Top 50 artists and Top 50 writers per CBR

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:52:02 am

BWS is #34 on top artists list. No Jim Shooter?

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co ... ster-list/

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co ... ster-list/

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:26:49 am

Its a poor set of lists.

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:53:24 am

No Rob Liefeld or Fabian Nicieza?! -- This list isbull****!!!!!

steverino · Post by **steverino** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:26:43 pm

Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:28:19 pm

The writers one isnt that bad, but the art has Quitely at # 2, JH Williams # 3 and Stuart Immomen at # 17 above Eisner, Bolland, Sienkiweicz, Steranko and a whole list of incredible artists, so i think we can safely say they pulled most of these from a hat

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:40:02 pm

Draco wrote:The writers one isnt that bad, but the art has Quitely at # 2, JH Williams # 3 and Stuart Immomen at # 17 above Eisner, Bolland, Sienkiweicz, Steranko and a whole list of incredible artists, so i think we can safely say they pulled most of these from a hat

They need to change hats. LOL

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:19:30 pm

steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.

He is the best writer. Period.

steverino · Post by **steverino** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:44:33 pm

Cyberstrike wrote:
steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.
He is the best writer. Period.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. Although many believe the his writing skills are top notch, I've never enjoyed a single storyline he's ever produced, despite his reputation. But his writing is but just one of my problems with Alan Moore. My biggest problem is his disdain towards his fans and the comic industry. I cannot see how someone could shun the people that helped make him great. And shun he does and does often.

In my opinion, you cannot possibly be good at anything and hate what you are doing or hate the people you are doing it for. Thus, his writing and his very name leaves a bad taste in my mouth and anything he produces is a dark cloud over the industry at large.

If you want to be a fan of his and put him and/or his work up on a pedestal, by all means, be my guest. But don't expect him to do anything of the like for you.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:36:00 pm

Alan Moore is indeed excellent. Not sure about him being number 1, but it's all subjective. Shooter being off the list is weird. Eisner being ranked so low is offensive.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:16:48 pm

It's not a list of who is the greatest. It's a list of favourites.

I agree with Draco, the artists one is all over the place... but at least Liefeld aint there

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:31:09 pm

ian_house wrote:It's not a list of who is the greatest. It's a list of favourites.

I agree with Draco, the artists one is all over the place... but at least Liefeld aint there

Shut Your Mouth! - He is the best foot artist --- EVER!!!!

OmenSpirits.com · Post by **OmenSpirits.com** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:40:47 pm

steverino wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.
In my opinion, you cannot possibly be good at anything and hate what you are doing or hate the people you are doing it for.

John. Buscema.

He HATED drawing super heroes.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:59:26 pm

BruceReville wrote:
ian_house wrote:It's not a list of who is the greatest. It's a list of favourites.

I agree with Draco, the artists one is all over the place... but at least Liefeld aint there
Shut Your Mouth! - He is the best foot artist --- EVER!!!!

I want to prove you wrong but I can't find any feet that Liefeld drew to show how horribly he draws them.

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:06:52 pm

Chiclo wrote:
BruceReville wrote:
ian_house wrote:It's not a list of who is the greatest. It's a list of favourites.

I agree with Draco, the artists one is all over the place... but at least Liefeld aint there
Shut Your Mouth! - He is the best foot artist --- EVER!!!!
I want to prove you wrong but I can't find any feet that Liefeld drew to show how horribly he draws them.

His feet drawings are so awesome that he purposely hides them so noone else can copy them!

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:44:05 pm

Moore is over rated for sure

steverino · Post by **steverino** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:04:44 pm

BruceReville wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
BruceReville wrote:
ian_house wrote:It's not a list of who is the greatest. It's a list of favourites.

I agree with Draco, the artists one is all over the place... but at least Liefeld aint there
Shut Your Mouth! - He is the best foot artist --- EVER!!!!
I want to prove you wrong but I can't find any feet that Liefeld drew to show how horribly he draws them.
His feet drawings are so awesome that he purposely hides them so noone else can copy them!

