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I keep trying to point out that marvel has been assimilating anything unique, creative and successful about valiant and making it a part of their optics..
I pointed out how Hawkeye was ninjak in avengers endgame, they brought up nanites before the bloodshot movie..
Then I saw vei shadowman in savage avengers, and now conan in marvel comics reads like vh1 aric, also in savage avengers..
THEN
I see this today in a book called' iron man/doom king in black'
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I used to know how to post pics to a thread here, but I lost the technology, and for some reason i cant post these.
If someone can post these to this thread I'd be stoked..

Yellow/gold and blue living armor...come on!
You make think valiant is small and no one cares but you are wrong..

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I don't think it's so much Marvel being inspired by X-O as it is a colouring thing. It's not gonna be bright red at night, and yellow was always part of the colour scheme.
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I can kinda of see it. It's one of those you really got a squint things. More in a huh that kinda looks like X-O just by chance than on purpose.

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He looks just like XO. All the tentacle type things on the outside. I totally see it
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armlessphelan wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:47:56 pm I don't think it's so much Marvel being inspired by X-O as it is a colouring thing. It's not gonna be bright red at night, and yellow was always part of the colour scheme.
This.

Just a really bad job by the colorist. Guru-eFX really should have let some of the red shine through. Ironically, Guru-eFX also colored the regular cover on which Iron Man appears as usual and the tentacles aren't even yellow (by day). :lol:

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:roll:

In the story Iron Man's armor has been enhanced/compromised by a Venom symbiote. Hence what is seen on page.

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Honestly, looks more like Acclaim xo.
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Take what you will from the combination of the year of the design and the designer..... There were more I could've added to demonstrate the lineage here, but I'm not diving in deep on the graphic work today.

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Well...so ironman is infected with a symbiote, so it is a living alien armor?
I've made a lot of predictions over the years here, and most have come true..
Mark my words...in a marvel comic soon, iron man will give conan an iron man style suit. But you will be able to see conan's full face..

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valiantdude wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:14:39 pm Well...so ironman is infected with a symbiote, so it is a living alien armor?
I've made a lot of predictions over the years here, and most have come true..
Mark my words...in a marvel comic soon, iron man will give conan an iron man style suit. But you will be able to see conan's full face..
This was an interesting interpretation actually...

But I guess I'm not sure about what point you are making.... are you saying that Marvel is cribbing their success from X-O Manowar? I mean there has to be a point behind the 2+2 head math you are doing.

So I'm just asking, what are you saying specifically?

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Wait! Something's wrong here....... :?

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When you understand something like market dominance and the psychology behind the market dominance , you will understand that in a major corporation that wants to be the most successful in its field , they will look at any other successes in the same Market and then siphon those successes and make those their success ... the corporate success.. part of the goal is to create the illusion to the consistently new faces that are exposed to this media that they created those ideas and everyone is copying them..they are superior..
Xo was always conan in a can, layton said it, jim said it..
With a dash of venom..
Now it's coming full circle
Conan with an iron man suit..exposed face, most likely necessary as a plot vehicle because there will be some kind of big battle in space and Conan will need a spacesuit

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Sunlight on Snow wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:05:07 am Image

Wait! Something's wrong here....... :?
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valiantdude wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:22:56 am When you understand something like market dominance and the psychology behind the market dominance , you will understand that in a major corporation that wants to be the most successful in its field , they will look at any other successes in the same Market and then siphon those successes and make those their success ... the corporate success.. part of the goal is to create the illusion to the consistently new faces that are exposed to this media that they created those ideas and everyone is copying them..they are superior..
Xo was always conan in a can, layton said it, jim said it..
With a dash of venom..
Now it's coming full circle
Conan with an iron man suit..exposed face, most likely necessary as a plot vehicle because there will be some kind of big battle in space and Conan will need a spacesuit
Ah.

I guess this proves that X-O and current Valiant comics is the market leader that Marvel is turning to in order to maintain their success. There was an issue of Quasar about 25 years ago or so where the artist drew him armoring up in quantum armor that looked like X-O Manowar too! There's another nugget of proof for your thesis there...

In the meantime I'm going back to my undergrad school to demand a refund - we should've clearly discussed market dominance in the psych program there.
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Batman wore a rubber muscle suit in 1989. Conan O'Brien is striving for market dominance by looking at the successes of Tim Burton. And that's the problem with America these days - all of the rubber suits need to be turned into tires because not enough people have the opportunity to drive cars. sigh.

