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TimeWillTell wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:33 pm Just to clarify. I was never hired by Alien. Only Lysa and Dani were brought on board at Alien.

Hope everyone is doing well. It's been a long time since I posted here.

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Ah, cool. I just remember seeing your name in the credits and assumed.
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Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 am
Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:30 pm No, Alien Books is not DMG in disguise, they are a separate company that licensed the VALIANT characters FROM DMG to make comics, the same way Voyager licensed Solar, Magnus, and Turok from Random House/Classic Media.
Voyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.
Ok.
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
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Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 am
Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:30 pm No, Alien Books is not DMG in disguise, they are a separate company that licensed the VALIANT characters FROM DMG to make comics, the same way Voyager licensed Solar, Magnus, and Turok from Random House/Classic Media.
Voyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.
Ok.
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
Indeed. And same is true now of VALIANT and DMG. Alien acquired the license for the former from the latter.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 am
Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:30 pm No, Alien Books is not DMG in disguise, they are a separate company that licensed the VALIANT characters FROM DMG to make comics, the same way Voyager licensed Solar, Magnus, and Turok from Random House/Classic Media.
Voyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.
Ok.
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.

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Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 am
Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pm

Voyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.
Ok.
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 am

Ok.
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.

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Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am

Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.
Ah. I hope we see Tyler in SNW again.
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TimeWillTell wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:33 pm Hope everyone is doing well. It's been a long time since I posted here.

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Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am

Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.
What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.
Star Trek: Discovery is part of Star Trek and so is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and [iStar Trek: ]Prodigy[/i] and even the snoozefests that is Section 31 and Picard and that god-awful the POS Lower Decks is all Star Trek.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:58 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm

What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.
Ah. I hope we see Tyler in SNW again.
I hoping for Captain Angel to return they were cool.
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Cyberstrike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:31 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pm

What does Star Trek have to do with Detmer? :?
Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.
Star Trek: Discovery is part of Star Trek and so is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and [iStar Trek: ]Prodigy[/i] and even the snoozefests that is Section 31 and Picard and that god-awful the POS Lower Decks is all Star Trek.
No! It cannot be true. You are just saying these things to hurt me.

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Cyberstrike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:33 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:58 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm

Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.
Ah. I hope we see Tyler in SNW again.
I hoping for Captain Angel to return they were cool.
They might if they become to SNW what Mudd was intended to be for DIS.
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Chiclo wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:29 pm
Cyberstrike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:31 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pm
Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pm

Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.
You are not killing the joke properly.
There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.
I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.
Star Trek: Discovery is part of Star Trek and so is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and [iStar Trek: ]Prodigy[/i] and even the snoozefests that is Section 31 and Picard and that god-awful the POS Lower Decks is all Star Trek.
No! It cannot be true. You are just saying these things to hurt me.
:lol:

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Cyberstrike wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:37 am :funnypost:
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Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho :)
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TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho :)
If DMG licensed the characters once (to Alien) who is to say they wouldn't license them again in the future and Dinesh got them, right?
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TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho :)
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:04 pm
TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho :)
If DMG licensed the characters once (to Alien) who is to say they wouldn't license them again in the future and Dinesh got them, right?
Just as good imo. They bring him in or he licenses it. Either way, get Dinesh back in there.

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TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho :)
It seems like Bad Idea is the ideal setup for them though, they've created a large audience for their own creations, they have total creative freedom and they fully own everything they create. Why would they want to go back to working on licensed characters that they don't own?

I think the VEI universe needs a pause or retirement. Even on this board where most people left are the hardcore VEI fans, no one ever talks about the stories or re-reads them. Completely different from how it was after Vh1 folded.

The VEI universe was just made into the 'undead side' Valiant zombieverse like a month ago and no one on here barely noticed or cared. :?


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