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:08:38 pm

BruceReville wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
BruceReville wrote:
ian_house wrote:It's not a list of who is the greatest. It's a list of favourites.

I agree with Draco, the artists one is all over the place... but at least Liefeld aint there
Shut Your Mouth! - He is the best foot artist --- EVER!!!!
I want to prove you wrong but I can't find any feet that Liefeld drew to show how horribly he draws them.
His feet drawings are so awesome that he purposely hides them so noone else can copy them!

That's just crazy enough that it might work!

steverino · Post by **steverino** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:23:31 pm

OmenSpirits.com wrote:
steverino wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.
In my opinion, you cannot possibly be good at anything and hate what you are doing or hate the people you are doing it for.

John. Buscema.

He HATED drawing super heroes.

True, but he was a true professional. And his art on many of those Conan books, whether he liked drawing superheroes or not, was phenomenal!

OmenSpirits.com · Post by **OmenSpirits.com** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:27:54 pm

steverino wrote:
OmenSpirits.com wrote:
steverino wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.
In my opinion, you cannot possibly be good at anything and hate what you are doing or hate the people you are doing it for.

John. Buscema.

He HATED drawing super heroes.
True, but he was a true professional. And his art on many of those Conan books, whether he liked drawing superheroes or not, was phenomenal!

He liked conan & hated Spider-man (thought it was the stupidest idea for a character and design).

And I agree, John Buscema is GOD!

No one can touch is conan!

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:53:09 am

OmenSpirits.com wrote:
steverino wrote:
OmenSpirits.com wrote:
steverino wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.
In my opinion, you cannot possibly be good at anything and hate what you are doing or hate the people you are doing it for.

John. Buscema.

He HATED drawing super heroes.
True, but he was a true professional. And his art on many of those Conan books, whether he liked drawing superheroes or not, was phenomenal!
He liked conan & hated Spider-man (thought it was the stupidest idea for a character and design).

And I agree, John Buscema is GOD!

No one can touch is conan!

I wouldn't advise trying to touch anyones Conan... it's a pretty dangerous game.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:13:05 am

steverino wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
steverino wrote:Bullsh!t indeed. Alan Moore is #1. He shouldn't have even made the top 1000.
He is the best writer. Period.
I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. Although many believe the his writing skills are top notch, I've never enjoyed a single storyline he's ever produced, despite his reputation. But his writing is but just one of my problems with Alan Moore. My biggest problem is his disdain towards his fans and the comic industry. I cannot see how someone could shun the people that helped make him great. And shun he does and does often.

Actually Moore has been very respectful and grateful to the fans he doesn't want to be worshiped and he doesn't want to be harassed at conventions like he was when people were sliding copies of books under a bathroom stall for him to sign when he was taking a crap.

In my opinion, you cannot possibly be good at anything and hate what you are doing or hate the people you are doing it for. Thus, his writing and his very name leaves a bad taste in my mouth and anything he produces is a dark cloud over the industry at large.

Read 1963, Supreme: The Story of the Year, Supreme: The Return, and Judgement Day.

If you want to be a fan of his and put him and/or his work up on a pedestal, by all means, be my guest. But don't expect him to do anything of the like for you.

Why would I? The last I check he lives in England and I live in the USA?
Yeah I know Moore's very anti-American these days and my attitude is: so what? He's got his opinions and I got mine.
I try to separate the work and artist apart, for example do I agree with the late John Wayne's politics? For the most part probably not, but that does mean I can't watch his movies and enjoy some of them? The same with Bruce Willis, Stallone, or comic books writers like Chuck Dixon, or Bill Willingham?

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:20:45 am

dave wrote:Alan Moore is indeed excellent. Not sure about him being number 1, but it's all subjective. Shooter being off the list is weird.

Shooter is a better editor than a writer.