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"I guess this proves that X-O and current Valiant comics is the market leader that Marvel is turning to in order to maintain their success"

no....duh...do you actually think that?..
They are china's entrance into the comic / comic movie industry.. obviously...and if you are a major corporation like disney, and china wants to do battle with you in the market, you hit them while they are down..
pretty obvious thinking

you think valiant is just this little turd of a company now, because it is.. remember they are owned by the CCP through essentially shell companies..but at any time...any time... china can pump infinite cash into not only the comics, but more importantly the movie (propaganda) industry, which has a deep influence on the collective american consciouness..
then, since china owns a major stake in ALL 7 amercian movie studios, and a massive chunck of american media in general..they can turn on the pressure and take over the multi billion dolllar comic movie market, but more important than the money is the ability to program through media the very mushy mind of the average american, who seem to consume media like they live at a Las Vegas buffett..

It only takes a little bit of intelligent thinking to extrapolate this perspective based on all the evidence available about China's practices,and of course the cut throat corporate american business world that disney is a major factor in..

They both dont want just market dominance, they want to control what you buy and how you think, and the entity that controls the media, controls these things..


"In the meantime I'm going back to my undergrad school to demand a refund - we should've clearly discussed market dominance in the psych program there."


sounds like you didn't take a business psychology class in all your learning, but its all out there in books and such, whatever deficiency you had from school you can amend with personal education..

"Batman wore a rubber muscle suit in 1989. Conan O'Brien is striving for market dominance by looking at the successes of Tim Burton. And that's the problem with America these days - all of the rubber suits need to be turned into tires because not enough people have the opportunity to drive cars. sigh."

this is like gibberish, trying to be funny, but then just sounding like gibberish, and not really a funny or intelligent response :kidaround:


what i am pointing out are the little things, the suttle things that are indicators of something bigger.. i already know i am accurate, I am just trying to bring it to everyone's attention

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valiantdude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:04:23 pm but then just sounding like gibberish, and not really a funny or intelligent response :kidaround:
Well. I never claimed nor thought that I was one of the intelligent people here on the forums. So you get what you get with me.

But the point is that I think you are grasping at straws for whatever personal psychology makes you want to dig in and score points for Valiant - a publisher which has sucked for some years now. So if you really want my response and want me to be concise about it, then there it is.

I question the correlation as you've presented it. It's weird, weak and held together by only the loosest of strings and connections. Don't get me wrong, I don't frown on you for how you do your mental algebra or anything like that. I don't even really care. I just think it's a critical thinking error born of some desire to defend the publisher for personal psychology XYZ. I think you've made the simple kind of connection a person makes and runs with it as they weave a deeper narrative to themselves regarding how it's true.
valiantdude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:04:23 pm what i am pointing out are the little things, the suttle things
I think the real truth is that if there is a pattern to what you've pointed it, it's more about the same creators working on similar IP's and evolving from there. Like I subtly showed in the graphic. But any further connection from the creator-explanation is beyond me, because further explanation would come from assumptions or bull $#!( from data that I don't have. And then I would sound like you.

And so maybe there is a pattern there. But I doubt that it's your pattern about other publishers trying to rip off Valiant for market share. Rather is probably more about the involved creatives and the evolution of things.

Like I said earlier, 20 years ago Marvel put Quasar in X-O Manowar quantum armor for 3 panels as a joke. On a long enough timeline you'll have some other example somewhere from which you can establish any connection that you want.

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Thank you..my phones auto correct unspelled that for me..
It works well, but there's subtle mess ups..
The chinese business mind...the ccp...world domination..its a multi dimensional (literally) battle for control of human consciouness..
That graphic didn't really show anything correlating I'm sorry..but it meant something for you i guess
Look my friend, like I said earlier, when you see conan from marvel , the 2020 aric version, in an iron man suit..my prediction will again be accurate..
I almost want to throw in that it will be the new iron man infected symbiote armor..that is yellow and blue I might add and is not a coloring snafu, never was..
The the birthquake will have begun in conanowar #1..haha..
Itll probably get it's own book..

