Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
I'm hoping this gets a deluxe edition release. Then again, there are a bunch of titles I've been waiting to get the deluxe treatment that sadly haven't.Benny_Decker wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:30:50 pmIt is out and the series completely lives up to the hype!
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
I've never felt the need to try to impress Valiant and I've read these books since the 90s. I'm not a new school fan.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02:18 pmI’d like to think older podcasts maybe just more honest as they no longer feel the need to impress Valiant. New podcasts are super enthusiastic for sure, but as a listener I tend to switch off when I hear *consistently* unrealistic reviews of poor to average books which podcasters claim are ‘great books’. I stop listening as I can’t trust the judgement when mediocre books are 4.5/5 and poor books are 3.75/5.TheeBaldMoose wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:37:10 pmNot quite sure if feelings are the same or not, I'd bet some are pretty close to the same (X-O took a beating). When books are back, I am going to ask for the readers evaluation (based on a scale of 1-5) and get their rating for the books, especially through the first arc. It'll be interesting to see the overall ratings from fans and put that up against any podcast/twitter rating to see just how the book fared with the fans.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:14:55 pmEach to their own but let’s also recognise that you’re in the minority amongst Valiant fans, at least on this site which is the main source for the hardcore. I don’t follow the Valiant fans on Facebook but I assume the general feeling is the same?
Best part, podcasters can see just how far off or how accurate their evaluation was to the average fan. Every podcast has it's issues, new ones are excited, might be looking for the clicks. Older ones might be more jaded, more bitter. I get that their reviews are their interpretations, and that's fair.
If Facebook Valiant has similar views to here then I wonder what feedback Valiant (Acclaim 2.0) get which tells them to keep cranking out the books they’ve been doing this last 2 years?
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
One of my first comics was the holofoil X-O #0, but I'm not going to pretend I was reading Valiant back then - I was 6 and my local grocery store mostly had Marvel and DC on their spinner racks. However, I was a big VEI reader when X-O launched in 2012, and as I mentioned earlier I fell off around Gen Zero. I've also written for a few websites over the years, and I'll admit that having access to publishers does result in a bit of favoritism - whether it's intentional or subconsciously. It's just human nature.Joshua wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:41:04 amI've never felt the need to try to impress Valiant and I've read these books since the 90s. I'm not a new school fan.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02:18 pmI’d like to think older podcasts maybe just more honest as they no longer feel the need to impress Valiant. New podcasts are super enthusiastic for sure, but as a listener I tend to switch off when I hear *consistently* unrealistic reviews of poor to average books which podcasters claim are ‘great books’. I stop listening as I can’t trust the judgement when mediocre books are 4.5/5 and poor books are 3.75/5.TheeBaldMoose wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:37:10 pmNot quite sure if feelings are the same or not, I'd bet some are pretty close to the same (X-O took a beating). When books are back, I am going to ask for the readers evaluation (based on a scale of 1-5) and get their rating for the books, especially through the first arc. It'll be interesting to see the overall ratings from fans and put that up against any podcast/twitter rating to see just how the book fared with the fans.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:14:55 pmEach to their own but let’s also recognise that you’re in the minority amongst Valiant fans, at least on this site which is the main source for the hardcore. I don’t follow the Valiant fans on Facebook but I assume the general feeling is the same?
Best part, podcasters can see just how far off or how accurate their evaluation was to the average fan. Every podcast has it's issues, new ones are excited, might be looking for the clicks. Older ones might be more jaded, more bitter. I get that their reviews are their interpretations, and that's fair.
If Facebook Valiant has similar views to here then I wonder what feedback Valiant (Acclaim 2.0) get which tells them to keep cranking out the books they’ve been doing this last 2 years?
However, I don't think any of the podcasts or website go out of their way to "impress" Valiant - especially the major ones. Keeping something like that up and running is a lot of hard work, and the majority of them are purely passion projects. I know several major websites don't make any money and the writers aren't paid, and I'm certain that many podcasts operate under similar circumstances. So they're taking the time to write articles or record podcasts because the subject - in this case, Valiant - is something that they are passionate about. More likely than not out of enjoyment. So it makes sense to me that there'd be a more positive disposition.
