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Brilliant.

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SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. :cloud9:

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Great issue!
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sonicdan wrote:Great issue!
Is Lord Vine dead or is he gonna crawl out of that wreckage to *SQUEE* *SQUEE* up?
I think he's dead, like Flamingo dead not BetaMax dead.

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NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo! He was one of my favorite characters! Can't Toyo just re-spawn him?

I was really hoping for an LV-99 / Mecha Major buddy cop book where they have to travel across the country together and get in adventures. :cry: :wink:

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kinggirlfriend wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo! He was one of my favorite characters! Can't Toyo just re-spawn him?

I was really hoping for an LV-99 / Mecha Major buddy cop book where they have to travel across the country together and get in adventures. :cry: :wink:
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I really enjoyed this issue. I didnt like the 6.00 price tag but thats the cost of good content.
If only DMG would let Dysart have free reign on wrighting their comics.
My favorite part was angela killing the brain guy and kozols reaction.
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...and then THIS happened! :lol:

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DirtbagSailor wrote:...and then THIS happened! :lol:

OTV: VCR.

Don’t even pretend that you don’t want to listen... :thumb:

http://onlythevaliant.com/episodes/vcr209/
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nonplayer wrote:I really enjoyed this issue. I didnt like the 6.00 price tag but thats the cost of good content.
If only DMG would let Dysart have free reign on wrighting their comics.
My favorite part was angela killing the brain guy and kozols reaction.
6 out of 5 cant wait for moretaimos
Only 5 dollars, but we also got more pages for that price, so I'm cool with that.

I'm really enjoying this as well. Not liking the title for next issue's story, "The Death of Mech Major," but hopefully that just means the name is dead, leaving only Sunlight on Snow.

Theories on Harada's child? Think it's an entirely new character, or someone we've seen already?
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kjjohanson wrote:Theories on Harada's child? Think it's an entirely new character, or someone we've seen already?
Harada’s son is PETE! :o

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DirtbagSailor wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:Theories on Harada's child? Think it's an entirely new character, or someone we've seen already?
Harada’s son is PETE! :o
I assume this is meant as a joke. Either way, Harada's child would have been born in the early '70s (and probably would have some Asian features) which rules out Pete. But it's not impossible that Pete could be Harada's grandchild.
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Maybe the Visitor is Harada's child.
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Another 5/5 issue. I read Doomsday Clock then LADOTH, this is the comic book medium at its best IMO. Gonna read BS Rising Spirit #7 next just to go back to the opposite end of the scale! :P

Dysart smashes it again in this issue, interesting plot twists and fascinating characters. I hope LV99 isn’t dead as of Harada lives on in some form then presumably he will too, he’s too good a character to kill off, very menacing. Hope he gets let loose on the rest of the Valiant U.

Excellent art too, can’t fault this book 5/5 :thumb:

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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Another 5/5 issue. I read Doomsday Clock then LADOTH, this is the comic book medium at its best IMO. Gonna read BS Rising Spirit #7 next just to go back to the opposite end of the scale! :P

Dysart smashes it again in this issue, interesting plot twists and fascinating characters. I hope LV99 isn’t dead as of Harada lives on in some form then presumably he will too, he’s too good a character to kill off, very menacing. Hope he gets let loose on the rest of the Valiant U.

Excellent art too, can’t fault this book 5/5 :thumb:
It's odd, because LV-99 is one of the few characters that I don't think it makes a huge difference to kill off.
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kjjohanson wrote:
Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Another 5/5 issue. I read Doomsday Clock then LADOTH, this is the comic book medium at its best IMO. Gonna read BS Rising Spirit #7 next just to go back to the opposite end of the scale! :P

Dysart smashes it again in this issue, interesting plot twists and fascinating characters. I hope LV99 isn’t dead as of Harada lives on in some form then presumably he will too, he’s too good a character to kill off, very menacing. Hope he gets let loose on the rest of the Valiant U.

Excellent art too, can’t fault this book 5/5 :thumb:
It's odd, because LV-99 is one of the few characters that I don't think it makes a huge difference to kill off.
There’s something about that character which I think has potential, when he’s sitting in the cell eating gorilla :o

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Haven't listened to the podcast yet, so this is just based on the thread.

I feel like everyone here gives this book credit for being WAY smarter than it is. The main storyline this issue is fine, but it is just your run-of-the-mill "Students have lost their teacher and have to find a way to fight on their own" plot. This issue was actually better than the previous from that point of view because no Harada. He is not a sympathetic character. He's a sociopath that bumbles his evil plots more often than not.

Plus, I just do not enjoy Dysart's writing style; plotting, sure, but his dialogue drives me nuts. Kozol may as well be twirling his evil villain mustache with every line of terrible dialogue he suddenly blurts out. And then there's Ingrid saying "That makes it just you and I." I don't think that is grammatically correct; she wouldn't say, "That makes it just I." I do know it sure as hell pulled me out of the story for a bit to consider it because it was so awkward.

And while I generally enjoyed the Empty Man story, I did not like Yapur's art at all. Faces in particular seemed excessively photo-referenced or lightboxed to the point of looking plastic.

