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Britannia #4 Discussion

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Satisfied with the ending, great book! Such a fantastic series, can't wait to see if there will be more!

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:Satisfied with the ending, great book! Such a fantastic series, can't wait to see if there will be more!
I would agree, a pretty good wrap up. Listening to VCR now... (I miss Chris' spoiler pause song :lol: )

To me, wyrd = ward. Like the wards Shan places on things...

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jmatt wrote:To me, wyrd = ward. Like the wards Shan places on things...
Good point --- these ancient beings that respond to Shan or Punk Mambo or the creatures from Wrath of the Eternal Warrior were clearly around during the Britannia times... and even thousands of years earlier in Celtic times. It makes sense that the "science" of the mysticism has always been there. It has just changed names (or accents).

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The wyrd woman said Orkus came from the Dark Side. Are we to assume that she is talking about the Deadside?
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Keith wrote:The wyrd woman said Orkus came from the Dark Side. Are we to assume that she is talking about the Deadside?
That's what I got from it. She may not have a real name for it, or it hadn't been named just yet, but I think the reference is the same.
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Decent finish to this mini and I'm glad there's another in the pipeline. Whilst this didn't blow me away, I like the fact that Valiant take risks on interesting concepts. Ryp's art was top quality so hopefully they keep this team together as they do with Divinity.

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It wasn't a mind blowing wrap up but satisfying none the less, would like to see more. The art was stellar and I loved all the attention to detail and historical fact.

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QUARTZ wrote:It wasn't a mind blowing wrap up but satisfying none the less, would like to see more. The art was stellar and I loved all the attention to detail and historical fact.
That's one of my favourite elements of this mini too - all the rich historical detail. And more specifically, it's historical detail that doesn't have to be historically accurate to be appreciated.., it's all woven into the tapestry of this fictional story in a manner that enhances the reading experience. Moreso if you're also familiar with those historical details too - at least for me it was.
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I thought this was a strong wrap up to the mini

It was a satisfying self contained story. It will be cool at some point to see this story and these characters get woven into the larger fabric of the universe but I'm good with it not at this point

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Good stuff. Nothing to be OMGOMG but definitely a solid read until the end. Ork(c)us could be a red demon with a mace (D&D geekness syndrome) but that HPL-like "stuff" was cool.
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Just now catching up on the series, so actually a question about Britannia #3: Did anyone notice the dinosaur skulls on the wall in Eryn's hut? It would seem there is at least some connection to the Faraway there.

As others have said, I took Darkside to equal the Deadside. Orkus seems like the kind of being that would come from there, and I doubt Valiant wants to muddy up the mythology there any further than it already is.

Finally, does Bodmall's powers resemble the Geomancer's and if so, is she the Geomancer of that time period or does something for Eternal Warrior's side of things conflict with that? We know Gilad was active in fighting with the Visigoths some 350 years after this, can't think of anything in this era. And the powers seem so related to plants and the earth (the old woman who gives her power to Bodmall is covered in moss and vines) that the imagery seems to back this up.

So, if she is the Geomancer, what is the "sister wyrd" that the Vestal Virgins wield? The power of life? Or just fire as a "sister" to the earth, like the four elements? Rubria as Chief Vestal could be a being similar to a Geomancer but representing some other power that is "personified" in worship of Vesta. I don't think the "Houses" from Eternal Warrior are going to play any further role in the universe so this could be a move towards putting something else in there to expand the mythology of the universe past just Geomancers.

Anyway, just some thoughts, I am catching up on some older books I had passed over, so if anything I said here has been explored further in some other books I'd be glad to hear it.

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I really liked this mini and I am glad to hear that they are moving forward with another. It will be interesting to see how this relates to the VEI universe as a whole later on down the line. I really liked the fact that they didn't try to force the story to fit in with the VEI universe as it currently stands.

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Baramos wrote:Just now catching up on the series, so actually a question about Britannia #3: Did anyone notice the dinosaur skulls on the wall in Eryn's hut? It would seem there is at least some connection to the Faraway there.

As others have said, I took Darkside to equal the Deadside. Orkus seems like the kind of being that would come from there, and I doubt Valiant wants to muddy up the mythology there any further than it already is.

