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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:33:32 pm 
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First!

Slightly underwhelmed at the direction this took. No real fight to speak of they just kinda went with the guy in the ship all like "oh okay sounds good let's do this." I like the set up, it's interesting at the very least, but I'm really not invested in what's going on at the same time. It's kinda a weird thing.

Art has some wonky panels that look funky like an indie book, colors aren't super inspiring either. I'm glad they announced Tomas Giorello coming back to the book for #23.

7/10

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:47:17 pm 
Is it Dee-no or Die-no? Dunno.
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The artwork looks awesome and is nothing like an indie book. Andrew Dalhouse does the colors and he's as consistent and as great as ever. What are you talking about?!

I have problems with some of the direction DMG is taking but I really wonder what would make some of you guys happy. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:44:31 pm 
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kinggirlfriend wrote:
The artwork looks awesome and is nothing like an indie book. Andrew Dalhouse does the colors and he's as consistent and as great as ever. What are you talking about?!

I have problems with some of the direction DMG is taking but I really wonder what would make some of you guys happy. :roll:


I'm not unhappy. 7/10 with some mild criticism means I'm enjoying it enough it's just not excellent.. I can take screen shots of the problem panels that look stiff/wonky...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:34:24 pm 
Just jumpin' through time arcs, that's all.
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I liked this issue. 7/10 is fair. I liked the art. I like the story. And I like re visitung camp and the eden stuff that was set up so long ago. One of my big beefs is valiant set a bunch of stuff up but rarly re visit it so Im very happy to see them bring this into the fold. The woman trust aric so I understand this mission. Makes sence to me. Its a comic you cant expect 100% logic nor hindsight. Why dont they do this? how come that.
I liked camps words from the book. I hope for a big epic fight but some how I think its not going to happen which kinda takes away from an actul action comic. Remember Gilad and his choppy chop chop now thats action. Aric hasnt been good for a long wile. This issue is the best in a wile but if action doesnt happen or dmg doesnt stick the landing. Its for not and I'll be *SQUEE*. Dmg sucks royally and not being religious Ive started praying to god some how they learn to produce comics because Im at a point the few comics I do get will get less and less. So at the end of my rope.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:21:43 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:46:38 am 
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otomo wrote:
No real fight to speak of

There was ~4 pages of fight scenes. Why isn't that good enough on a second issue of a four issue arc, when the people fighting eachother aren't even enemies.

I also thought the art was incredible. Ryp is a god among men, and pretty much any colorist makes his artwork pop off the page. It's not 10/10 perfect, but it's a lot of fun, and I like all of the characters. It's a nice return to form after the absolute slog that was four months of Barbarians.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:17:54 am 
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I don't know, I actually liked this one quite a bit...Sure, it's not a 10/10, but I'd score it about an 8

It was a good follow up to the last events of Eternity, and I actually like that they are bringing in other characters to the events of Eternity instead of keeping it contained solely to Divinity.

I also like how with New Eden and Camp (or Cartographer now) we possibly have a whole new realm and type of re-occurring Villain for the Valiant U. Really hoping they don't kill him off as with his abilities and ruling over New Eden, we have a whole villain type missing from Valiant before. We've barely even touched on his motivations, but he seems to be obsessed with knowledge, or forbidden knowledge, to map out and understand all aspects of reality and existence, and he's definitely a fanatic. It's interesting though that even though he now has power of his own, he's still obsessed with what he views as "gods", like those from the Unknown or Divinity. It's interesting because he's technically been touched by the Unknown now also, but still views himself as a pretender and raises all others from the unknown on a pedestal. Wonder what happens when he realizes he's equally gifted now, but in different ways to Divinity.

Also curious who the team is moving in on Capshaw. For some reason they remind me of insects/flies, and something about their masks and symbols on their suits remind me of Nurgle Marines from Warhammer 40K. Do they work for Camp? Or are they something else entirely?

Really interested in this new arc, probably the best one for the new X-O book since the original 12 issues.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:03:06 pm 
Mmm, I was drooling over Cooshie tonight.
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Great issue. Great arc. Super art! I'm really loving this book again.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:00:56 am 
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Yep, I enjoyed this issue quite a bit too. Agree with the sentiments above regarding David Camp/ Cartographer. He is developing into a very interesting new villain character. Although, he does seem to take himself a little too seriously.

Loved the artwork as well, I don’t understand how some people don’t like Ryp!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:31:27 am 
Just jumpin' through time arcs, that's all.
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Best issue for a while. Interesting to see how Kindt loops things back to Eternity.

Is Atom-13 a kind of Magnus Robot Fighter character?

Atom-13’s wife looks like a Trinity Angel :hm: She spoke in binary, is she a robot?

“Identity is fluid”.... hmmmmm not sure if this was identity politics creeping in but let’s not dwell.

I thought the 4 dudes that came in at the end of the book could have been the Armorines? :?

I don’t think Dalhouse is a good match up for Ryp’s art, it makes it look too ‘clean’ IMO

3.75/5 - Moving in the right direction again, we need Kindt to stick the landing on this arc and get momentum back in the book :hope:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:05:54 pm 
Just jumpin' through time arcs, that's all.
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grendeljd wrote:
If anyone would like to hear our OTV:VCR podcast discussing/reviewing this issue [& Shadowman [2018] #8], please follow the link;

http://onlythevaliant.com/episodes/vcr183/

Thanks to any who listen in :thumb:


Ps to the ‘OTV-ers’, just started a re-read of Divinity and the phrase ‘time is not absolute’ appears there too (issue #1) so it’s not a recent inclusion from Kindt.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:14:23 am 
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TheFerg714 wrote:
otomo wrote:
No real fight to speak of

It's a nice return to form after the absolute slog that was four months of Barbarians.

I agree, I wasn't a fan of that arc, it really should have been one issue of flashback. I think 7/10 is fair for the new issue, not a lot going on, lots of setup, but I'm not a huge fan of the Divinity stuff.


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