So with that said, I've been doing some catching up and figured I'd give my thoughts on some recent books. I've never really been a fan of Q&W, and the current series reads like more of the same for me. The Visitor is an okay mystery. I thought KI-6: Killers or whatever it's called had an interesting premise with poor execution. I thought the new X-O was a 2/5 book that could have been a 4/5 book if they didn't give Shanhara a voice. I like Rai. I enjoyed the latest Doctor Mirage. I'm indifferent on Bloodshot, but I've only enjoyed him in The Valiant and early issues Bloodshot Reborn. I have high hopes for Shadowman given the creative team, and I'm looking forward to Ninjak's return.
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
Dallow, I think you missed what I was trying to say, it was closer to the opposite. Some books have had positive spins, but not many. X-O took a beating on the FB page, there were a lot that just were not happy with the results of the book. Many of the other books echoed a sentiment similar to here, although maybe not quite as harsh. There are a good amount of people from this page, that frequent the FB page (lurkers and posters), so those results don't surprise me much.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02:18 pmI’d like to think older podcasts maybe just more honest as they no longer feel the need to impress Valiant. New podcasts are super enthusiastic for sure, but as a listener I tend to switch off when I hear *consistently* unrealistic reviews of poor to average books which podcasters claim are ‘great books’. I stop listening as I can’t trust the judgement when mediocre books are 4.5/5 and poor books are 3.75/5.TheeBaldMoose wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:37:10 pmNot quite sure if feelings are the same or not, I'd bet some are pretty close to the same (X-O took a beating). When books are back, I am going to ask for the readers evaluation (based on a scale of 1-5) and get their rating for the books, especially through the first arc. It'll be interesting to see the overall ratings from fans and put that up against any podcast/twitter rating to see just how the book fared with the fans.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:14:55 pmEach to their own but let’s also recognise that you’re in the minority amongst Valiant fans, at least on this site which is the main source for the hardcore. I don’t follow the Valiant fans on Facebook but I assume the general feeling is the same?
Best part, podcasters can see just how far off or how accurate their evaluation was to the average fan. Every podcast has it's issues, new ones are excited, might be looking for the clicks. Older ones might be more jaded, more bitter. I get that their reviews are their interpretations, and that's fair.
If Facebook Valiant has similar views to here then I wonder what feedback Valiant (Acclaim 2.0) get which tells them to keep cranking out the books they’ve been doing this last 2 years?
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
I guess it goes back to WHO are Valiant listening to when they decided this was the direction to go in!TheeBaldMoose wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 10:01:58 amDallow, I think you missed what I was trying to say, it was closer to the opposite. Some books have had positive spins, but not many. X-O took a beating on the FB page, there were a lot that just were not happy with the results of the book. Many of the other books echoed a sentiment similar to here, although maybe not quite as harsh. There are a good amount of people from this page, that frequent the FB page (lurkers and posters), so those results don't surprise me much.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02:18 pmI’d like to think older podcasts maybe just more honest as they no longer feel the need to impress Valiant. New podcasts are super enthusiastic for sure, but as a listener I tend to switch off when I hear *consistently* unrealistic reviews of poor to average books which podcasters claim are ‘great books’. I stop listening as I can’t trust the judgement when mediocre books are 4.5/5 and poor books are 3.75/5.TheeBaldMoose wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:37:10 pmNot quite sure if feelings are the same or not, I'd bet some are pretty close to the same (X-O took a beating). When books are back, I am going to ask for the readers evaluation (based on a scale of 1-5) and get their rating for the books, especially through the first arc. It'll be interesting to see the overall ratings from fans and put that up against any podcast/twitter rating to see just how the book fared with the fans.Dallow Spicer1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:14:55 pmEach to their own but let’s also recognise that you’re in the minority amongst Valiant fans, at least on this site which is the main source for the hardcore. I don’t follow the Valiant fans on Facebook but I assume the general feeling is the same?
Best part, podcasters can see just how far off or how accurate their evaluation was to the average fan. Every podcast has it's issues, new ones are excited, might be looking for the clicks. Older ones might be more jaded, more bitter. I get that their reviews are their interpretations, and that's fair.
If Facebook Valiant has similar views to here then I wonder what feedback Valiant (Acclaim 2.0) get which tells them to keep cranking out the books they’ve been doing this last 2 years?
Good to know the consensus is similar to here
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
I would just like to point out that the poll is invalid as there is no option for ice cream...
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Objection overruled!lorddunlow wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:15:45 am I would just like to point out that the poll is invalid as there is no option for ice cream...
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I could go for some ice cream about now...lorddunlow wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:15:45 am I would just like to point out that the poll is invalid as there is no option for ice cream...
