Re-Reading: Solar #1

xoken · Post by **xoken** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:55 am

I thought we could do a book a day (that way people can read one every day or catch up on weekends), talk about it on its own, in the context of whats next, in regards to what expectations it creates and vote on how good it is. I don't have to be the one that posts everyday. If I miss a day or if someone wants to take over please do

For voting think of your single favourite comic book (not just VALIANT) as the benchmark - thats a 10 - and grade according to that.

Make sure to mention what you like'd about the book, what you didn't, what you wish they would have done, your favourite panels, lines of dialogue, little bits of trivia etc.

Solar #1

xoken · Post by **xoken** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:56 am

So pretty it deserves to be seen in supersize

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:47 am

Solar, Second Death. One of the greatest storylines ever. Plus part one of Alpha & Omega. Need more be said? We get to follow a poor home-less guy, who is a god, while he figures out where he is. Some action, but what matters is him and his thoughts. Human thoughts masking even to himself who he is. The art and coloring are great, but the story is even better. Nice touch to show a Battlemania comic in there as well.

/Magnus

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:37 am

The greatest Valiant comic ever made!

This issue has it all, Great story, art, inking, coloring.

Shooter is a master storyteller.

Layton/Perlin....WOW!

Front to back, nothing wrong with this book. It's perfect!

AND to top it of you have a BWS cover!

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:54 am

WOW

I forgot how good this issue is. Half the issue is "Sol" going around doing good deeds that, if one did have the power of a god, one could really do. Essentially Shooter's just establish the characters powers and that he lives in the "real" world.

But, wow, this sense of wonder just oozes off ever panel!

No blasting muggers with hand beams here. Just god-like abilites based on real science being used in intrigueing situations (I loved how he stole the nukes after rescueing the sub). And I loved how Sol's heroic actions ended up causing an international incident, establishing not everything is so simple in the "real world."

Shooter instills a great sense of humanity and humor in Seleski. I love the way he keeps worrying about his clothes. Shooter manages to make being a nuclear scientist look cool.

And we have Big John, one of the greatest supporting characters ever. The coolest shrink ever

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And Alpha and Omega is very simple, very stretched out but the dialog is extremely powerful as are the visuals. The larger panels and the world's biggest comic panel basically just give BWS the room to put a lot of stuff in the background. But he illustrates beautifully one of the thing I LOVED about Shooter era Valiants. The backgrounds helped tell the story. And every room, detail, and building looked real. The town has telephone wires, a McDonald's, people walking their dog, etc. Little touches like that just really drew me into the story.

Not a damn thing wrong here. A 10

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Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:02 pm

Very good book, the artwork, story and characters are excellent. A solid 10.

myron · Post by **myron** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:31 am

fantastic...what a read...more like a work of liturature than what most know as a comic...

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:40 am

The VCB synopsis:

Phil Seleski hangs in orbit above Earth, unsure how he got here. Slightly disoriented, he makes his way back to his home in Muskogee, Oklahoma. As he is looking for his clothes in the dim apartment, he is surprised by himself walking into the room! The two Phils look at each other, confused. Then, the super-powered Phil leaves. The other, younger looking Phil sits in his apartment, wondering what just happened.
The silver-haired, superhuman Phil dismisses the encounter as an hallucination. He then monitors communications transmissions concerning a prison riot, and he goes to see if he can help. When he intervenes in the prison fighting, one rioter stabs Phil in the back. The nuclear fire within Phil’s body sprays out of the wound, incinerating the attacker. With things not going too well, Phil departs from the prison.
At the Edgwater Fusion Reasearch facility, the “normal” Phil arrives to do some work. He is still shaken from the encounter with his superhuman other self. He even snaps at co-worker Dr Gayle Nordheim, who was only attempting small talk with him.
Over the ocean, Solar/Phil arrives at the spot where the soviet navy is attempting to recover a sunken nuclear sub. He raises the sub himself and delivers it to the puzzled soviets. But when he takes the nuclear missiles out to dispose of them, Phil finds himself being shot at by the sailors. Unaffected, he takes the missiles into orbit and detonates them. Phil returns to Earth to find that the government thinks the blast was a soviet S.D.I. test.
At Edgewater, the normal Seleski tries to confide in Dr Erica Pierce about his recent “hallucination”. But Pierce is cold and infers that Phil is unfit to operate the fusion reactor.
On the city streets, super-Phil has befriended a group of homeless people. He’s troubled because he senses that something is wrong, that he is somehow out of place in this world. He is afraid to return home where he had his “hallucination”. It is only when he sees the date on a newspaper that he realizes he has somehow travelled back in time. He departs immediately for Muskogee.
In Muskogee, the normal Phil confides his hallucination to his psychiatrist friend, John Veerhusen. John merely suggests that Phil relax and not work so hard. When Phil returns home, he finds his silver-haired doppelganger waiting inside. The superhuman warns the frightened physicist that he will kill him, rather than allow him to repeat his mistakes. And then Solar/Phil is gone.
Feeling truly disenfranchised, the superhuman Phil returns to the streets to stay the night with his homeless companions.

/Magnus

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:20 am

This is the book that hooked me. 10! Still an incredible read.

WR X-O · Post by **WR X-O** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:19 pm

This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:20 pm

WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.

nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

WR X-O · Post by **WR X-O** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:35 pm

Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see Valiant make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:23 pm

WR X-O wrote:
Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see VALIANT make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.

Welcome to the boards

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:28 am

Welcome WR X-O !

WR X-O · Post by **WR X-O** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:10 pm

Thanks for the warm welcome, all!

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:36 am

WR X-O wrote:
Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see VALIANT make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.

if you want VALIANT to come back.. your in the right place.... now.... what kind of return you want.... this is also the right place to discuss that....

can they replace the old VALIANT magic..... someone has to believe... why not us....

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:17 pm

This is another book (along with EW #1) that I would use to hook people on Valiant.

#1-11 is just one of the classic storys of all time for me.

sd2416 · Post by **sd2416** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:20 pm

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:18 am

WR X-O wrote:
Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see VALIANT make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.

Welcome aboard!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:46 am

leonmallett wrote:
WR X-O wrote:
Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see VALIANT make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.
Welcome aboard!

Haha..better late than never.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:55 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
WR X-O wrote:
Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see VALIANT make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.
Welcome aboard!
Haha..better late than never.

Obviously somebody on this board has put a hit out on WR X-O for saying that...haven't heard from him since

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:03 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
WR X-O wrote:
Elveen wrote:
WR X-O wrote:This was a really good read, and it's one of the first few I bought when I recently started to collect again.
nice choice....

and Hola compadre....

Thanks! I am glad I found this site. Funny enough, I've been able to pick up my old favorites now for a lot less than they cost me 14 years ago.

I'd love to see VALIANT make a comeback, but I don't think they'll be able to re-produce what they once had.
Welcome aboard!
Haha..better late than never.
Obviously somebody on this board has put a hit out on WR X-O for saying that...haven't heard from him since

Shhh...no one was supposed to notice that.

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