Acclaim Rai & The Mother God 1-3. Any info?

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Acclaim Rai & The Mother God 1-3. Any info?

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Sonicdan posted this on FB, but I meant to post this here when I received the original art. He beat me to it, but I’d like to tap into this source as well. Any info on this unpublished Acclaim series. I could find nothing. Auctions are on HA.com.

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Dave Ross and Tim Dzon Rai and Mother God #3 Unpublished Cover Original Art (Acclaim/Valiant, 1995). As the VH1 Universe was winding down, and before Acclaim launched the VH2 Universe, this proposed series was started but never published. Created in ink over graphite on Valiant Bristol board, with an image size of 11" x 16.5". After-the-fact recreations of the logo, cover dressing, and UPC box was created on a printer and affixed directly to the Bristol board. In Excellent condition.

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Wow...STILL FINDING NEW STUFF..I'm dumbfounded it's an amazing lost chapter..wow..

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:o

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Oh my, it’s full of stars.

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this is something that Bob Layton would know about for sure.. can anyone contact him?

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It's not something that was known when this was compiled: http://valiantarchive.com/valiant/never ... s-vh-1.php

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As per FB, Layton does not know what it is.

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It looks like it would take place after that 2 or 3 parter with solar if it was released.But i cant remember what it was called. :!:
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It was Destroyer#0 nevermind.
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From FB:

Here is the David Ross update:

Hi Jake,


Thanks for this link, and for your interest!

It’s great to see those pieces again and yes, I was very happy at how they turned out.

I remember being sent a color proof of the first cover, and now that you have reminded me of the project, I will definitely go digging through my files and see what I can find.


During that period of time I was winding down my interior work with Valiant while still doing a series of cover pieces for both Magnus and Rai. Bob was liking the results and asked me to do this series of three covers. I thought it would be fun to hook up with Tim Dzon, my Inker from Avengers West Coast to ink the covers. He was available and did a beautiful job on them (in my humble opinion).

As far as your other questions go, I’m afraid I can’t be much help.

I was working freelance out of Toronto, Canada and only visited the NY office occasionally. I remember being disappointed at hearing of the series cancellation but have no recollection of any details beyond that.

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Wow, congrats on the OA! :thumb:

Am I the only one thinking "Rai and MotherGod" is/would have been a rather odd title?

Of course, towards the end of the VH-1 era a lot of odd stories were published but this one? Obadiah siding with MotherGod would have only made sense if Ax had have successfully manipulated/possessed Obadiah at the end of the main (Rai) series. In the MRF issues dated to AUG/SEP (1995), Takashi is seeking revenge on Obadiah in 1-A's former deep sea base under the ocean....which is pretty much the opposite to fighting (with) MotherGod in space. :?

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I don't know, this seems like it has all the markings of a Mark Hoffman level forgery, tbh. It seems like an unbelievably convenient find, desirable to hardcore collectors, but strangely unheard of until now.

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mateo107 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:18:48 pm I don't know, this seems like it has all the markings of a Mark Hoffman level forgery, tbh. It seems like an unbelievably convenient find, desirable to hardcore collectors, but strangely unheard of until now.
These were verified by the artist, sold for a few hundred each, and drawn on the same Valiant artboard from 25-ish years ago. No way are they forgeries. Besides everyone knows Pre-Unity counterfeits is where the real action is!
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Not to mention the prices they sold for would mean the artist lost money!

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Guys...someone asked both bob layton, and david ross personally, and was given david Ross's contact from bob.. david ross the artist confirmed its real.. the pre unity counterfeit story has still yet to be fully told


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