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CEAR with Bernard Chang's signature

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So, I picked up a CEAR with Chang's sig at a local show. These may be questions for Greg, but I am curious to hear everyone's answers. Does the sig make it any more valuable? How many were signed? There are 5 graded on the census...are those likely to be the signed versions?

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I think signed comics are a personal preference moreso than for value. I personally enjoy the signed comics and think it adds a uniqueness to my overall collection. I only acquire signatures I can read however. That's my $0.02.

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I think the general notion is that it doesn't increase the value.

I actually prefer unsigned ones myself.

It doesn't hurt the value too much though. Is there a COE or is it just signed?
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wallywest wrote:So, I picked up a CEAR with Chang's sig at a local show. These may be questions for Greg, but I am curious to hear everyone's answers. Does the sig make it any more valuable? How many were signed? There are 5 graded on the census...are those likely to be the signed versions?
As geocarr indicated, it's more of a personal preference thing. Sigs usually decrease the value of books moreso than increase unless they are certified by CGC as a signature serie book (yellow label).

As far as the census, any signed copies of this book would be in the "qualified" column as they would receive the green label.

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I prefer unsigned books unless it's for a board project or something special. I'm also not a big fan of how Bernard signed the CEARs either. It looks like he was trying to sign a billboard instead of a comic book.....

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wallywest wrote:So, I picked up a CEAR with Chang's sig at a local show. These may be questions for Greg, but I am curious to hear everyone's answers. Does the sig make it any more valuable? How many were signed? There are 5 graded on the census...are those likely to be the signed versions?
Is there a letter with it? That should make a big difference.

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400yrs wrote:
wallywest wrote:So, I picked up a CEAR with Chang's sig at a local show. These may be questions for Greg, but I am curious to hear everyone's answers. Does the sig make it any more valuable? How many were signed? There are 5 graded on the census...are those likely to be the signed versions?
As geocarr indicated, it's more of a personal preference thing. Sigs usually decrease the value of books moreso than increase unless they are certified by CGC as a signature serie book (yellow label).

As far as the census, any signed copies of this book would be in the "qualified" column as they would receive the green label.
I meant my original post to say "there are 5 qualified graded by cgc". Sorry about that. There are far more graded in total.

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magnusr wrote:
wallywest wrote:So, I picked up a CEAR with Chang's sig at a local show. These may be questions for Greg, but I am curious to hear everyone's answers. Does the sig make it any more valuable? How many were signed? There are 5 graded on the census...are those likely to be the signed versions?
Is there a letter with it? That should make a big difference.

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I don't think these came with letters of authenticity. If in Greg's guide you click on the CEAR link, then on More Info, he tells about certain dealers who filled out Valiant surveys getting copies of CEAR signed by Chang. I was just curious what people know about these copies other than that info. I am more than likely going to keep the copy, but if it were much more valuable than a regular, I might sell it and buy a reg copy. I am not a signature guy, so the sig doesn't add much for me.

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wallywest wrote:
magnusr wrote:
wallywest wrote:So, I picked up a CEAR with Chang's sig at a local show. These may be questions for Greg, but I am curious to hear everyone's answers. Does the sig make it any more valuable? How many were signed? There are 5 graded on the census...are those likely to be the signed versions?
Is there a letter with it? That should make a big difference.

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I don't think these came with letters of authenticity. If in Greg's guide you click on the CEAR link, then on More Info, he tells about certain dealers who filled out Valiant surveys getting copies of CEAR signed by Chang. I was just curious what people know about these copies other than that info. I am more than likely going to keep the copy, but if it were much more valuable than a regular, I might sell it and buy a reg copy. I am not a signature guy, so the sig doesn't add much for me.
If it's signed in what looks like "silver" marker near the bottom, then it was a special signed book, like VVSS, that was given out to retailers as a thank you. This is, in fact, those "survey books."

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The letter that is referenced is this one:

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If it didn't come with this letter, it's worth substantially less. The letter is essentially a VVSS type COA.

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another variant to keep a look out for :hm:

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Cool

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Sig books are cool, if I meet and witness the signer.

I do not like buying signed books that I did not get signed.


I nothing else, for the forging factor.

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I think of this book the same way I do VVSSs.

It's official from Valiant and it would be neat to have but not at the price it normally commands at eBay auction (particularly since prices started inflating again since Christmas).

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ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:If it's signed in what looks like "silver" marker near the bottom, then it was a special signed book, like VVSS, that was given out to retailers as a thank you. This is, in fact, those "survey books."

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That's the one. It is essentially identical, down to the icon at the end of the sig.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
If it didn't come with this letter, it's worth substantially less. The letter is essentially a VVSS type COA.
Unfotuntately, it did not come with the letter. I am sure I bought it from the dealer who originally got it, but I am also quite sure he did not save the letter. Oh well, still a cool book. Do you think CGC will treat it any differently without the letter?

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wallywest wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:If it's signed in what looks like "silver" marker near the bottom, then it was a special signed book, like VVSS, that was given out to retailers as a thank you. This is, in fact, those "survey books."

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That's the one. It is essentially identical, down to the icon at the end of the sig.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
If it didn't come with this letter, it's worth substantially less. The letter is essentially a VVSS type COA.
Unfotuntately, it did not come with the letter. I am sure I bought it from the dealer who originally got it, but I am also quite sure he did not save the letter. Oh well, still a cool book. Do you think CGC will treat it any differently without the letter?
They'd treat it the same way, letter or no letter. It's a Qualified...

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I spoke to Bernard about these. he said he only remembers signing around 50 or so of these.

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chainnball wrote:I spoke to Bernard about these. he said he only remembers signing around 50 or so of these.



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Drool...

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Cool book. Whats it bring on Ebay?

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Usually over 100 bucks.

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chainnball wrote:I spoke to Bernard about these. he said he only remembers signing around 50 or so of these.
No! Serious...?

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Has this ever been sold as a "VVSS" type book? Other than the embossing and the "cert", it's essentially the same thing: officially produced by the company, with a letter certifying that.

A regular CEAR sells for $100+.

What would this one sell for....? :hm:

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ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Has this ever been sold as a "VVSS" type book? Other than the embossing and the "cert", it's essentially the same thing: officially produced by the company, with a letter certifying that.

A regular CEAR sells for $100+.

What would this one sell for....? :hm:
Why didn't they VVSS this book? Is it because it was already a retailer incentive issue?

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TKWill wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Has this ever been sold as a "VVSS" type book? Other than the embossing and the "cert", it's essentially the same thing: officially produced by the company, with a letter certifying that.

A regular CEAR sells for $100+.

What would this one sell for....? :hm:
Why didn't they VVSS this book? Is it because it was already a retailer incentive issue?
It came in one of those "fancy" Valiant mylars too.

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I am really suprised this book doesnt sell for more if its embossed and comes with a cert and holder


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