WTF .. I no longer have 100% .. when did the

[x-omatic]

Did anyone else notice that there are more books in the inventory list now?
I had 100% but now I am missing 7 books now (at least until I update my list )

For the lazy they are.

Destroyer 0 - $2.50 Cover Price*
Harbinger Trade Paperback Second Print*
Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant*
Magnus Robot Fighter 0 (without card)*
Valiant Free-View 1 Second Print*
Visitor vs Valiant Universe 1 - $2.50 Cover Price*
Visitor vs Valiant Universe 2 - $2.50 Cover Price*

[myron]

I remember greg talking about doing it, didn't realize he had...

[Daniel Jackson]

Oh well, I guess it keeps us on our toes. Good luck finding the Ironman/X-O Variant.

[x-omatic]

Oh well, I guess it keeps us on our toes. Good luck finding the Ironman/X-O Variant.

Thats just what I was thinking.

[sonicdan]

Did anyone else notice that there are more books in the inventory list now?
I had 100% but now I am missing 7 books now (at least until I update my list )

For the lazy they are.

Destroyer 0 - $2.50 Cover Price*
Harbinger Trade Paperback Second Print*
Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant*
Magnus Robot Fighter 0 (without card)*
Valiant Free-View 1 Second Print*
Visitor vs Valiant Universe 1 - $2.50 Cover Price*
Visitor vs Valiant Universe 2 - $2.50 Cover Price*

I noticed a while back that the Acclaim inventory had been tweaked.
Now I'm no longer 100% in either section. :x With the Iron Man/XO variant
in the Valiant inventory and the Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION
in the Acclaim inventory, I don't think anyone really has much of a chance at 100% in both.

DAN

[Daniel Jackson]

Aww...man I almost forgot about that Shadowman Special Edition. Another "search for the lost ark" comic. What did people do with these books, use them to start a fire?

[x-omatic]

Did anyone else notice that there are more books in the inventory list now?
I had 100% but now I am missing 7 books now (at least until I update my list )

For the lazy they are.

Destroyer 0 - $2.50 Cover Price*
Harbinger Trade Paperback Second Print*
Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant*
Magnus Robot Fighter 0 (without card)*
Valiant Free-View 1 Second Print*
Visitor vs Valiant Universe 1 - $2.50 Cover Price*
Visitor vs Valiant Universe 2 - $2.50 Cover Price*

I noticed a while back that the Acclaim inventory had been tweaked.
Now I'm no longer 100% in either section. :x With the Iron Man/XO variant
in the Valiant inventory and the Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION
in the Acclaim inventory, I don't think anyone really has much of a chance at 100% in both.

DAN

I forgot to check the Acclaim one....

I am missing twice as many now.........


Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION*




and


Turok Evolution EB Games*

[dino]

Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION* ???!?!?!
How many people have one?

[Brother J]

hmmm, I could have sworn that the agreement was the Iron Man/X-O Game variant was a VH2 book, not a VH1 since the contents are a preview of the VH2 X-O. Oh well, luckily I really don't give a crap about updating my inventory or being 100% like I used to. Maybe you'll want to add Bloodshot Platinum Error to the checklist, as well so then it's real easy to be 100%.

[jedimarley]

Hey, it keeps us on our toes and gives us something to work for.
Keeps the fun of it alive.

[Daniel Jackson]

Yeah, now get out there and raid those back issues bins!

[jedimarley]

Yeah, now get out there and raid those back issues bins!

Can't find any with Valiants

[Technique]

ON

This is kind of a sore spot with me.

With the switching of the Iron Man / XO books back to VH1 it is only possible for one person to be 100% in VH1. I don't have a big problem with the placement of the IM/XO books but I do have a problem with the inclusion of the Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant.

I don't recall who has it but I think that there is only one Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant known to exist. The problem with the inclusion of this book is that no one knows anything about it. No one know how or why it was made, how it was distributed, or how many there are. My guess is that there were only a handful made as example copies. I say this because the cover and the interior have nothing to do with each other. That makes me think that they had some review copies lying around when someone asked for a test copy to be made. So someone modified an existing cover and slapped it onto the review copies that were lying around.

My point is that we know nothing about this book and that it should not be included until we do.

The Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION has the same host of problems and I don't feel that it should be included for 100% unless someone can clear up the questions surrounding it. I think that there is only one of these known to exist as well.

So as it stands now it is possible for only one person to be 100% on each of the VH1 and VH2 lists. And that just rubs me the wrong way.

OFF

[Brother J]

ON

This is kind of a sore spot with me.

With the switching of the Iron Man / XO books back to VH1 it is only possible for one person to be 100% in VH1. I don't have a big problem with the placement of the IM/XO books but I do have a problem with the inclusion of the Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant.

I don't recall who has it but I think that there is only one Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant known to exist. The problem with the inclusion of this book is that no one knows anything about it. No one know how or why it was made, how it was distributed, or how many there are. My guess is that there were only a handful made as example copies. I say this because the cover and the interior have nothing to do with each other. That makes me think that they had some review copies lying around when someone asked for a test copy to be made. So someone modified an existing cover and slapped it onto the review copies that were lying around.

