This Board and Alien Books

[ManofTheAtom]

I'd hope that any new comics published by Alien Books bring in a new audience, and, ideally, it would be great if they could be lured here to become part of the community.

Let us not become to VALIANT what fans of DC's Pre-Crisis are to that fandom; old farts that hate what's happening with the comics and are toxic to new readers that do like it.

[Ryan]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

[ManofTheAtom]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

[GammaJosh]

I'd hope that any new comics published by Alien Books bring in a new audience, and, ideally, it would be great if they could be lured here to become part of the community.

Let us not become to VALIANT what fans of DC's Pre-Crisis are to that fandom; old farts that hate what's happening with the comics and are toxic to new readers that do like it.

A little late. That's exactly what this board has been since DMG took over.

[ManofTheAtom]

I'd hope that any new comics published by Alien Books bring in a new audience, and, ideally, it would be great if they could be lured here to become part of the community.

Let us not become to VALIANT what fans of DC's Pre-Crisis are to that fandom; old farts that hate what's happening with the comics and are toxic to new readers that do like it.

A little late. That's exactly what this board has been since DMG took over.

I wasn't here then. I'm here now. Let's see if we can fix it.

I just lament how empty the board has become. It used to be busier, more active.

[Ryan]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

[ManofTheAtom]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

[Ryan]

I'd hope that any new comics published by Alien Books bring in a new audience, and, ideally, it would be great if they could be lured here to become part of the community.

Let us not become to VALIANT what fans of DC's Pre-Crisis are to that fandom; old farts that hate what's happening with the comics and are toxic to new readers that do like it.

A little late. That's exactly what this board has been since DMG took over.

So you're saying people should be happy and praising books like Psi-Lords and other subpar DMG releases? The fact that people complain about it at least shows they still care. The other option is for people to lose interest in Valiant altogether, which seems to be pretty common as well. I don't think that's better.

[TheFerg714]

You can try the Valiant subreddit, if you want. It's kind of dead too, but it gets slightly more engagement that this place.

[ManofTheAtom]

You can try the Valiant subreddit, if you want. It's kind of dead too, but it gets slightly more engagement that this place.

We need to infuse life back into this board, though.

[Ryan]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

[ManofTheAtom]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

[Ryan]

Every fanbase needs new fans coming in to survive. Where did all the VEI fans and nanny boo club go? Became Bad Idea fans and to twitter I guess.

I think people should be free to express their true thoughts on a fan message board, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal or nasty attacks. Anyone who creates media for others' consumption has to be ready for a broad range of reactions, and be secure enough to not take reactions to the work as personal attacks.

If there are people who aren't into the new books, they'll eventually find other interests. Just like a lot of the old school/Shooterverse fans who used to be on this board. And a lot of the Dino-era VEI fans who used to post here all the time.

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

Good questions. My theory is that they (and many others) were super invested in VEI under Dinesh and Simons. Then when Harbinger Wars 2 was changed and all the threads that had been building were dropped in favor of the 'soft reboot' called Valiant Next (I think?) it took out all the excitement and their fandom ended (or became less). So their interest was directly tied to having monthly books coming out that they were enjoying. Makes sense, I wonder what makes all of us older fans so crazy?

[ManofTheAtom]

Nanny boo club? I feel like I missed something, lol.

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

Good questions. My theory is that they (and many others) were super invested in VEI under Dinesh and Simons. Then when Harbinger Wars 2 was changed and all the threads that had been building were dropped in favor of the 'soft reboot' called Valiant Next (I think?) it took out all the excitement and their fandom ended (or became less). So their interest was directly tied to having monthly books coming out that they were enjoying. Makes sense, I wonder what makes all of us older fans so crazy?

Yeah, I didn't keep up with VALIANT to read HW 2 so I'm not sure what happened there. I ended up falling behind with the comics, just wasn't able to keep up even though I wanted to.

You'd think that even if they lost interest in the comics the community would have survived that and they had used this place to talk about other things and stay in touch. Continue conversing here.

[Ryan]

I was mostly only lurking then, but there were a number of board members who had insider knowledge of VEI and would sort of flaunt their status. Lol it was whatever, just interesting that none of them seem to post anymore.

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

Good questions. My theory is that they (and many others) were super invested in VEI under Dinesh and Simons. Then when Harbinger Wars 2 was changed and all the threads that had been building were dropped in favor of the 'soft reboot' called Valiant Next (I think?) it took out all the excitement and their fandom ended (or became less). So their interest was directly tied to having monthly books coming out that they were enjoying. Makes sense, I wonder what makes all of us older fans so crazy?

