Valiant 2012 non continuity

jordansilo · Post by **jordansilo** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:00:03 pm

Can’t find a list of non continuity titles but so far I only know the following

Brittania and eternity

Are there others?

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:52:51 am

I’m not sure there is much that isn’t in continuity. I believe Britannia and Eternity are in.

Valiant High?

There was a Hard Corps mini story through many of the early issues.

I think there was a story only in one of the Q&W hardcovers - a silly one. Not sure about that.

Book of Death employed a cheap narrative trick that always made me feel like it wasn’t really part of continuity. I won’t spoil it, and it’s just a feel. It is in continuity.

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:50:03 am

I'd say that Eternity is within continuity because it progress Abram and Mishka's story from the end of their second arc.

There's nothing that specifically establishes, or doesn't establish Britannia within continuity, however I'd argue that despite its narrative isolation and chronological setting it'd be best to consider it continuity purely on the basis that it has no contradictory impact upon anything else narratively but is set on real-life Earth, where the rest of the VU occurs narratively - giving it the benefit of the doubt, so to speak.

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:58:09 am

Valiant High and Ninjak vs. the Valiant Universe aren't in continuity.

I don't think the comedy backups at the end of the #25 issues from the first four titles are meant to be continuity.

Q2 is part of the Acclaim continuity for Quantum & Woody, not VEI continuity.

I think a lot of people like to think of Dead Drop as being outside of continuity, but as far as I know it's considered in.

SwiftMann · Post by **SwiftMann** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:00:10 am

Ninjak vs the Valiant Universe and Valiant High.

Not sure why Eternity wouldn't be. Britannia is as it was included in the most recent Valiant Handbook.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:39:30 am

kjjohanson wrote:Valiant High and Ninjak vs. the Valiant Universe aren't in continuity.

I don't think the comedy backups at the end of the #25 issues from the first four titles are meant to be continuity.

Q2 is part of the Acclaim continuity for Quantum & Woody, not VEI continuity.

I think a lot of people like to think of Dead Drop as being outside of continuity, but as far as I know it's considered in.

These are great points.

Akin to Dead Drop, I feel that way about the Faith ongoing.

jordansilo · Post by **jordansilo** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:52:31 pm

Which titles are non essential which serves no purpose with the shared universe?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:38:04 pm

kjjohanson wrote:Valiant High and Ninjak vs. the Valiant Universe aren't in continuity.

I don't think the comedy backups at the end of the #25 issues from the first four titles are meant to be continuity.

Q2 is part of the Acclaim continuity for Quantum & Woody, not VEI continuity.

I think a lot of people like to think of Dead Drop as being outside of continuity, but as far as I know it's considered in.

This.

jordansilo · Post by **jordansilo** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:03:43 pm

Oh ok so far those are the only titles released that which serves no purpose

Oxmyx · Post by **Oxmyx** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:32:05 pm

Awhile ago I asked a similar question.

No one has yet mentioned EW: Sword of the Wild or Div III: Stalinverse.
I have read neither of those books yet, but my understanding is that while IN CONTINUITY per se they are sort of stand-alone Sword is past entirely and Stalinverse is alt timeline.
Note I haven't yet tested these by reading them.

It's pretty harsh to say any story doesn't matter (to someone) but I get what you are saying. But I'm very sure these two stories "matter" as does Brittania

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:24:10 pm

I might add Delinquents. Not sure anything Q&W really matters to the VU, but that was pretty out there for A&A, too. Can’t think of anything continuity wise that matters there.

Also the first, at least 4 issues of the Greg Pak EW series has pretty much been written off as if it never happened.

I would also like to pretend that most of the Milligan Shadowman issues didn’t not exist, but they are def in continuity.

jordansilo · Post by **jordansilo** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:22:23 pm

Oxmyx wrote:Awhile ago I asked a similar question.

No one has yet mentioned EW: Sword of the Wild or Div III: Stalinverse.
I have read neither of those books yet, but my understanding is that while IN CONTINUITY per se they are sort of stand-alone Sword is past entirely and Stalinverse is alt timeline.
Note I haven't yet tested these by reading them.

It's pretty harsh to say any story doesn't matter (to someone) but I get what you are saying. But I'm very sure these two stories "matter" as does Brittania

Oops didn’t mean to sound harsh about stories that don’t matter

I guess it’s more what’s actual canon / continuity or easier what isn’t at all.

jordansilo · Post by **jordansilo** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:37:22 pm

I know this isn’t the right forum

But does anyone know how many copies does the retailer have to order to get the chromium covers during the armor hunter saga

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:28:33 pm

jordansilo wrote:I know this isn’t the right forum

But does anyone know how many copies does the retailer have to order to get the chromium covers during the armor hunter saga

I'm pretty sure those were order-all (i.e. no limitations).

If the information that you'e looking for is what isn't essential reading, then I think we've pretty much covered it. Dead Drop was more or less a try out for Ales Kot and hasn't really affected anything since. The first EW arc (Sword of the Wild) has largely been ignored (although it did introduce a few characters/concepts that could pop back up).

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:12:10 pm

Davey the Mackerel doesn't feel like continuity... but maybe there's more story like he's from the future (advanced genetic experiments/successes) and Armstrong agreed to keep him safe/hidden in the bag for Ivar.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:29:32 pm

How about the Unity Valiant 8-Bit Adventure?

Sunlight on Snow · Post by **Sunlight on Snow** » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:44:37 am

sonicdan wrote:How about the Unity Valiant 8-Bit Adventure?

It's UNITY's training day to get ready to kick XO's butt.

Definitely in continuity.

Sunlight on Snow · Post by **Sunlight on Snow** » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:47:58 am

The "Secret Convergence War of Infinite Squirts" probably isn't in continuity.

Although the ending suggests whatever gets published is in fact "in continuity".

TheFerg714 · Post by **TheFerg714** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:29:15 pm

You guys are making it way more complicated than it needs to be. These are the four non-canonical stories published by VEI. You could also probably include some of the shorts from various specials and anniversary issues.

Valiant High
Ninjak vs. the VU
Q2
Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:25:31 pm

TheFerg714 wrote:You guys are making it way more complicated than it needs to be. These are the four non-canonical stories published by VEI. You could also probably include some of the shorts from various specials and anniversary issues.
Valiant High
Ninjak vs. the VU
Q2
Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd

Has it been confirmed that Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd is not in continuity?

Oxmyx · Post by **Oxmyx** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:23:52 pm

TheFerg714 wrote:You could also probably include some of the shorts from various specials and anniversary issues.

You mean XO versus Ceasar's Palace isn't in continuity? Say it ain't so!

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