woody #3 (of 4, now a mini-series, apparently)
The Visitor #4 (of 6)
Rai #5

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X-O is the only one I’m mildly interested in. I’m not jumping ship, but quality is not great.

I saw a documentary on Chris Claremont yesterday, who made X-Men the most popular comic franchise of the day. He said what readers want are characters and character development. He had numerous plot points that wouldn’t play out for years. Dinesh and Warren and company understood this. I don’t think current editorial does, or they are constrained. You can’t do that with mini-series and 2nd and 3rd tier characters popping up and taking the flagship titles off course.

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TheFerg714 wrote:Quantum & Woody #3 (of 4, now a mini-series, apparently)

Thoughts?
If this is not a mistake (and it looks like it's not) they're really starting to *SQUEE* me off now, too.

This is very disappointing.

WTF!

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Am I the only one that's actually happy and optimistic about these solicitations? We've now got three tentpole ongoings going on at the same time, The Visitor (which seemed to be well received), Dr. Tomorrow (which, at the very least, looks unique), and Q&W (which has a legit creative team imo).
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TheFerg714 wrote:Quantum & Woody #3 (of 4, now a mini-series, apparently)

Thoughts?
If this is not a mistake (and it looks like it's not) they're really starting to *SQUEE* me off now, too.

This is very disappointing.

WTF!
According to some fans on Facebook, it was apparently always solicited as a mini-series, from the beginning, in Diamond's Previews. Although this month it switched from 5 issues to 4. Evidently the Newsarama solicitations were just wrong. :?
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TheFerg714 wrote:Am I the only one that's actually happy and optimistic about these solicitations? We've now got three tentpole ongoings going on at the same time, The Visitor (which seemed to be well received), Dr. Tomorrow (which, at the very least, looks unique), and Q&W (which has a legit creative team imo).

X-O Manowar #1 by Dennis Hallum and Emilio Laiso
Doctor Tomorrow #2 (of 5)
Bloodshot #7
Quantum & Woody #3 (of 4, now a mini-series, apparently)
The Visitor #4 (of 6)
Rai #5
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TheFerg714 wrote:Quantum & Woody #3 (of 4, now a mini-series, apparently)

Thoughts?
If this is not a mistake (and it looks like it's not) they're really starting to *SQUEE* me off now, too.

This is very disappointing.

WTF!
According to some fans on Facebook, it was apparently always solicited as a mini-series, from the beginning, in Diamond's Previews. Although this month it switched from 5 issues to 4. Evidently the Newsarama solicitations were just wrong. :?
Nope, you're not alone on this one :high-five:

Looks a good line up to me, feels like a return to 2014 :D XO, Rai, Bloodshot, Q+W, what's not to like? And I haven't checked out Visitor yet but I'm hopeful of that title, so I'm feeling happily pseudo-nostalgic about March 2020 :D

I do wish we could reduce the number of minis hitting the shelves though. Glad to see XO noted simply as "#1", which suggests that VEI is happy to let the comic run its course for the time being, so we can hope for another 50 issue run, but whether or not we'll get one... Seems unlikely. Especially as it's written by a guy called 'Hopeless'. I mean seriously, how does this guy get hired? :|
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TheFerg714 wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
TheFerg714 wrote:Quantum & Woody #3 (of 4, now a mini-series, apparently)

Thoughts?
If this is not a mistake (and it looks like it's not) they're really starting to *SQUEE* me off now, too.

This is very disappointing.

WTF!
According to some fans on Facebook, it was apparently always solicited as a mini-series, from the beginning, in Diamond's Previews. Although this month it switched from 5 issues to 4. Evidently the Newsarama solicitations were just wrong. :?
Dang! I like Q&W and Hastings really seems to be a good fit. I was looking forward to getting 12 solid issues.

I'm not sold on the creative team for XO. Feels like a huge downgrade.

The rest is okay. I like Rai, Bloodshot, and the Visitor. DocTom sounds intriguing, too.

