Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Discuss the VALIANT comics, characters, and collecting.
PLEASE DO NOT REVEAL SPOILER INFORMATION IN YOUR TOPIC TITLE.

Moderators: Daniel Jackson, greg

Post Reply
User avatar
greg
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
Posts: 22861
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39:27 am
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Location: Indoors
Contact:
Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by greg »

Article:
http://valiantentertainment.com/2020/06 ... l-posters/

Shopping:
https://displate.com/valiantentertainme ... d93ab13e15

DISPLATE_BLOODSHOT-640x360[1].jpg
(ValiantFans.com is not paid for any sales or referrals... this is just info.) :D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
darkwingdan
Working on the first full appearance of me
Working on the first full appearance of me
Posts: 17
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:09:59 am
Valiant fan since: 2012
Favorite character: Ninjak
Favorite title: The Valiant
Favorite writer: Matt Kindt
Favorite artist: Tomas Giorello
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by darkwingdan »

Finally, my chance to get that Sauvage variant of Ninjak #4 :P

corey
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
Posts: 1004
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:03:21 pm
Valiant fan since: 1st turok
Favorite character: x-o manowar
Favorite title: x-o manowar
Location: Kentucky
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by corey »

Man I wish I had wall space for 2 or 3of these

User avatar
nycjadie
Especially "dude." And "balls." Those terms work in the tech industry.
Especially "dude." And "balls." Those terms work in the tech industry.
Posts: 7288
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:38:36 am
Valiant fan since: Solar #1
Favorite character: Rai
Favorite title: Bloodshot
Favorite writer: Kindt
Favorite artist: Too many to choose.
Location: Virginia
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by nycjadie »

These are cool. I have the OA for one of the Bloodshot covers. I’d probably end up getting that one!

User avatar
magnus20009
You gotta have Faith!
You gotta have Faith!
Posts: 756
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:52:22 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by magnus20009 »

These look very neat and I might pick up one or two but I am a bit confused.

So most valiant comic books only sell 5,000 copies, including multiple covers, so let’s says 2,000 people buy them.

And they have over 100 posters that sell for $44 each. There must be some posters that will have no copies as I have to think these things are printed to order.

User avatar
magnus20009
You gotta have Faith!
You gotta have Faith!
Posts: 756
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:52:22 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by magnus20009 »

Playing around on the site I was correct. They are printed to order. You can chose between 3 sizes and whether you want the covers to be Matte or Gloss.

User avatar
TheeBaldMoose
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2451
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:03:41 pm
Valiant fan since: ECCC April 2016
Favorite character: Bloodshot/Ninjak/Divinity
Favorite title: Divinity/BS Reborn/Britannia
Favorite writer: Kindt/Lemire/Roberts
Favorite artist: All of them, really
Location: Tacoma
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by TheeBaldMoose »

I'm really liking these, think I will get two or three, but which ones?
Moose

User avatar
paradise
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Posts: 2896
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:21:07 pm
Valiant fan since: 1994
Favorite character: X-O Manowar
Favorite title: X-O Manowar, Unity
Favorite writer: Matt Kindt
Favorite artist: Bart Sears
Location: Winnetka, CA
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by paradise »

I am SO getting the two XO pieces I have original art of.

BTW fun story, I used to be an artist on displate with my photography, when they just started. They may still be there somewhere
Edward
COLLECTOR'S PARADISE Stores:(Canoga Park, Pasadena, North Hollywood)
7131 Winnetka Ave - Canoga Park, CA - 91306 - 818-999-9455
319 S. Arroyo Parkway - Pasadena, CA - 91105 - 626-577-6694
5118 Lankershim Blvd - NoHo, CA - 91601 - 818-980-BOOK
http://ComicsAndCards.net

User avatar
paradise
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Posts: 2896
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:21:07 pm
Valiant fan since: 1994
Favorite character: X-O Manowar
Favorite title: X-O Manowar, Unity
Favorite writer: Matt Kindt
Favorite artist: Bart Sears
Location: Winnetka, CA
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by paradise »

