Unity #22

Brapbrap · Post by **Brapbrap** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:49 am

I liked how this tied back to the original arc and I liked that Kindt finally gave us a satisfying conclusion after a long build up, which is something he failed at in most other Unity arcs. I still think this arc was very flawed though - on a technical level it makes no sense because the big twist is that she can't kill people, yet the whole riot / war was spurred by her killing a diplomat. I also think its dumb when random characters like this are able to overpower aric's armor (her axe handle was able to pierce it?? what the *SQUEE*?)

On a story level my main problem was that this new guy was an absolute deus ex machina, he sacrifices himself for a cheap emotional moment (it's not very sad when a guy who has been in about 10 panels dies) and then livewire awkwardly blurts out 'he won't be forgotten' when we all know he is not getting anything more than a small mention next time warmonger is in a story

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:51 am

Poor what's his name. I'll never forget him.

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:07 am

Blood of Heroes wrote:Poor what's his name. I'll never forget him.

You mean the guy that wound up at the bottom of the ocean who had a name his whole (one issue) life that sounds like someone who would probably end up at the bottom of the ocean?

Anchor

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:09 am

What was the plan? Since the Unity team (Livewire) wanted Anchor to return to the surface... and seeing how Warmonger is now angry at the bottom of the ocean... wouldn't she have floated back to the surface, too?

Anchor had to sacrifice himself because the original plan was... do nothing to Warmonger?

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:05 pm

greg wrote:What was the plan? Since the Unity team (Livewire) wanted Anchor to return to the surface... and seeing how Warmonger is now angry at the bottom of the ocean... wouldn't she have floated back to the surface, too?

Anchor had to sacrifice himself because the original plan was... do nothing to Warmonger?

Was wondering the same. At best they were just going to plop her in the middle of the ocean and hope she didn't find her way out?

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:08 pm

Couldn't Aric have just put her into orbit? Or the sun?

ChiptheRipper · Post by **ChiptheRipper** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:52 pm

Okay, I know some people here haven't cared for this arc much, but didn't "You forgot about X-O Manowar." make up for it just a little bit? That was incredibly awesome

The art was fairly solid, I feel like it's been awhile since we've had a full team spread so it was nice to see. I also enjoyed that they acknowledged that Unity has spent more time fighting each other than being a team by having Ninjak mention none of them particularly like each other.

Warmonger's dialogue wasn't as cringy this time around, trying to casually curse just doesn't work in comics where it has to be censored. Anchor was a waste, if he had to exist at all (he didn't) I would have liked to see him stick around but hold a grudge against Aric. At least that would have been interesting, I saw the 'heroic sacrifice' coming from a mile away.

Overall it was okay. It was below average Valiant, but that's still above average compared to most comics.

Keith wrote:
greg wrote:What was the plan? Since the Unity team (Livewire) wanted Anchor to return to the surface... and seeing how Warmonger is now angry at the bottom of the ocean... wouldn't she have floated back to the surface, too?

Anchor had to sacrifice himself because the original plan was... do nothing to Warmonger?
Was wondering the same. At best they were just going to plop her in the middle of the ocean and hope she didn't find her way out?

I think they were putting her down into a trench where the water pressure would be too strong for her to move.

Blood of Heroes wrote:Couldn't Aric have just put her into orbit? Or the sun?

Yeah that probably would have been way easier, I was thinking the same thing when he was holding her

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:23 pm

Ugh. Another 4 issues leading to a dud finale. At least the solo stories in the last arc were decent. This was three issues of throw-away Unity teams.

At first I appreciated Anchor's sacrifice, but man did Kindt over do it and cheese it up to the point of ridiculousness. Here lies...some dude we just met...he was cool...I guess...but not really.

Why not just have XO cut off her head (or Ninjak if Aric has some moral opposition to it) and see if that cures her immortality? Or put her in one of the balls you put Unity and Malgam in? Not good enough to hold a potty-mouthed little girl with a god complex?

Good riddance to this *SQUEE* show. How you let me down Unity. Add it to the list with the first attempts at Shadowman and Eternal Warrior. Here's hopin a new VEI super team emerges at some point.

Michael_Ayer · Post by **Michael_Ayer** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:29 am

I just re-read the Homefront and the War monger arcs. They read well together. I enjoyed it.

I assume all this and the Divinity story happens before the valiant. I'd love to see an official chronology of everything.

Bl00dsh0t · Post by **Bl00dsh0t** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:31 am

Michael_Ayer wrote:I just re-read the Homefront and the War monger arcs. They read well together. I enjoyed it.

I assume all this and the Divinity story happens before the valiant. I'd love to see an official chronology of everything.

+1

Captain Craig · Post by **Captain Craig** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:44 pm

So, when Anchor's body is eaten, a current moves it off Warmonger or it just decays etc, etc and his density isn't a factor anymore....Warmonger just floats to the surface, finds her way back to shore...resume chaos.

Great scripting, great.....not.

CongoBill · Post by **CongoBill** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:47 pm

I enjoyed this issue (and the Warmonger arc, overall) although I also have to wonder why they didn't just take her out. I assume because Unity has a "no killing" policy? Even so, in this case I'd think an exception could be made. But I still love the Unity series! I'm very interested to see how James Asmus handles the writing chores in the next two issues.

hunter_peterson · Post by **hunter_peterson** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:06 pm

CongoBill wrote:I enjoyed this issue (and the Warmonger arc, overall) although I also have to wonder why they didn't just take her out. I assume because Unity has a "no killing" policy? Even so, in this case I'd think an exception could be made. But I still love the Unity series! I'm very interested to see how James Asmus handles the writing chores in the next two issues.