I don't begrudge anyone for digging on this, I just find the universal adoration of LaDoTH here could use a critical (if very unpopular) opinion offset once in a while.
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SwiftMann wrote:And then there's Ingrid saying "That makes it just you and I." I don't think that is grammatically correct; she wouldn't say, "That makes it just I." I do know it sure as hell pulled me out of the story for a bit to consider it because it was so awkward.
I noticed this s well, but it doesn't bother me when a character says it because people don't always speak with perfect grammar. But it is less common for people to substitute "I" when "me" is correct, than vice versa.
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kjjohanson wrote:
SwiftMann wrote:And then there's Ingrid saying "That makes it just you and I." I don't think that is grammatically correct; she wouldn't say, "That makes it just I." I do know it sure as hell pulled me out of the story for a bit to consider it because it was so awkward.
I noticed this s well, but it doesn't bother me when a character says it because people don't always speak with perfect grammar. But it is less common for people to substitute "I" when "me" is correct, than vice versa.
Agreed that people often overcorrect. I just wouldn't expect Ingrid to be one of those people. But I wouldn't have expected her send-off for LV-99 to be (probably not exact quote), "...you magnificent *SQUEE*." Like I said, the dialogue in this series is really bothering me.
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SwiftMann wrote:Haven't listened to the podcast yet, so this is just based on the thread.

I feel like everyone here gives this book credit for being WAY smarter than it is. The main storyline this issue is fine, but it is just your run-of-the-mill "Students have lost their teacher and have to find a way to fight on their own" plot. This issue was actually better than the previous from that point of view because no Harada. He is not a sympathetic character. He's a sociopath that bumbles his evil plots more often than not.

:lol: Plus, I just do not enjoy Dysart's writing style; plotting, sure, but his dialogue drives me nuts. Kozol may as well be twirling his evil villain mustache with every line of terrible dialogue he suddenly blurts out. And then there's Ingrid saying "That makes it just you and I." I don't think that is grammatically correct; she wouldn't say, "That makes it just I." I do know it sure as hell pulled me out of the story for a bit to consider it because it was so awkward.

And while I generally enjoyed the Empty Man story, I did not like Yapur's art at all. Faces in particular seemed excessively photo-referenced or lightboxed to the point of looking plastic.

I don't begrudge anyone for digging on this, I just find the universal adoration of LaDoTH here could use a critical (if very unpopular) opinion offset once in a while.
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kjjohanson wrote:It's odd, because LV-99 is one of the few characters that I don't think it makes a huge difference to kill off.
He doesn't affect the plot much but he has so much character! More character than some of the recent newer characters like War-Mother or any of the Psi-Lords. He leaps off the page and has grand dialogue. What's not to love?

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kinggirlfriend wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:It's odd, because LV-99 is one of the few characters that I don't think it makes a huge difference to kill off.
He doesn't affect the plot much but he has so much character! More character than some of the recent newer characters like War-Mother or any of the Psi-Lords. He leaps off the page and has grand dialogue. What's not to love?
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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
SwiftMann wrote:Haven't listened to the podcast yet, so this is just based on the thread.

I feel like everyone here gives this book credit for being WAY smarter than it is. The main storyline this issue is fine, but it is just your run-of-the-mill "Students have lost their teacher and have to find a way to fight on their own" plot. This issue was actually better than the previous from that point of view because no Harada. He is not a sympathetic character. He's a sociopath that bumbles his evil plots more often than not.

:lol: Plus, I just do not enjoy Dysart's writing style; plotting, sure, but his dialogue drives me nuts. Kozol may as well be twirling his evil villain mustache with every line of terrible dialogue he suddenly blurts out. And then there's Ingrid saying "That makes it just you and I." I don't think that is grammatically correct; she wouldn't say, "That makes it just I." I do know it sure as hell pulled me out of the story for a bit to consider it because it was so awkward.

And while I generally enjoyed the Empty Man story, I did not like Yapur's art at all. Faces in particular seemed excessively photo-referenced or lightboxed to the point of looking plastic.

I don't begrudge anyone for digging on this, I just find the universal adoration of LaDoTH here could use a critical (if very unpopular) opinion offset once in a while.
If you’re not keen on LADOTH then wait til you read Bloodshot Rising Spirit, you’re gonna lose your mind!! :P :lol:
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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
SwiftMann wrote:Haven't listened to the podcast yet, so this is just based on the thread.

I feel like everyone here gives this book credit for being WAY smarter than it is. The main storyline this issue is fine, but it is just your run-of-the-mill "Students have lost their teacher and have to find a way to fight on their own" plot. This issue was actually better than the previous from that point of view because no Harada. He is not a sympathetic character. He's a sociopath that bumbles his evil plots more often than not.

:lol: Plus, I just do not enjoy Dysart's writing style; plotting, sure, but his dialogue drives me nuts. Kozol may as well be twirling his evil villain mustache with every line of terrible dialogue he suddenly blurts out. And then there's Ingrid saying "That makes it just you and I." I don't think that is grammatically correct; she wouldn't say, "That makes it just I." I do know it sure as hell pulled me out of the story for a bit to consider it because it was so awkward.

And while I generally enjoyed the Empty Man story, I did not like Yapur's art at all. Faces in particular seemed excessively photo-referenced or lightboxed to the point of looking plastic.

I don't begrudge anyone for digging on this, I just find the universal adoration of LaDoTH here could use a critical (if very unpopular) opinion offset once in a while.
If you’re not keen on LADOTH then wait til you read Bloodshot Rising Spirit, you’re gonna lose your mind!! :P :lol:
:lol: :lol:

Rising Spirit may be the worst comic published in the last five years. And I loved Swierczynski's run and Reborn.
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I agree about some of the dialogue being a bit off, still 4/5 for me. :clap:
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