Spider-man: One More Day. Thoughts?

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:04 pm

Just wondering who read this $4 monster price tag of a book... It's a four part series, so I hope it picks up here soon, because to me the first issue didn't cover anything except more whining from Peter... "I do whatever to save you Aunt May." Then do it, buddy.

Also, did he just decide at random to switch back to the red and blues or was this because he "caught the killer"? Because I wouldn't call beating Kingpin up much of a resolve.

Anyways, just curious what others thought of this? Is Aunt May (finally) going to die?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:27 pm

I dropped all the Spiderman titles after "Back in Black".

My only mistake was not dropping all the Spiderman titles before "Back in Black". Talk about a huge anti-climactic letdown.

Breaking a few laws is the best they can do to make Spidey "cross the line"?

Please.

I'd have liked to see him rip the Kingpin's fat head off, personally.

stone384 · Post by **stone384** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:32 pm

This to me has just been more of the same. Nothing! Nothing has happened that justified the whole 'Back in Black' thing and nothing happened in this issue. Well one thing happened, they raised the price. If the book had been double sized then I would understand, but all they did was throw in a bunch of filler crap to made the book thick and cost more. I cannot wait for JMS to get the hell off this book. I liked his early spidey stuff, but for a while now the stories go between mediocre boring filler to just plain awful (I am looking at you "Sins Past") and this is just more same.

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superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:00 am

back in black
sales for spiderman 3
that was it and its crap

and i dropped it

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:23 am

stone384 wrote:This to me has just been more of the same. Nothing! Nothing has happened that justified the whole 'Back in Black' thing and nothing happened in this issue. Well one thing happened, they raised the price. If the book had been double sized then I would understand, but all they did was throw in a bunch of filler crap to made the book thick and cost more. I cannot wait for JMS to get the hell off this book. I liked his early spidey stuff, but for a while now the stories go between mediocre boring filler to just plain awful (I am looking at you "Sins Past") and this is just more same.

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See, and my only disappointment with that is that J Stablahblahblah (I don't know the guys name... the one that's been writing it forever) claims that everything he's done up to this point was leading up to this climax of an end. So, I'm not 100% sure how that's going to work, but I'm very curious. I haven't been too happy with Spider-man lately, but it's still better than most of the 90's stuff. Besides, even if I wanted to drop it, I'm afraid I have to stay loyal to the end... I love that guy.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:02 am

I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:13 am

Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.

I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:33 am

etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.

I think the general idea for bringing her back at the end of the whole Clone/Return of Norman Osborne Saga was to try and "reset" everything for the Spider-Man titles back before that debacle began.

Since many people sadly considered May Parker's "death" as prologue for that debacle, she got brought back to life.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:50 am

etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.

In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:01 am

leonmallett wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.
In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...

Yeah, I think so. They never really said, but they did the story more right in the "What If" world than the "real one". There was no reason to bring Aunt May back and every reason to return baby May. And to add to my gripes, Norman Osborne should have NEVER been brought back. He had been dead for sooooooooooo long, what was the point? Now all they need to do is bring back Gwen Stacey as a superhero.

stone384 · Post by **stone384** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:25 pm

See, and my only disappointment with that is that J Stablahblahblah (I don't know the guys name... the one that's been writing it forever) claims that everything he's done up to this point was leading up to this climax of an end.

I don't buy that crap for a second. The series has been all over the place. No sense of direction. He may have had this story in mind as his final spidey story, but there is no way everything he wrote was leading to this.

Besides, even if I wanted to drop it, I'm afraid I have to stay loyal to the end... I love that guy. Razz

*sigh* yea me too I am just ready for a fresh voice on the title.

I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.

I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.

Amazing #400....yeah that was a good ending. Much more rational reaction IMO. And keeping May would have been interesting. I wish they would have kept her too.

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The Harbinger · Post by **The Harbinger** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:01 pm

etos45 wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.
In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...
Yeah, I think so. They never really said, but they did the story more right in the "What If" world than the "real one". There was no reason to bring Aunt May back and every reason to return baby May. And to add to my gripes, Norman Osborne should have NEVER been brought back. He had been dead for sooooooooooo long, what was the point? Now all they need to do is bring back Gwen Stacey as a superhero.

she did come back, and even beat the crap out of spiderman. i don't know the issues, but apparently norman osbourne had a set of twins with gwen that grew at a hyper rate or something. Anyone know the issues? I've only heard about it.

stone384 · Post by **stone384** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:17 pm

Sins Past.....do yourself a favor and skip it. Everyone gave the clone saga grief. Sins Past makes the clone sage seem like Watchmen. ugh

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etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:13 am

The Harbinger wrote:
etos45 wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.
In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...
Yeah, I think so. They never really said, but they did the story more right in the "What If" world than the "real one". There was no reason to bring Aunt May back and every reason to return baby May. And to add to my gripes, Norman Osborne should have NEVER been brought back. He had been dead for sooooooooooo long, what was the point? Now all they need to do is bring back Gwen Stacey as a superhero.

she did come back, and even beat the crap out of spiderman. i don't know the issues, but apparently norman osbourne had a set of twins with gwen that grew at a hyper rate or something. Anyone know the issues? I've only heard about it.

What-What-What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! If I had read that, THAT would have been the breaking point for me...

The Harbinger · Post by **The Harbinger** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:06 am

Summary Storyline for Sins Past so you don't have to read it:

Norman Osbourne gets Gwen Stacy pregnant

. She has twins while away in France, named Gabriel and Sarah. She refuses to let Norman see them because of how he treats his own son, Harry, and decides to raise them with Peter. This is the reason why the Green Goblin kills Gwen Stacy.

