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I talked to Alien on Facebook. They said they have brought up the Kickstarter many times with Valiant and have been told it will be fulfilled.

I'm sure that is what they're being told...but I'll believe it when the book is iny hand.

The thing is, Alien said the delay was understandable given all the editorial turnover, and I don't think that holds water. There are no editors at Valiant/DMG. The editors are now with Alien, who is apparently not publishing this book. Surely they need some additional graphic design work for print layout, someone familiar with publishing books, someone to arrange the sketches and autograph plates, etc. Who is going to do that if everything is outsourced to Alien who is not publishing this book? Who is going to get this thing made and turned around to fans?

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:02:02 pm double post.
lots of people say that.

(I secretly think they're lizard people talking in code)

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GammaJosh wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:48:25 pm I talked to Alien on Facebook. They said they have brought up the Kickstarter many times with Valiant and have been told it will be fulfilled.

I'm sure that is what they're being told...but I'll believe it when the book is iny hand.

The thing is, Alien said the delay was understandable given all the editorial turnover, and I don't think that holds water. There are no editors at Valiant/DMG. The editors are now with Alien, who is apparently not publishing this book. Surely they need some additional graphic design work for print layout, someone familiar with publishing books, someone to arrange the sketches and autograph plates, etc. Who is going to do that if everything is outsourced to Alien who is not publishing this book? Who is going to get this thing made and turned around to fans?
Travis mentioned that when he left, the AR cover wasn't done.
I don't know if anyone even cared about that aspect.

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:02:01 pm The title of this thing became unintentionally ironic...
:thumb: :funnypost:
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slack wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:50:59 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:02:02 pm double post.
lots of people say that.

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:atomic: Comics are like a Rorschach test, everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be... :atomic:

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leonmallett wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:08:47 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:02:01 pm The title of this thing became unintentionally ironic...
:thumb: :funnypost:
:D
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Keep making noise and reporting the campaign!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/va ... escription

Scroll down and hit "Report this campaign to Kickstarter."

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I asked Bleeding Cool to cover the Valiant Kickstarter...

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slack wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:12:55 pm I asked Bleeding Cool to cover the Valiant Kickstarter...
Did the same last night. That would be another good thing for all of us to do.

https://bleedingcool.com/contact/

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there's also this... I doubt he'll respond directly to anyone.

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slack wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:09:08 pm there's also this... I doubt he'll respond directly to anyone.

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Thank you! I’ll prep something this month.

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:17:56 am
slack wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:50:59 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:02:02 pm double post.
lots of people say that.

(I secretly think they're lizard people talking in code)
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Evidently some of my intel was wrong. I was under the impression lizard people couldn't read anything in parentheses. That's now disproven. All take note.

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slack wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:35:23 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:17:56 am
slack wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:50:59 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:02:02 pm double post.
lots of people say that.

(I secretly think they're lizard people talking in code)
f75e33adcdf765a2b31e959781607af5.gif
Evidently some of my intel was wrong. I was under the impression lizard people couldn't read anything in parentheses. That's now disproven. All take note.

:lol:

:lol:
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GammaJosh wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:26:09 pm
slack wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:12:55 pm I asked Bleeding Cool to cover the Valiant Kickstarter...
Did the same last night. That would be another good thing for all of us to do.

https://bleedingcool.com/contact/
should we also start emailing the other license holders, and remind them that the Kickstarter is generatiing an even worse public image around the Valiant IP?
And ask that they put pressure on DMG to protect the image of their licensed material...

Currently, they have in process... the video game, the novels, the RPG book, Alien... who else?

For Real... Scorched FUGGIN Earth

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slack wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:12:55 pm I asked Bleeding Cool to cover the Valiant Kickstarter...
They covered it!

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/still-n ... m-valiant/

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Green Ronin Publishing (RPG)

Blowfish Studios (video game)

Blackstone Publishing (Novels)

and, of course, Alien Books

all are licensing Valiant IP, and all stand to lose sales from bad press over DMG mismanagement of Valiant IP.

Anyone else?

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slack wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:32:06 pm Green Ronin Publishing (RPG)

Blowfish Studios (video game)

Blackstone Publishing (Novels)

and, of course, Alien Books

all are licensing Valiant IP, and all stand to lose sales from bad press over DMG mismanagement of Valiant IP.

Anyone else?
Bedrock Collectibles and HK-based ThreeZero (action figures)

Blanx (Punk Mambo sneaker)

Harper Collins (Faith YA novels)

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Sunlight on Snow wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:24:13 am
slack wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:32:06 pm Green Ronin Publishing (RPG)

Blowfish Studios (video game)

Blackstone Publishing (Novels)

and, of course, Alien Books

all are licensing Valiant IP, and all stand to lose sales from bad press over DMG mismanagement of Valiant IP.

Anyone else?
Bedrock Collectibles and HK-based ThreeZero (action figures)

Blanx (Punk Mambo sneaker)

Harper Collins (Faith YA novels)
Thanks!

it's worth it to email each of these companies and hit them on social media.

Let them know the damage that DMG is actively doing to the IP they have licensed. Make them know that their sales numbers are ALREADY taking a hit... before their products are even on shelves.

Hell, might as well also remind them to be super careful making contracts with DMG... DMG is known to contractually acquire companies that sign contacts with them... and then drive those companies into the dirt.

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GammaJosh wrote:
slack wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:12:55 pm I asked Bleeding Cool to cover the Valiant Kickstarter...
They covered it!

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/still-n ... m-valiant/
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Another week of total radio silence.

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GammaJosh wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:41:22 pm Another week of total radio silence.
Kickstarter respond to anyone about reporting the project?

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slack wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:51:56 pm
GammaJosh wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:41:22 pm Another week of total radio silence.
Kickstarter respond to anyone about reporting the project?
Nada here.

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slack wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:51:56 pm
GammaJosh wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:41:22 pm Another week of total radio silence.
Kickstarter respond to anyone about reporting the project?
Nothing here.
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leonmallett wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:12:11 am
slack wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:51:56 pm
GammaJosh wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:41:22 pm Another week of total radio silence.
Kickstarter respond to anyone about reporting the project?
Nothing here.
I reported a different project to Kickstarter and got a reply the very next day.

Many people reported the Valiant one, and have seemingly gotten no response from Kickstarter... wtf do we do about that?

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slack wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:32:11 am
leonmallett wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:12:11 am
slack wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:51:56 pm
GammaJosh wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:41:22 pm Another week of total radio silence.
Kickstarter respond to anyone about reporting the project?
Nothing here.
I reported a different project to Kickstarter and got a reply the very next day.

Many people reported the Valiant one, and have seemingly gotten no response from Kickstarter... wtf do we do about that?
Was that a reply from KS, or an update from the project creator? I'll look again at KS and see what else we can do.
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