Yeah, I didn't keep up with VALIANT to read HW 2 so I'm not sure what happened there. I ended up falling behind with the comics, just wasn't able to keep up even though I wanted to.

You'd think that even if they lost interest in the comics the community would have survived that and they had used this place to talk about other things and stay in touch. Continue conversing here.

Totally, I think a lot of people would meet at cons and were friends outside of just comics talk, so Idk why so many stopped coming to the board.

HW2 was the first post-Dinesh and Simons book that was started under Dinesh but was changed when DMG came in, so it's kind of the breaking point (or ending point) of the VEI Dinesh era.

[ManofTheAtom]

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

Good questions. My theory is that they (and many others) were super invested in VEI under Dinesh and Simons. Then when Harbinger Wars 2 was changed and all the threads that had been building were dropped in favor of the 'soft reboot' called Valiant Next (I think?) it took out all the excitement and their fandom ended (or became less). So their interest was directly tied to having monthly books coming out that they were enjoying. Makes sense, I wonder what makes all of us older fans so crazy?

Yeah, I didn't keep up with VALIANT to read HW 2 so I'm not sure what happened there. I ended up falling behind with the comics, just wasn't able to keep up even though I wanted to.

You'd think that even if they lost interest in the comics the community would have survived that and they had used this place to talk about other things and stay in touch. Continue conversing here.

Totally, I think a lot of people would meet at cons and were friends outside of just comics talk, so Idk why so many stopped coming to the board.

HW2 was the first post-Dinesh and Simons book that was started under Dinesh but was changed when DMG came in, so it's kind of the breaking point (or ending point) of the VEI Dinesh era.

Ah, got it.

[TheFerg714]

You can try the Valiant subreddit, if you want. It's kind of dead too, but it gets slightly more engagement that this place.

We need to infuse life back into this board, though.

I mean both can be fun. Isn't the ultimate goal to talk to more Valiant fans?

I guess it's unfortunate that you came back when everyone has already given up.

[aj583]

Oh, right. I think I recall that.

I was in the loop at VEI for a number of years but never flaunted it, heh.

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

Good questions. My theory is that they (and many others) were super invested in VEI under Dinesh and Simons. Then when Harbinger Wars 2 was changed and all the threads that had been building were dropped in favor of the 'soft reboot' called Valiant Next (I think?) it took out all the excitement and their fandom ended (or became less). So their interest was directly tied to having monthly books coming out that they were enjoying. Makes sense, I wonder what makes all of us older fans so crazy?

Yeah, I didn't keep up with VALIANT to read HW 2 so I'm not sure what happened there. I ended up falling behind with the comics, just wasn't able to keep up even though I wanted to.

You'd think that even if they lost interest in the comics the community would have survived that and they had used this place to talk about other things and stay in touch. Continue conversing here.

Totally, I think a lot of people would meet at cons and were friends outside of just comics talk, so Idk why so many stopped coming to the board.

HW2 was the first post-Dinesh and Simons book that was started under Dinesh but was changed when DMG came in, so it's kind of the breaking point (or ending point) of the VEI Dinesh era.

So Harbinger Wars 2 was like Whedon’s Justice League? I always wondered what the hell moment the HW2 #0 send away cover was reflecting in the book. Harada wasn’t in the story and who was the faceless entity diving into his head?!? Inquiring minds want to know. It was such a good Crain cover for goodness sakes!

To get back on topic, I agree with the sentiment of this thread. However, it all starts with good books where there is something to talk about and share. Do we think Alien books changes the status quo now? Have no idea about them.


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[Ryan]

You can try the Valiant subreddit, if you want. It's kind of dead too, but it gets slightly more engagement that this place.

We need to infuse life back into this board, though.

I mean both can be fun. Isn't the ultimate goal to talk to more Valiant fans?

I guess it's unfortunate that you came back when everyone has already given up.

Yeah for sure.

I'll add that the another breaking point was probably when the Bloodshot movie was released in the first week of the pandemic on top of mixed reviews. A lot of people were hoping for a VCU I think.

[Ryan]

So Harbinger Wars 2 was like Whedon’s Justice League? I always wondered what the hell moment the HW2 #0 send away cover was reflecting in the book. Harada wasn’t in the story and who was the faceless entity diving into his head?!? Inquiring minds want to know. It was such a good Crain cover for goodness sakes!