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valiantdude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:23:31 pm Thank you..my phones auto correct unspelled that for me..
It works well, but there's subtle mess ups..
The chinese business mind...the ccp...world domination..its a multi dimensional (literally) battle for control of human consciouness..
That graphic didn't really show anything correlating I'm sorry..but it meant something for you i guess
Look my friend, like I said earlier, when you see conan from marvel , the 2020 aric version, in an iron man suit..my prediction will again be accurate..
I almost want to throw in that it will be the new iron man infected symbiote armor..that is yellow and blue I might add and is not a coloring snafu, never was..
The the birthquake will have begun in conanowar #1..haha..
Itll probably get it's own book..
This makes no sense. The CCP is not going to use Valiant comics to take over the world.
Manga, comics, who cares? They're pretty much the same thing.

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They’re not going to not use Valiant to take over the world.

From my understanding, they are mostly going for some kind of evil Chinese 5G to take over the internet. So once again, iphones and facebook are destroying the free world.

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"This makes no sense. The CCP is not going to use Valiant comics to take over the world."

Dude..is everybody ok? :)
It's 'A' front, it's not 'THE' front
It's one of the many avenues into the american consciousness, and a springboard into a larger Avenue, which is the movie (propaganda) industry, which is currently focused on superheroes, and likely will be for awhile..china is most definently right now, and I mean right now, making a play for world domination in the geopolitical sense..ask dirtbag sailor, hes in the military I think he would probably tell u better than me, i don't know him but every military person including in my family has been repeating the same refrain..
Yes dmg aquired vei to bring china which is the CCP, there's no seperation, into the american comic book market..
I'm not the only person that has said this even here.
Dinesh *SQUEE* up when he trusted the wrong people, and turned off his thoughts about the CCP when the chinese money was there, ...came back to bite him in the butt..
But right now Americans are buying the china valiant comics mostly unaware of the politics behind DMG, and how it is controlled by the CCP even though they have regional offices they may work out of here..
They are giving money to the CCP via the bloodshot movie, Americans paid to watch that in various forms, it's in their consciousness the same way the marvel movies and others are..
It's just one layer or even one thread in the tapestry of the CCPs plans for global domination

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valiantdude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:11:37 pm But right now Americans are buying the china valiant comics mostly unaware of the politics behind DMG, and how it is controlled by the CCP even though they have regional offices they may work out of here
One thing we are very aware of and discuss at great length is the politics at Valiant. :thumb:

I do get what you are saying, that Valiant is now part of the larger ChiCom machine, all working to the ultimate goal of advancing Chinese interests internationally, often at the expense of America and against her better interest. It is kind of like how, when my sister buys weed from some skeezy street dealer, she is not thinking how that money she gave to that sketchy dude ultimately funds cartels and drug wars and sex trafficking all across the Americas.

So... to advance the ChiCom, anti-American agenda, DMG has hired editors who run their mouths on social media about how they hate America. That fits.
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Chiclo..exactly!, you totally get it..
And how just one little thread of pushback from a major american Corp that can compete with China at all (disney),because they are so massive as a company, manifests in the small comic industry as what you are seeing in the marvel books that I am pointing out..
So Ducking crazy!!!

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This is some flat earther crap here... Whoa.

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Okay.. how? Explain, a vague reference to a disproven theory, doesn't really work here.. we know dmg is the ccp, that's a fact.... what's to disprove?

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valiantdude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:23:31 pm That graphic didn't really show anything correlating I'm sorry
That was, ironically, my point in posting the graphic. There is no correlation beyond the artist liberty. You saw a panel of Iron Man and invented a correlation.
valiantdude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:23:31 pmIt's one of the many avenues into the american consciousness
This is ridiculous, man. I mean, don't get me wrong - on a fundamental level I agree with you that the China government is manipulative and has a global agenda focused on themselves.

But again the connection you are making.... your premise would be better served even if you focused on Russia sewing discord with news manipulation and maybe even sleeper agents as citizens sewing political discord. And I'd believe that as a rational possibility. But focusing on Valiant comics as a Chinese manipulation tactic and then reinforcing it by saying that you have the ability to see patterns that we don't is textbook psychosis.
lorddunlow wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:58:08 pm This is some flat earther crap here... Whoa.
Exactly. I mean - I would even bend so far as to say that maybe Valiant comics might come under Chineese censorship if they published something that painted China negatively.

But this whole thread is a series of non-connections woven mentally by a seamstress who is making a quilt as he sees it for whatever reason. And look at the thread drift. It began as "Marvel is copying Valiant for market supremacy" and evolved into "China controls Valiant to permeate the American zeitgeist" - you know... to control it for all of the 20 people left of Valiant's readership.


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