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X-O really does feel like a huge downgrade. We went from this

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XO -> Venditti > Kindt > Hopeless > facepalm

But maybe it's a good thing my expectations are at an all-time low here!?!

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TheFerg714 wrote:Am I the only one that's actually happy and optimistic about these solicitations? We've now got three tentpole ongoings going on at the same time, The Visitor (which seemed to be well received), Dr. Tomorrow (which, at the very least, looks unique), and Q&W (which has a legit creative team imo).

On paper it looks ok but the delivery is not so impressive.

XO looks visually very good so I’m looking forward to that one.

Rai has been so-so after 2 issues.

Bloodshot has been poor, only Rising Spirit has been worse.

The Visitor I haven’t yet read but I’m optimistic.

Q&W I’m not looking to buy unless the reviews are amazing.

Dr Tomorrow I’m not hugely optimistic about but I’ll buy the first issue and see how it goes.

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I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

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MGS wrote:I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

Mike
It’s been like that since VEI relaunched, with little exception. My favorite covers are usually those that show part of the story, like they did back in the day. These days, it’s mostly just a pin up pose.

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MGS wrote:I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

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I guess they figure there are enough collectors that try to have one of everything to make the cost of producing an additional cover worth it.
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nycjadie wrote:
MGS wrote:I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

Mike
It’s been like that since VEI relaunched, with little exception. My favorite covers are usually those that show part of the story, like they did back in the day. These days, it’s mostly just a pin up pose.
Exactly. I love it when I can just look at a cover and remember what the story was in that issue. I realize this isn’t a new trend, but it sure seems worse lately. I know a lot of times they get a cover from an artist and then use it at some point down the road, which of course means there’s no way for the artist to tie the art to the story.

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MGS wrote:
nycjadie wrote:
MGS wrote:I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

Mike
It’s been like that since VEI relaunched, with little exception. My favorite covers are usually those that show part of the story, like they did back in the day. These days, it’s mostly just a pin up pose.
Exactly. I love it when I can just look at a cover and remember what the story was in that issue. I realize this isn’t a new trend, but it sure seems worse lately. I know a lot of times they get a cover from an artist and then use it at some point down the road, which of course means there’s no way for the artist to tie the art to the story.

Mike
Considering that many hot comics are collected for the cover specifically, even if the content isn't particularly noteworthy, and that decompressed storytelling could result in there not being a particularly noteworthy action scene in a specific issue, I wouldn't expect the trend to change back to the way it used to be. Unless a company gets to the point where they have a number of issues in the can and they can still commission a cover in time to still solicit sales for that cover.
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kjjohanson wrote:Considering that many hot comics are collected for the cover specifically, even if the content isn't particularly noteworthy, and that decompressed storytelling could result in there not being a particularly noteworthy action scene in a specific issue, I wouldn't expect the trend to change back to the way it used to be. Unless a company gets to the point where they have a number of issues in the can and they can still commission a cover in time to still solicit sales for that cover.
Oh, I know you’re right. I don’t really expect it to get better. It’s still fun when an artist gets creative and breaks out of the usual “character against a blank background” mold.

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One of my favorites that tells the story.
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kjjohanson wrote:
MGS wrote:
nycjadie wrote:
MGS wrote:I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

Mike
It’s been like that since VEI relaunched, with little exception. My favorite covers are usually those that show part of the story, like they did back in the day. These days, it’s mostly just a pin up pose.
Exactly. I love it when I can just look at a cover and remember what the story was in that issue. I realize this isn’t a new trend, but it sure seems worse lately. I know a lot of times they get a cover from an artist and then use it at some point down the road, which of course means there’s no way for the artist to tie the art to the story.

