Harbinger Wars II #3 Discussion

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Re: Harbinger Wars II #3 Discussion

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DirtbagSailor wrote:Yes, I am still a bit confused about how the historically compassionate and empathetic Livewire, who is risking everything to save the lives a of a few young psiots, somehow is "ok" with potentially devastating humanity with her actions and also with sending in Bloodshot to slaughter many individuals (see also people) on the Loveboat who she likely has a connection to via Unity.

Hell, even if she didn't have a connection, her complicit (direct) role in this level of bloodshed seems to be WAAAAAY out of character for her.
I hope BS has no recollection of these events ala his time in PRS - however I thought the ability to control him was removed?

I 100% agree, I don't get why Livewire would act so out of character, it makes no sense.

Ninjak vs The Valiant Universe is more plausible as being in-continuity than this right now...

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Just keeps getting WORSE!!!!! facepalm :censored:
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This may be the worst thing that I have read from modern Valiant.

Who are we supposed to be rooting for? Everyone is thoroughly unlikeable, with the possible exception of Ninjak.

I don't want to read about these versions of Livewire, Bloodshot, and Charlie Palmer. All of whom I have really enjoyed in the past.
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Kind of a tough read for a big H.A.R.D. Corps fan. Palmer seems like a straight up villain now rather than someone pressed into doing morally ambiguous things for either a greater good or to keep his head from exploding. He doesn't even seem like a strong or competent villain. Even Grave Dog never seemed this bad.

I'm really disappointed at how the Corps is now Valiant's version of Hydra. Maybe with more psiots activated there will be a reason to bring back the team but with their sanity in tact.

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Spylocke wrote:Kind of a tough read for a big H.A.R.D. Corps fan. Palmer seems like a straight up villain now rather than someone pressed into doing morally ambiguous things for either a greater good or to keep his head from exploding. He doesn't even seem like a strong or competent villain. Even Grave Dog never seemed this bad.

I'm really disappointed at how the Corps is now Valiant's version of Hydra. Maybe with more psiots activated there will be a reason to bring back the team but with their sanity in tact.
Exactly!

I'm a big H.A.R.D. Corps fan too.

I hate the way that Charlie and the Corps are being portrayed. :cry:
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Re: Harbinger Wars II #3 Discussion

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Big Red wrote:
Spylocke wrote:Kind of a tough read for a big H.A.R.D. Corps fan. Palmer seems like a straight up villain now rather than someone pressed into doing morally ambiguous things for either a greater good or to keep his head from exploding. He doesn't even seem like a strong or competent villain. Even Grave Dog never seemed this bad.

I'm really disappointed at how the Corps is now Valiant's version of Hydra. Maybe with more psiots activated there will be a reason to bring back the team but with their sanity in tact.
Exactly!

I'm a big H.A.R.D. Corps fan too.

I hate the way that Charlie and the Corps are being portrayed. :cry:
BIG +1 to that! :mad:
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