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Ah, cool. I just remember seeing your name in the credits and assumed.TimeWillTell wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:33 pm Just to clarify. I was never hired by Alien. Only Lysa and Dani were brought on board at Alien.
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Detmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pmWhat does Star Trek have to do with Detmer?Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 amThink of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 amOk.Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pmVoyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:30 pm No, Alien Books is not DMG in disguise, they are a separate company that licensed the VALIANT characters FROM DMG to make comics, the same way Voyager licensed Solar, Magnus, and Turok from Random House/Classic Media.![]()


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Indeed. And same is true now of VALIANT and DMG. Alien acquired the license for the former from the latter.Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 amThink of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 amOk.Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pmVoyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:30 pm No, Alien Books is not DMG in disguise, they are a separate company that licensed the VALIANT characters FROM DMG to make comics, the same way Voyager licensed Solar, Magnus, and Turok from Random House/Classic Media.


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You are not killing the joke properly.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pmDetmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pmWhat does Star Trek have to do with Detmer?Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 amThink of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 amOk.Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pmVoyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:30 pm No, Alien Books is not DMG in disguise, they are a separate company that licensed the VALIANT characters FROM DMG to make comics, the same way Voyager licensed Solar, Magnus, and Turok from Random House/Classic Media.![]()
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There's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pmYou are not killing the joke properly.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pmDetmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pmWhat does Star Trek have to do with Detmer?Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 amThink of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 amOk.Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:48 pm
Voyager licensed the characters directly from Western Publishing, one of the most successful publishers of the 20th century. It wasn't until Western Publishing declared bankruptcy in 2001 that their character library was acquired by Random House Publishing. And now after several mergers over the years they're in the Dreamworks Classics (NBC) character property library.![]()


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I am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pmYou are not killing the joke properly.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pmDetmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pmWhat does Star Trek have to do with Detmer?Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 amThink of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.![]()
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Ah. I hope we see Tyler in SNW again.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pmI am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pmYou are not killing the joke properly.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pmDetmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pmWhat does Star Trek have to do with Detmer?Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.![]()


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Star Trek: Discovery is part of Star Trek and so is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and [iStar Trek: ]Prodigy[/i] and even the snoozefests that is Section 31 and Picard and that god-awful the POS Lower Decks is all Star Trek.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pmI am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pmYou are not killing the joke properly.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:50 pmDetmer is a character in Star Trek Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:20 pmWhat does Star Trek have to do with Detmer?Cyberstrike wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:50 am
Think of the GK3 like Star Trek or Transformers the owners of IP license them to whoever they want for as long a certain amount of time/sales requirement. They might have certain rules of what you can do major characters (Captain Kirk or Optimus Prime) but more freedom with secondary characters (Detmer or Sunstreaker). It's pretty much the same thing with the GK3 now of days and even back VH-1 days Dr. Solar, Man of Atom was a entirely different character than Valiant's Solar: Man of Atom was.![]()
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I hoping for Captain Angel to return they were cool.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:58 pmAh. I hope we see Tyler in SNW again.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pmI am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pmYou are not killing the joke properly.
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No! It cannot be true. You are just saying these things to hurt me.Cyberstrike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:31 pmStar Trek: Discovery is part of Star Trek and so is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and [iStar Trek: ]Prodigy[/i] and even the snoozefests that is Section 31 and Picard and that god-awful the POS Lower Decks is all Star Trek.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pmI am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:17 pmYou are not killing the joke properly.
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They might if they become to SNW what Mudd was intended to be for DIS.Cyberstrike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:33 pmI hoping for Captain Angel to return they were cool.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:58 pmAh. I hope we see Tyler in SNW again.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pmI am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.


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Chiclo wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:29 pmNo! It cannot be true. You are just saying these things to hurt me.Cyberstrike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:31 pmStar Trek: Discovery is part of Star Trek and so is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and [iStar Trek: ]Prodigy[/i] and even the snoozefests that is Section 31 and Picard and that god-awful the POS Lower Decks is all Star Trek.Chiclo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:36 pmI am making a joke that Discovery is not Star Trek. But Discovery is over and cannot hurt me anymore. But the Strange New Worst is still out there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:34 pmThere's a joke? How is Detmer a joke? I don't get the reference other than the name of the character in Discovery.

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Re: Alien looking to sell direct to consumer
Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho 

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If DMG licensed the characters once (to Alien) who is to say they wouldn't license them again in the future and Dinesh got them, right?TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho![]()


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This would be amazing. Everytime I look at art from Planet Death I think how cool that would be if it was X-OTronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho![]()
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Just as good imo. They bring him in or he licenses it. Either way, get Dinesh back in there.ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:04 pmIf DMG licensed the characters once (to Alien) who is to say they wouldn't license them again in the future and Dinesh got them, right?TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho![]()
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It seems like Bad Idea is the ideal setup for them though, they've created a large audience for their own creations, they have total creative freedom and they fully own everything they create. Why would they want to go back to working on licensed characters that they don't own?TronNerd82 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:41 am Perhaps it's just me who thinks this, but I think they should bring Dinesh back into the company. Under him, Valiant was doing great. Ideally, whoever is in charge needs to let Valiant rest for a while, get Dinesh back in, and regroup. Just my silly little opinion tho![]()
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