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I introduced my wife to Chico Taco and now it is her favorite. But we can't find them in any stores (except individual). Anyone ever see them sold in a box? I'm also trying to figure out a store that has Eskimo Piedarkwingdan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:18:35 amI could go for some ice cream about now...lorddunlow wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:15:45 am I would just like to point out that the poll is invalid as there is no option for ice cream...
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I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?
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Do you mean Choco Tacos?Oxmyx wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 12:10:26 pmI introduced my wife to Chico Taco and now it is her favorite. But we can't find them in any stores (except individual). Anyone ever see them sold in a box? I'm also trying to figure out a store that has Eskimo Piedarkwingdan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:18:35 amI could go for some ice cream about now...lorddunlow wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:15:45 am I would just like to point out that the poll is invalid as there is no option for ice cream...
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I know of a Chico's Tacos, but that is not a breakfast food, except on spring break.
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I first read that as "Chiclo Taco" and so this comment makes me even more ashamed.Chiclo wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 3:51:39 pmDo you mean Choco Tacos?Oxmyx wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 12:10:26 pmI introduced my wife to Chico Taco and now it is her favorite. But we can't find them in any stores (except individual). Anyone ever see them sold in a box? I'm also trying to figure out a store that has Eskimo Piedarkwingdan wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:18:35 amI could go for some ice cream about now...lorddunlow wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:15:45 am I would just like to point out that the poll is invalid as there is no option for ice cream...
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I know of a Chico's Tacos, but that is not a breakfast food, except on spring break.
Manga, comics, who cares? They're pretty much the same thing.
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I also read Chiclo Taco first. Thought I had stumbled onto some Valiant urban dictionary.
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Dear God, the mental image I now carry... My eyes!possumgrease wrote:I also read Chiclo Taco first. Thought I had stumbled onto some Valiant urban dictionary.
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
I prefer fresh spaghetti ice from the ice cafe around the corner. It's one if not the most popular ice cream dishes in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsWfeVLUTJs
Whipped cream, vanilla ice (noodles), strawberry sauce, and coconut flakes on top.
Do you have those in the US, too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsWfeVLUTJs
Whipped cream, vanilla ice (noodles), strawberry sauce, and coconut flakes on top.
Do you have those in the US, too?
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It's not that bad. Chiclo's tacos are basically huevos rancheros without the beans.lorddunlow wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:21:07 amDear God, the mental image I now carry... My eyes!possumgrease wrote:I also read Chiclo Taco first. Thought I had stumbled onto some Valiant urban dictionary.
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Yes, I had meant Chaco Tacos. I know I was typing the post at work, either hurriedly on break (possibly with glare from the sun) or even more hurriedly not on break.Chiclo wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:14:17 amIt's not that bad. Chiclo's tacos are basically huevos rancheros without the beans.lorddunlow wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:21:07 amDear God, the mental image I now carry... My eyes!possumgrease wrote:I also read Chiclo Taco first. Thought I had stumbled onto some Valiant urban dictionary.
But it occurs to me that Chiclo Tacos are best served cold, with salsa.
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
My interest wained about a year after relaunch, the constant never ending amount of variants made it nearly impossible to keep up, as much a I would have liked too.
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Re: Are we becoming indifferent towards Valiant?
Due to circumstances, I've been able to do more reading in the last six weeks than in the last six years.
I've read:
Eternal Warrior: Sword of the Wild and Eternal Emperor
Ninjak: Weaponeer and Operation Deadside
4001 AD Deluxe HC
Rai: Welcome to New Japan and Battle for New Japan
I've loved them all. Yes, even Sword of the Wild (I think Greg Pak introduced a lot of ideas that can be expanded on to make great stories).
If Shooter and others have us VH1 Pre-Unity and Unity, and Dinesh and others gave us the above and pre-DMG, I believe that someone can give us more VALIANT greatness! Thank you Dan Abnett for Fallen World and Rai!
I've read:
Eternal Warrior: Sword of the Wild and Eternal Emperor
Ninjak: Weaponeer and Operation Deadside
4001 AD Deluxe HC
Rai: Welcome to New Japan and Battle for New Japan
I've loved them all. Yes, even Sword of the Wild (I think Greg Pak introduced a lot of ideas that can be expanded on to make great stories).
If Shooter and others have us VH1 Pre-Unity and Unity, and Dinesh and others gave us the above and pre-DMG, I believe that someone can give us more VALIANT greatness! Thank you Dan Abnett for Fallen World and Rai!
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