My point is that we know nothing about this book and that it should not be included until we do.

The Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION has the same host of problems and I don't feel that it should be included for 100% unless someone can clear up the questions surrounding it. I think that there is only one of these known to exist as well.

So as it stands now it is possible for only one person to be 100% on each of the VH1 and VH2 lists. And that just rubs me the wrong way.

OFF

I agree 1000%! Unless I'm totally going crazy, I remember discussing it and we came to the conclusion that this book did NOT fit into VH1, and we were even thinking about moving the X-O/Iron Man books to VH2. I also agree that no one knows what these things are. Why ruin everyone's 100% just to add a book to a checklist that only one person currently has? At least if you added the Bloodshot Platinum to the list (not a good idea, either) we know there's a bunch of them out there.

[depluto]

I'm nowhere near 100 percent, but I support the idea of pruning a few of these obscure books.

Error books should definitely not be on there. I don't even think some of the price variants should. Maybe there can be some kind of separate list of odd stuff for the "extreme collector."

[Technique]

If it was deliberately created and distributed by Valiant or Valiant/Acclaim, then it should be on the list. The catch is that we have to KNOW that it was created and distributed by either.

That means that the price variants are in because they are purposely different from the regular issues.

The error editions should not be included because they were not deliberate. I have almost always thought that the Magnus 57 error edition should be reduced to a footnote. Bloodshot plat should stay out.

I would put XO/IM back in VH2 (for date reasons, I think it was no longer Valiant when it was published, someone should check the indicia if the books are convenient) and I would remove the two books in question since they are anomalies at this point.

It's all up to Greg though. His house, his rules

[x-omatic]

The error editions should not be included because they were not deliberate. I have almost always thought that the Magnus 57 error edition should be reduced to a footnote. Bloodshot plat should stay out.

The Magnus 57 was included because they discovered the error and corrected it. Thus the 2 versions.

[Technique]

The error editions should not be included because they were not deliberate. I have almost always thought that the Magnus 57 error edition should be reduced to a footnote. Bloodshot plat should stay out.

The Magnus 57 was included because they discovered the error and corrected it. Thus the 2 versions.

I understand, but the two versions were not intentional. They did not deliberately produce the error version for distribution. That's why I don't think the error version should be given special status over any other mistake.

Is it collectible? Sure, that's what the footnote is for. But is the error version a unique Valiant product? No, it is a unique Valiant mistake that would have never seen the light of day if someone had noticed the problem before the books were sent out.

[David_Cody]

I'm with you on that Technique. It was not a deliberate variant of Magnus. Keep the BW Plat off as well. Other than that, I don't see the beef.

[Daniel Jackson]

The error editions should not be included because they were not deliberate. I have almost always thought that the Magnus 57 error edition should be reduced to a footnote. Bloodshot plat should stay out.

The Magnus 57 was included because they discovered the error and corrected it. Thus the 2 versions.

I'm kind of indifferent when it comes to error versions being on the list. The nice thing about the 57 error version is the huge quantity there seems to be of them. Unlike the Shawoman Special Edition and the Ironman/X-O Variant.

I don't mind hard to find books being on the list, but I do hate chasing ghosts. That would be the problem I have with some of the books on both lists.

Depluto has a good idea, take these other books and put them on an appendage to the list. Since there is no way of determining how many of them there are supposed to be.

[depluto]

My goal was to get to 100 percent of "original content."

After that, the rest of this stuff ... gold books, vvss and whatnot ... is just gravy. But still fun.

[dino]

I agree, until we know more about the game variant it shouldn't be in the 100%

[SolarFan777]

I agree with depluto. The 100% is atainable for most if you take out the vvss, golds, reds, etc. I would like to try to get 100% of original content for a goal. Will I ever own a cear... Probably NOT.

[Technique]

I agree with depluto. The 100% is atainable for most if you take out the vvss, golds, reds, etc. I would like to try to get 100% of original content for a goal. Will I ever own a cear... Probably NOT.

I think this is why Greg broke out the columns and there is a "Regular Issues" column. Mind you, I don't think it counts any trades that you have in place of the regular issues. "Original Content" is tricky since that would include Magnus 0 and perhaps some other pricey issues that are not currently availabe in an inexpensive format.

My original point here was that the Iron Man/X-O Manowar 1 Video Game Variant and the Shadowman Vol 2 1 SPECIAL EDITION should not be included for 100% because we know nothing about them. We do not know how or why they were produced, we do not know how many were produced, and I suspect that they were put together like a quilt and never actually distributed.

I also think that the IM/XO books should be V2/3 and that Magnus 57 Error should be removed from the inventory but those do not get under my skin like those other two books do.

[davidb]

I'm in the same group as solarfan777. I'd like to get a complete run of stories, even though you still have to deal with the early Harbingers, Magnus 0, etc. And of course, if I ever hit a cheap gold or VVSS I'd grab it, but that's not my real focus right now.

David B.