Norman raises the twins, and because of his enchanced blood, they grow triple the time as fast as a regular human. Norman blames Spiderman for Gwen's death, so the twins go after him. When Peter discovers their identities, he literally "DIGS UP GWEN'S BODY" to get a DNA sample so he can compare blood between the two. Peter tells Mary Jane, who says she already knew.

By the story's end, Peter has told the twins the truth. Sarah believes Peter concluding that he would never have dug up Gwen's grave to acquire a DNA sample if he thought there was even a chance that he was their father, but Gabriel doesn't. Gabriel becomes the Grey Goblin, but gets kicked in the teeth for being stupid. His glider explodes and he ends up on a beach, of course, with amnesia

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:37 am

The Harbinger wrote:Summary Storyline for Sins Past so you don't have to read it:

Norman Osbourne gets Gwen Stacy pregnant . She has twins while away in France, named Gabriel and Sarah. She refuses to let Norman see them because of how he treats his own son, Harry, and decides to raise them with Peter. This is the reason why the Green Goblin kills Gwen Stacy.

Norman raises the twins, and because of his enchanced blood, they grow triple the time as fast as a regular human. Norman blames Spiderman for Gwen's death, so the twins go after him. When Peter discovers their identities, he literally "DIGS UP GWEN'S BODY" to get a DNA sample so he can compare blood between the two. Peter tells Mary Jane, who says she already knew.

By the story's end, Peter has told the twins the truth. Sarah believes Peter concluding that he would never have dug up Gwen's grave to acquire a DNA sample if he thought there was even a chance that he was their father, but Gabriel doesn't. Gabriel becomes the Grey Goblin, but gets kicked in the teeth for being stupid. His glider explodes and he ends up on a beach, of course, with amnesia

I don't recall him ever digging up the body, but he did get a DNA sample from it. I think the rest is accurate from what I recall.

It reads better as a comic than as a brief synopsis. JMS got handed the worst retcon in the history of comics and managed to build a story I actually mostly enjoyed around it. Didn't another title (Spectacular I think) pick up on this plotline immediately after Sins Past? Anyone ever read that?

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:24 am

etos45 wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.
In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...
Yeah, I think so. They never really said, but they did the story more right in the "What If" world than the "real one". There was no reason to bring Aunt May back and every reason to return baby May. And to add to my gripes, Norman Osborne should have NEVER been brought back. He had been dead for sooooooooooo long, what was the point? Now all they need to do is bring back Gwen Stacey as a superhero.

Have you seen the last few Exiles issues?

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:42 am

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
etos45 wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.
In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...
Yeah, I think so. They never really said, but they did the story more right in the "What If" world than the "real one". There was no reason to bring Aunt May back and every reason to return baby May. And to add to my gripes, Norman Osborne should have NEVER been brought back. He had been dead for sooooooooooo long, what was the point? Now all they need to do is bring back Gwen Stacey as a superhero.
Have you seen the last few Exiles issues?

I keep hearing about that book . .

I am going to track down some tpb's and do some reading . . .

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:03 am

siren3-4 wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
etos45 wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I loved the issue that May Parker "died" back in the 90s. It was a beautiful, touching story that was a proper send off for her.
I totally agree! They should have kept here dead then (nobody wanted her back) and brought back baby May. That's what I thought they were going to do and that would have been the best solution to everything in the end.
In Spider-girl/MC 2 continuity she stayed dead then...
Yeah, I think so. They never really said, but they did the story more right in the "What If" world than the "real one". There was no reason to bring Aunt May back and every reason to return baby May. And to add to my gripes, Norman Osborne should have NEVER been brought back. He had been dead for sooooooooooo long, what was the point? Now all they need to do is bring back Gwen Stacey as a superhero.
Have you seen the last few Exiles issues?
I keep hearing about that book . .

I am going to track down some tpb's and do some reading . . .

Does an appearance by an alternate reality version of a character count as bringing them back?

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:40 am

Todd Luck wrote:
Does an appearance by an alternate reality version of a character count as bringing them back?

I say no . . . but from what I've heard, the stories in Exiles have been fun reads . .

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:36 pm

Finally got my books and read the first issue of One More Day. I agree that it was more of the same - Whining. ASM is terrible. It's official. Anyone know when JMS is done on this book? If it's a while (or the forseeable future), I'm done with this book that I've loved forever.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:08 pm

im dropping it

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:37 am

400yrs wrote:Finally got my books and read the first issue of One More Day. I agree that it was more of the same - Whining. ASM is terrible. It's official. Anyone know when JMS is done on this book? If it's a while (or the forseeable future), I'm done with this book that I've loved forever.

It's his final plotline on the book (that's kind of the point). I think you've got 1 to 2 more months left.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:59 pm

Todd Luck wrote:
400yrs wrote:Finally got my books and read the first issue of One More Day. I agree that it was more of the same - Whining. ASM is terrible. It's official. Anyone know when JMS is done on this book? If it's a while (or the forseeable future), I'm done with this book that I've loved forever.
It's his final plotline on the book (that's kind of the point). I think you've got 1 to 2 more months left.

I'll stick with it then. Who is taking it over? Aren't they supposed to do like a ASM book per week or some other milking gimmick?

They should've named this plotline One Last Whine.

stone384 · Post by **stone384** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:24 pm

AFter One more day is finished all the Spider-Man titles will be cancelled except for Amazing. Amazing will then ship 3 times a month. There will be a rotating writers and artists once that happens. I think they will be the same 3 or 4 guys. They will just rotate after each storyline. The artists will do the same. I think Dan Slott and Jeph Loeb were mentioned I don't remember who else.

I kinda think this would be a good jumping off point. If I was on the fence with the book and it coming out 3 times a month, it would be awful expensive to give the first storyline a chance.

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