BTW, if you DONT go through Valiant's link, and just go to Displate and find the valiant collection, you can get 25% off using SUNNY25.
Edward
COLLECTOR'S PARADISE Stores:(Canoga Park, Pasadena, North Hollywood)
7131 Winnetka Ave - Canoga Park, CA - 91306 - 818-999-9455
319 S. Arroyo Parkway - Pasadena, CA - 91105 - 626-577-6694
5118 Lankershim Blvd - NoHo, CA - 91601 - 818-980-BOOK
http://ComicsAndCards.net

User avatar
Sunlight on Snow
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2230
Joined: Sat May 28, 2016 1:11:03 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by Sunlight on Snow »

Keeping in mind those metal plates are printed to order they should have really let you choose whatever (regular) cover you want (maybe without any exclusive covers and without the high ratio incentives; 1:100+).

There's no Eternal Warrior solo, no Harada solo, no Bleeding Monk solo, no Bloodhound, no Bloodshot family (except the Analog Man), no Savage, no Imperium gang. No Sunlight. No Master Darque?!? No Alpha by Larosa. No goat eating a comic. No XO from Venditti's run. LOL. No Valiant logo only. No vintage logo either.

Other than the rather lackluster selection....good idea.

I get the black Shadowman one.

Are those metal plates good? Has anyone ever ordered one before? Star Wars?
Last edited by Sunlight on Snow on Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:20:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
paradise
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Posts: 2896
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:21:07 pm
Valiant fan since: 1994
Favorite character: X-O Manowar
Favorite title: X-O Manowar, Unity
Favorite writer: Matt Kindt
Favorite artist: Bart Sears
Location: Winnetka, CA
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by paradise »

That's NOT how licences work 🙄
Edward
COLLECTOR'S PARADISE Stores:(Canoga Park, Pasadena, North Hollywood)
7131 Winnetka Ave - Canoga Park, CA - 91306 - 818-999-9455
319 S. Arroyo Parkway - Pasadena, CA - 91105 - 626-577-6694
5118 Lankershim Blvd - NoHo, CA - 91601 - 818-980-BOOK
http://ComicsAndCards.net

User avatar
Sunlight on Snow
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2230
Joined: Sat May 28, 2016 1:11:03 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by Sunlight on Snow »

paradise wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:45:31 am That's NOT how licences work 🙄
Of course NOT

User avatar
Sunlight on Snow
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2230
Joined: Sat May 28, 2016 1:11:03 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by Sunlight on Snow »

Speaking of licenses, is all this legal?

https://displate.com/choon/bloodshot
https://displate.com/displate/2508527 - This is an original cover by Diego Bernard, Scott Williams, and Crisstiano Cruz

https://displate.com/displate/2466883 - This is an original fan art by BossLogic

Bloodshot movie posters
https://displate.com/displate/2567457
https://displate.com/displate/2436703

User avatar
paradise
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Major Valiant-supporting retailer
Posts: 2896
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:21:07 pm
Valiant fan since: 1994
Favorite character: X-O Manowar
Favorite title: X-O Manowar, Unity
Favorite writer: Matt Kindt
Favorite artist: Bart Sears
Location: Winnetka, CA
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by paradise »

Displate is a big time company, been around for a long time and has a Marvel license, so I don't think it's illegal. Valiant probably has a shared license to distribute movie images and probably got permission from Boss Logic to use the image (or Sony did).
Edward
COLLECTOR'S PARADISE Stores:(Canoga Park, Pasadena, North Hollywood)
7131 Winnetka Ave - Canoga Park, CA - 91306 - 818-999-9455
319 S. Arroyo Parkway - Pasadena, CA - 91105 - 626-577-6694
5118 Lankershim Blvd - NoHo, CA - 91601 - 818-980-BOOK
http://ComicsAndCards.net

User avatar
Sunlight on Snow
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2230
Joined: Sat May 28, 2016 1:11:03 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by Sunlight on Snow »

paradise wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:02:03 pm Displate is a big time company, been around for a long time and has a Marvel license, so I don't think it's illegal. Valiant probably has a shared license to distribute movie images and probably got permission from Boss Logic to use the image (or Sony did).
Everyone can open an account, upload stuff, and "share and earn". In their copyrights policy Displate says they are "a community built upon respect for artists and their intellectual property rights as well as the intellectual property rights of third parties" and that they have zero tolerance but we all know what that means. Close to nothing. If they don't even know much about Valiant comics it's also quite difficult to know that these artworks could be someone else's.

