Crap Marvel puts out

Jaknife · Post by **Jaknife** » Tue May 25, 2004 11:25:16 am

ok guys. I have just decided to rant a little, and vent on how dumb marvel is now.

Marvel has come out with such crap lately its not even funny. anyone remeber the 'Wolverine: snikt' comics? those hurt my eyes just to look at. now they have anime-style artists, and Allred(who has the worst non-anime style ever). all the good artists are gone except for salvador larocca. joe mad, jim lee...etc, gone. i haven't collected a recent issue of xmen in my life. just back issues from the mid 90s. and my god, could there be more x titles? somebody PLEASE steal their thesaurus. or else we will soon have ultimate/astonishing/amazing/superb/super-cool/uncanny/awesome/shiznik/lovely/xtreme/new/old/classic/rad/groovy/phat/sweet/fantastic/incredible/great/regular/absolute/congressional/republican/democratic/presidential/ manowar/dinosaur hunter/robot fighter/ renegade/gay/men of the atom/hot/and finally marvelous...X-Men. isnt that great. and thats just the xmen. we havent even mentioned xforce xfactor xthis xthat. sob. WHY! why did Marvel throw quality out the window?! WAAAAAHHH!

ok. well. I'm done.

putz · Post by **putz** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:44:52 pm

(standing ovation) CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:39:43 pm

i had a a complete run of uncanny that i started as a kid that went from issue 145 all the way up to that *SQUEE* *SQUEE* "phalynx covenant" thing.

as soon as i finished reading that turd of a storyline i cancelled all my xbooks. i still have a the first 75 issues of xfactor for god's sake.

after reading that book for all those years i was so completely destroyed by how lame they had become that i couldn't stand to read them anymore.

i hope joss whedon can do a good job with the new book and i sincerely hope they can get the characters to the point where we care about them again. i mean doesn't anyone else miss colossus or is it just me?

<sigh>

the house of ideas indeed...

Jaknife · Post by **Jaknife** » Wed May 26, 2004 3:37:09 pm

ME! Colossus was my favorite Xman. even over Wolverine. I say the phalanx covenant was crap, but i think the story got better down the road.

screamingdc · Post by **screamingdc** » Thu May 27, 2004 12:43:06 am

Grant Morrison's run on New X-Men was excellent, i thought. anyways, you have hundreds of different X-titles because it sells. they could put out a book called X-crap and it'd be a top 100 book. weird how that works.

i do miss Colossus, but i kinda get why he was killed off. but then again, they've killed off Magneto a few times and he always seems to come back, and Jean Gray was recently killed off again and i'm guessing she'll come back within a few years. nobody ever really stays dead at Marvel, 'cept for Uncle Ben.

oh, and Ultimate Spider-Man is pretty much the only Marvel book worth reading now anyways. Joss Whedon has got a lot of hype but i'll wait a few issues before i endorse his X-Men run.

Jaknife · Post by **Jaknife** » Thu May 27, 2004 11:45:33 am

I do enjoy ult spidey, and i read ult xmen, but it has gotten worse over time.

jordan silo · Post by **jordan silo** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:27:48 pm

The crap Marvel puts out! (But I still do love Marvel) are those damn relaunches!

Escaflown4 · Post by **Escaflown4** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:42:08 pm

You guys are totally missing out for those that haven't started picking up Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men. Finally somebody has the right idea on how X-Men should be written. The latest issue #7 has me cracking up with the conversation between the Thing and Wolverine. Don't want to put any spoilers here, so go read the issue.

The Spider · Post by **The Spider** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:53:52 pm

Escaflown4 wrote:You guys are totally missing out for those that haven't started picking up Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men. Finally somebody has the right idea on how X-Men should be written. The latest issue #7 has me cracking up with the conversation between the Thing and Wolverine. Don't want to put any spoilers here, so go read the issue.

Oh yeah, I saw that. That was good.

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:15:35 pm

So far I think the Whedon X book is pretty good from what I've seen, but I gotta agree with the topic here. For some reason Marvel runs through cycles of great art and writing, and as soon as the books start selling like crazy like the Ultimate line, they poison it all with either overcomplicated storylines, lazy flashy art, or just by adding more and more new titles.

In my opinion it was Marvel that caused the great comic crash of the early 90's by trying to tie up as much of the display space as possible in the LCS's through not overprinting, but adding so many additional titles in such a short period of time. There were four or five spidey books and the same for ff and assorted xmen family titles. Then they made the dealers play ball with their exclusive distribution system and trying to elbow all the other companies out.

Master Dorque · Post by **Master Dorque** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:45:11 pm

Yeah....to much X-Stuff. But like most long standing titles, the quality comes and goes with the creative teams. The titles I consider the "core" X-Men titles are "X-Men" and "Uncanny X-Men", and IMHO they have produced more good issues than bad over the past few years. Also, the new kid on the X-block, "Astonishing X-Men" seems to be off to a good start. It's sad that Marvel has to get greedy and try to cash in on the popularity of the X-Men by publishing so many lower quality X titles.