Mike
Considering that many hot comics are collected for the cover specifically, even if the content isn't particularly noteworthy, and that decompressed storytelling could result in there not being a particularly noteworthy action scene in a specific issue, I wouldn't expect the trend to change back to the way it used to be. Unless a company gets to the point where they have a number of issues in the can and they can still commission a cover in time to still solicit sales for that cover.
So, are you saying a company that took the time and effort to tie cover with story would be a #badidea?
I hope someone is listening, because something like this could make a company stand out of the crowd, whatever company
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Nycjadie, that is a GOOD cover. Excellent eye. Just a few threads ago we were talking about how XO and The Visitor both (VEI) revealed the full suit before it was visible in the comic itself. I can understand for drumming up reader interest, but I don't really like it. I'm gonna have to do some thinking to think up my favorite in VEI. VH1 is easy
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Oxmyx wrote:Nycjadie, that is a GOOD cover. Excellent eye. Just a few threads ago we were talking about how XO and The Visitor both (VEI) revealed the full suit before it was visible in the comic itself. I can understand for drumming up reader interest, but I don't really like it. I'm gonna have to do some thinking to think up my favorite in VEI. VH1 is easy
I’ll bite. Which VH1 cover is your fav?

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nycjadie wrote:One of my favorites that tells the story.
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Ah, see, now we're talking! :)

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Oxmyx wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:
MGS wrote:
nycjadie wrote:
MGS wrote:I kinda wonder what’s the point of having multiple covers per issue when they’re all basically just pin-up poses of the main character. It’s not that the individual covers themselves are necessarily bad, but for the most part there’s very little to differentiate them.

Mike
It’s been like that since VEI relaunched, with little exception. My favorite covers are usually those that show part of the story, like they did back in the day. These days, it’s mostly just a pin up pose.
Exactly. I love it when I can just look at a cover and remember what the story was in that issue. I realize this isn’t a new trend, but it sure seems worse lately. I know a lot of times they get a cover from an artist and then use it at some point down the road, which of course means there’s no way for the artist to tie the art to the story.

Mike
Considering that many hot comics are collected for the cover specifically, even if the content isn't particularly noteworthy, and that decompressed storytelling could result in there not being a particularly noteworthy action scene in a specific issue, I wouldn't expect the trend to change back to the way it used to be. Unless a company gets to the point where they have a number of issues in the can and they can still commission a cover in time to still solicit sales for that cover.
So, are you saying a company that took the time and effort to tie cover with story would be a #badidea?
I hope someone is listening, because something like this could make a company stand out of the crowd, whatever company
Not sure how much it would make a company stand out, since a lot of people that buy comics don't open it and read it anyway
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Juki wrote:
Oxmyx wrote: I'm gonna have to do some thinking to think up my favorite in VEI. VH1 is easy
I’ll bite. Which VH1 cover is your fav?
Oh, jeez. You called me on it. Actually haha what I meant was that is was EASY TO THINK OF EXAMPLES of excellent story-related covers from VH1, but choosing a favorite is REALLY tough, especially on the spot! But let me think on it!
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Oxmyx wrote:
Juki wrote:
Oxmyx wrote: I'm gonna have to do some thinking to think up my favorite in VEI. VH1 is easy
I’ll bite. Which VH1 cover is your fav?
Oh, jeez. You called me on it. Actually haha what I meant was that is was EASY TO THINK OF EXAMPLES of excellent story-related covers from VH1, but choosing a favorite is REALLY tough, especially on the spot! But let me think on it!
How about a thread? Name/post your favorite VH-1 covers?

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
Oxmyx wrote:
Juki wrote:
Oxmyx wrote: I'm gonna have to do some thinking to think up my favorite in VEI. VH1 is easy
I’ll bite. Which VH1 cover is your fav?
Oh, jeez. You called me on it. Actually haha what I meant was that is was EASY TO THINK OF EXAMPLES of excellent story-related covers from VH1, but choosing a favorite is REALLY tough, especially on the spot! But let me think on it!
How about a thread? Name/post your favorite VH-1 covers?
That's a refreshingly positive idea... I'm game!
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