Fact is, the ones I linked before were all uploaded by some random users (judging from their user names). BossLogic would certainly use his name and logo. I already sent him an email to let him know about this. I would want to order this but I wouldn't want someone to earn anything of it if that someone didn't have BossLogic's consent.

User avatar
TheeBaldMoose
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2451
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:03:41 pm
Valiant fan since: ECCC April 2016
Favorite character: Bloodshot/Ninjak/Divinity
Favorite title: Divinity/BS Reborn/Britannia
Favorite writer: Kindt/Lemire/Roberts
Favorite artist: All of them, really
Location: Tacoma
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by TheeBaldMoose »

Sunlight on Snow wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:22:15 pm Speaking of licenses, is all this legal?



https://displate.com/displate/2466883 - This is an original fan art by BossLogic
Looks like this one has already been taken down
Moose

User avatar
TheeBaldMoose
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2451
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:03:41 pm
Valiant fan since: ECCC April 2016
Favorite character: Bloodshot/Ninjak/Divinity
Favorite title: Divinity/BS Reborn/Britannia
Favorite writer: Kindt/Lemire/Roberts
Favorite artist: All of them, really
Location: Tacoma
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by TheeBaldMoose »

TheeBaldMoose wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:20:31 am
Sunlight on Snow wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:22:15 pm Speaking of licenses, is all this legal?



https://displate.com/displate/2466883 - This is an original fan art by BossLogic
Looks like this one has already been taken down
Still looks like these three fan art projects are still purchasable
Moose

User avatar
Sunlight on Snow
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2230
Joined: Sat May 28, 2016 1:11:03 pm
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by Sunlight on Snow »

TheeBaldMoose wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:23:09 am
TheeBaldMoose wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:20:31 am
Sunlight on Snow wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:22:15 pm Speaking of licenses, is all this legal?



https://displate.com/displate/2466883 - This is an original fan art by BossLogic
Looks like this one has already been taken down
Still looks like these three fan art projects are still purchasable
Well I only sent BossLogic an email about his artwork. I'll send Gregg Katzman a message about the other ones.

I'm 100% sure the Diego Bernard one has been taken from DeviantArt; apparently, it happens a lot.

User avatar
greg
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
Posts: 22861
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39:27 am
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Location: Indoors
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by greg »

Let's use the House of Mouse example for discussion...

If I draw the coolest version of Mickey Mouse ever, I don't get ANY rights to sell or reproduce my own artwork if Disney didn't give permission. Additionally, Disney would not have to get my permission to make my art their new logo, if they wanted. They own Mickey Mouse and all images which are clearly MIckey Mouse - to have them destroyed or multiplied in any way, period.

Unauthorized art created by fans (even if the fan is a professional artist) conveys NO rights to the artist if the character is copyrighted by someone else, correct?

User avatar
ckb
Psssst. Hey buddy, need another CGC fix?
Psssst. Hey buddy, need another CGC fix?
Posts: 7397
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:15:59 am
Location: Paul Smith's house
Contact:
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by ckb »

I was holding off commenting here but since it came up, I too have problems with Displate and IP. I"m not sure why big outfits like Blizzard and many others do business with them.

Actually, I take that back. I know exactly why. $$. The low trickle of bootlegged items that come out of Displate are not worth doing anything about... there is a good reason that Displate is in Eastern Europe... so the property owner's best option is to partner with them, charge them a license fee, and make the legal sales dwarf the illegal ones.

A company like VEI may have offered them a royalty-only deal, although with the Sony movie property now, maybe not.

So Displate toes the line. They sell both licensed and unlicensed material. From Poland.

nonplayer
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Rockin' out in Torquehalla
Posts: 2241
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:16:04 pm
Valiant fan since: back in the day xo#9
Favorite character: Momo, xo turok
Favorite title: Wrath of the eternal warrior
Favorite writer: Joshua dysart
Favorite artist: Robert Gill
Location: out for lunch
Re: Valiant metal signs - new in June 2020

Post by nonplayer »

I dont need anymore garbage. I have thusands of comics I can put up if I wanna look at the failed comic company.
I Miss the good old days.


Post Reply