To get back on topic, I agree with the sentiment of this thread. However, it all starts with good books where there is something to talk about and share. Do we think Alien books changes the status quo now? Have no idea about them.


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I agree, which makes it all the more crazy that this place had so many fans during 2001-2010 when it seemed like there might never be Valiant books again.

[ManofTheAtom]

You can try the Valiant subreddit, if you want. It's kind of dead too, but it gets slightly more engagement that this place.

We need to infuse life back into this board, though.

I mean both can be fun. Isn't the ultimate goal to talk to more Valiant fans?

I guess it's unfortunate that you came back when everyone has already given up.

Definitely.

[ManofTheAtom]

Yeah it didn't actually bother me, I think for the most part they were just excited like any fan would be. It's just that they all seemed to disappear which is too bad.

So I've seen. What happened, though? Apathy toward VEI? DMG? Did they get bored of each other?

Good questions. My theory is that they (and many others) were super invested in VEI under Dinesh and Simons. Then when Harbinger Wars 2 was changed and all the threads that had been building were dropped in favor of the 'soft reboot' called Valiant Next (I think?) it took out all the excitement and their fandom ended (or became less). So their interest was directly tied to having monthly books coming out that they were enjoying. Makes sense, I wonder what makes all of us older fans so crazy?

Yeah, I didn't keep up with VALIANT to read HW 2 so I'm not sure what happened there. I ended up falling behind with the comics, just wasn't able to keep up even though I wanted to.

You'd think that even if they lost interest in the comics the community would have survived that and they had used this place to talk about other things and stay in touch. Continue conversing here.

Totally, I think a lot of people would meet at cons and were friends outside of just comics talk, so Idk why so many stopped coming to the board.

HW2 was the first post-Dinesh and Simons book that was started under Dinesh but was changed when DMG came in, so it's kind of the breaking point (or ending point) of the VEI Dinesh era.

So Harbinger Wars 2 was like Whedon’s Justice League? I always wondered what the hell moment the HW2 #0 send away cover was reflecting in the book. Harada wasn’t in the story and who was the faceless entity diving into his head?!? Inquiring minds want to know. It was such a good Crain cover for goodness sakes!

To get back on topic, I agree with the sentiment of this thread. However, it all starts with good books where there is something to talk about and share. Do we think Alien books changes the status quo now? Have no idea about them.


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What we know is that they might handle the creative moving forward. What that means will depend on who they hire to do it I guess.

[ManofTheAtom]

So Harbinger Wars 2 was like Whedon’s Justice League? I always wondered what the hell moment the HW2 #0 send away cover was reflecting in the book. Harada wasn’t in the story and who was the faceless entity diving into his head?!? Inquiring minds want to know. It was such a good Crain cover for goodness sakes!

To get back on topic, I agree with the sentiment of this thread. However, it all starts with good books where there is something to talk about and share. Do we think Alien books changes the status quo now? Have no idea about them.


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I agree, which makes it all the more crazy that this place had so many fans during 2001-2010 when it seemed like there might never be Valiant books again.

The torchbearers.

[Ryan]

So Harbinger Wars 2 was like Whedon’s Justice League? I always wondered what the hell moment the HW2 #0 send away cover was reflecting in the book. Harada wasn’t in the story and who was the faceless entity diving into his head?!? Inquiring minds want to know. It was such a good Crain cover for goodness sakes!

To get back on topic, I agree with the sentiment of this thread. However, it all starts with good books where there is something to talk about and share. Do we think Alien books changes the status quo now? Have no idea about them.


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I agree, which makes it all the more crazy that this place had so many fans during 2001-2010 when it seemed like there might never be Valiant books again.

The torchbearers.

There was so much energy, excitement, and anticipation. It was a fun time

[ManofTheAtom]

So Harbinger Wars 2 was like Whedon’s Justice League? I always wondered what the hell moment the HW2 #0 send away cover was reflecting in the book. Harada wasn’t in the story and who was the faceless entity diving into his head?!? Inquiring minds want to know. It was such a good Crain cover for goodness sakes!

To get back on topic, I agree with the sentiment of this thread. However, it all starts with good books where there is something to talk about and share. Do we think Alien books changes the status quo now? Have no idea about them.


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I agree, which makes it all the more crazy that this place had so many fans during 2001-2010 when it seemed like there might never be Valiant books again.

The torchbearers.

There was so much energy, excitement, and anticipation. It was a fun time

Definitely. It boggles the mind that the board's community was able to survive over a decade without any new VALIANT comics but died out after just a few years of bad decisions from the current owners.