Finally, does Bodmall's powers resemble the Geomancer's and if so, is she the Geomancer of that time period or does something for Eternal Warrior's side of things conflict with that? We know Gilad was active in fighting with the Visigoths some 350 years after this, can't think of anything in this era. And the powers seem so related to plants and the earth (the old woman who gives her power to Bodmall is covered in moss and vines) that the imagery seems to back this up.

So, if she is the Geomancer, what is the "sister wyrd" that the Vestal Virgins wield? The power of life? Or just fire as a "sister" to the earth, like the four elements? Rubria as Chief Vestal could be a being similar to a Geomancer but representing some other power that is "personified" in worship of Vesta. I don't think the "Houses" from Eternal Warrior are going to play any further role in the universe so this could be a move towards putting something else in there to expand the mythology of the universe past just Geomancers.

Anyway, just some thoughts, I am catching up on some older books I had passed over, so if anything I said here has been explored further in some other books I'd be glad to hear it.

Looking forward to seeing Axia back in 2017.
As the post below yours says, I don't think the story seems too closely tied with the rest of the VU yet, so I'm wondering if you're trying to find meaning in the comic (relating to Bodmall's powers and the nature magic) that simply isn't there? Might be for all I know o/c and that's the fun of speculation, but I'll need a little more convincing before I can start considering those ideas :lol:

I definitely noticed the dinosaur skulls however, and did wonder how they could have come to be there :hm:

I also guessed that the 'Dark Side' may have been a reference to the Deadside. Like someone suggested it could be possible back in that time period that there simply wasn't a suitable expression for a place outside 'reality' and she just described it in her own way. The Saxons weren't a well educated bunch after all :lol: Or maybe that was the regional name at that time for the Deadside, same as how the Deadside could theoretically be named something else in the 4001U as language and knowledges develops and changes.
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Shadowman99 wrote:
Baramos wrote:Just now catching up on the series, so actually a question about Britannia #3: Did anyone notice the dinosaur skulls on the wall in Eryn's hut? It would seem there is at least some connection to the Faraway there.

As others have said, I took Darkside to equal the Deadside. Orkus seems like the kind of being that would come from there, and I doubt Valiant wants to muddy up the mythology there any further than it already is.

Finally, does Bodmall's powers resemble the Geomancer's and if so, is she the Geomancer of that time period or does something for Eternal Warrior's side of things conflict with that? We know Gilad was active in fighting with the Visigoths some 350 years after this, can't think of anything in this era. And the powers seem so related to plants and the earth (the old woman who gives her power to Bodmall is covered in moss and vines) that the imagery seems to back this up.

So, if she is the Geomancer, what is the "sister wyrd" that the Vestal Virgins wield? The power of life? Or just fire as a "sister" to the earth, like the four elements? Rubria as Chief Vestal could be a being similar to a Geomancer but representing some other power that is "personified" in worship of Vesta. I don't think the "Houses" from Eternal Warrior are going to play any further role in the universe so this could be a move towards putting something else in there to expand the mythology of the universe past just Geomancers.

Anyway, just some thoughts, I am catching up on some older books I had passed over, so if anything I said here has been explored further in some other books I'd be glad to hear it.

Looking forward to seeing Axia back in 2017.
As the post below yours says, I don't think the story seems too closely tied with the rest of the VU yet, so I'm wondering if you're trying to find meaning in the comic (relating to Bodmall's powers and the nature magic) that simply isn't there? Might be for all I know o/c and that's the fun of speculation, but I'll need a little more convincing before I can start considering those ideas :lol:

I definitely noticed the dinosaur skulls however, and did wonder how they could have come to be there :hm:

I also guessed that the 'Dark Side' may have been a reference to the Deadside. Like someone suggested it could be possible back in that time period that there simply wasn't a suitable expression for a place outside 'reality' and she just described it in her own way. The Saxons weren't a well educated bunch after all :lol: Or maybe that was the regional name at that time for the Deadside, same as how the Deadside could theoretically be named something else in the 4001U as language and knowledges develops and changes.
Excellent points, I suppose it could all be newly formulated mythology that is now being added to the universe. The only reason I assume everything is connected is I remember back when Divinity came out, for some reason, and I don't know if it was just my own expectations or the way Valiant marketed it, but I thought it was going to be pretty much entirely disconnected from the rest of the Valiant universe...and then Divinity ended up fighting Unity! So now I guess I expect everything to be connected.

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I finally got around to reading the last two issues of this mini. A really good story, that was beautifully rendered. Looking forward to the next one this week.. :thumb:
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