That appears to not be an option, but I'd throw her to the sun, not the ocean. Even if she somehow survived she'd never get back to Earth while it still existed.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:37 pm

Blood of Heroes wrote:Couldn't Aric have just put her into orbit? Or the sun?

That would make a great end to Unity .. Aric just throws all the bad guys onto the moon.

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:05 pm

When I read panel where Aric picks her up, this was all I could think of...

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:20 pm

Having just posted my negativity thread, I have to admit I liked this issue. Anchor's surprise introduction and demise didn't bother me and was a little poignant. I would have to guess that that deep down the walls of the tunnel he carved would start soon collapsing and trap her deep below the surface.

Loved Aric's appearance.

Good 'team' issue. The arc would have been better if the setup occurred in a single issue rather than spread across three.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:14 am

greg wrote:What was the plan? Since the Unity team (Livewire) wanted Anchor to return to the surface... and seeing how Warmonger is now angry at the bottom of the ocean... wouldn't she have floated back to the surface, too?

Anchor had to sacrifice himself because the original plan was... do nothing to Warmonger? :hm

So, when Anchor's body is eaten, a current moves it off Warmonger or it just decays etc, etc and his density isn't a factor anymore....Warmonger just floats to the surface, finds her way back to shore...resume chaos.

Great scripting, great.....not.

+1

Loved Aric's appearance.

This issue's saving grace. The arc still sucked.

String · Post by **String** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:28 am

While I've been enjoying this arc, this finale does fall somewhat flat. Anchor's storyline, while heartfelt, comes completely out of left field. If Kindt had previously hinted at his existence in some fashion within these last few issues, then his reveal would have had more impact (especially considering his connection to the first arc). But alas, here today, sunk tomorrow.

Aric's entrance and appearance was the most exciting part though.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:23 pm

String wrote:If Kindt had previously hinted at his existence in some fashion within these last few issues, then his reveal would have had more impact (especially considering his connection to the first arc). But alas, here today, sunk tomorrow.

Same.

Watchtower · Post by **Watchtower** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:03 pm

String wrote:If Kindt had previously hinted at his existence in some fashion within these last few issues, then his reveal would have had more impact (especially considering his connection to the first arc).

But the whole point of his character arc is that he's a nobody. He got turned down from the gang of glorified mooks that was Harada's Unity, and has been sitting on his *SQUEE* waiting for Neville to give him a buzz.

(Also, changing one's gravity isn't combat-oriented? Clearly someone should be taking lessons from Miss Valentine.)

Honestly, what hurts the ending isn't that XO didn't just throw War-Monger to space, but that Anchor sacrificing himself was not part of the plan. After all, him sacrificing himself for the greater good of the world spits in the face of War-Monger's ideals of humanity's "truths" being in its cruelty. It would not only be taking her out, but it would be sending a message in the process (which Aric kinda-sorta does by calling the rest of Unity on hand).

I do also love how abundantly clear it is that War-Monger is an idiot. Because she really is.

.....You know what I just realized, that makes this hilarious? The overall storyline mirrors pretty close to Dead Drop. Except this doesn't actually suck.

Dallow Spicer1 · Post by **Dallow Spicer1** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:26 pm

jmatt wrote:Having just posted my negativity thread, I have to admit I liked this issue. Anchor's surprise introduction and demise didn't bother me and was a little poignant. I would have to guess that that deep down the walls of the tunnel he carved would start soon collapsing and trap her deep below the surface.

Loved Aric's appearance.

Good 'team' issue. The arc would have been better if the setup occurred in a single issue rather than spread across three.

+1 Yeah, although this has been the least enjoyable Unity arc this issue was pretty decent. I think the story would have been more effective in 2 issues as it seemed somewhat padded out, but good ending nevertheless and interesting to bring back the guy from the first issue.

I'm still glad the series has ended as it's not up to par with the other books which are mostly top notch tight now. And as Ninjak and EW have their own books it seems pointless to continue with Unity. If it does relaunch then I'd like to see new or lesser known character (but NOT Betamax!!).

3/5 - decent art too!

tiredofmyself · Post by **tiredofmyself** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:14 pm

Wait I'm a bit confused... wasn't Anchor on guard duty (of the armor?) in the first arc?
(I've developed memory problem, sorry)

KXXX · Post by **KXXX** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:11 am

Sounds like you guys don't remember his introduction during the first arc of Unity.

KXXX · Post by **KXXX** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:11 am

tiredofmyself wrote:Wait I'm a bit confused... wasn't Anchor on guard duty (of the armor?) in the first arc?
(I've developed memory problem, sorry)

No you're spot on sir.

KXXX · Post by **KXXX** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:16 am

greg wrote:What was the plan? Since the Unity team (Livewire) wanted Anchor to return to the surface... and seeing how Warmonger is now angry at the bottom of the ocean... wouldn't she have floated back to the surface, too?

Anchor had to sacrifice himself because the original plan was... do nothing to Warmonger?

"If she comes back up, we'll get her again." -Ninjak

That may not be verbatim, but you get the idea. It's brilliant.

Seriously, though, unless there's some sociopathic streak to Unity and they actually banked on Anchor sacrificing himself, there was no plan.

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