Valiant in Wizard #151

johnpaulbill · Post by **johnpaulbill** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:51:26 am

Has anybody read the new Wizard (#151)? On page 129, they have a half-page devoted to Valiant #0 issues in it. It really has started.....

[[EDITED BY GREG]]
For anyone interested in a response to the Wizard information, visit:
http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/Wi ... sponse.asp
[[END OF EDIT]]

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:10:09 am

can anyone post a copy of that article for those of us who don't get wizard?

kryptonitecomics · Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:14:17 am

myron wrote:can anyone post a copy of that article for those of us who don't get wizard?

No more sleeper.....darn!!!!

COMICKINGS · Post by **COMICKINGS** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:05:49 pm

This issue is also the April Fools issue,so some people might think it's all a joke.

tssgery · Post by **tssgery** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:17:44 pm

Here it is...

twofour · Post by **twofour** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:20:50 pm

Its coming back!!! Who will step up to the plate and bring this universe back?!? Somebody give Shooter a loan or does he already have the money?

twofour

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:22:20 pm

Some interesting prices they made up there.

I wish I could get those comics at those prices today.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:23:42 pm

The best part is that I would gladly buy most of those issues for those prices...platinum bloodshot for $500...XO gold $8...that the last one I saw on ebay went around $30...

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:25:00 pm

tssgery wrote:Here it is...

thanks

much appreciated!

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:25:50 pm

In fact its more like these prices from top to bottom left to right:

$50-60
$40-50
$25
$35
$800
$25
$25.

So they are only off by a tad, little, bity, HUGE number. And since they are suppose to be a current price guide...

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:54:17 pm

The Bloodshot "Platinum error" book they're showing isn't the right book, anyway. They're showing a regular copy of Bloodshot #0. How many people are going to go on eBay and try to sell their Bloodshot #0 for $500 now because of Wizard's error?

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:58:02 pm

I was thinking the same thing...Now people are going to freak out about bloodshot 0 a completely worthless book...sweet...just what valiant needs...this should really help out the rep.

dino · Post by **dino** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:26:15 pm

I hate wizard

kryptonitecomics · Post by **kryptonitecomics** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:25:37 pm

dino wrote:I hate wizard

It's great bathroom reading material....that's about it!

tssgery · Post by **tssgery** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:30:55 pm

I just noticed that Harbinger made the price list as well. Here's the breakdown:

0 Blue, $6
0 Pink, $30
1 w/coupon, $20
2 w/coupon, $10
3-6 w/coupon, $8
7, $5
8-9, $3.50
10, $3
11-40, $2
41, $5
TPB, $10
TPB Blue, $18

Also, 0 pink, 1, 3-9, and 41 were noted for the price going up this month.

Valiant also made the "Movers and Shakers" section as well as having both Harbinger and Magnus books listed in the CGC section

johnpaulbill · Post by **johnpaulbill** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:47:24 pm

Since I started this thread, here's what happened to me today. I found a book store down in Arkansas, and he said he had lots of Valiants (about 1.5 long boxes), and he had some good books, too. Solar 10, 1st & 2nd listed for $8 and $4 respectively--which I immediately grabbed up. When I went to check out, there he was looking at this crazy valiantcomics.com site and he raised the prices on me to $20/$8, then gave me 40% off. Not too bad, but nothing like what I was hoping for. Also picked up a Bloodshot #6 VVSS, and a Ninjak #1 VVSS without a certificate of authenticity from Valiant, but one of them was in one of those terrible Valiant sleeves. How does this affect their price? I'm just curious.

Anyway, thanks Greg for costing me more money today! Crazy world we live in, eh? There go the cheap books we all love and cherish to find.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:56:42 pm

When I went to check out, there he was looking at this crazy valiantcomics.com site and he raised the prices on me to $20/$8, then gave me 40% off.

Are you serious??? Wow, never heard of that happening to someone. It's another case of a dealer jacking up the prices on a book because someone showed interest in it. I think I would have just left the books there in that case, I still think it's amazing that he actually found this website and decided to charge you full guide price and then give you a discount.

Also picked up a Bloodshot #6 VVSS, and a Ninjak #1 VVSS without a certificate of authenticity from Valiant, but one of them was in one of those terrible Valiant sleeves. How does this affect their price? I'm just curious.

A Ninjak #1 VVSS? Was it embossed with the VVSS stamp? There's plenty of signed copies of that book, but as far as Greg's list goes, there's not supposed to be a Ninjak #1 VVSS.

If the Bloodshot #6 VVSS was the book that came in the Valiant sleeve, I'd recommend you keep the sleeve, even if you don't keep the comic in it. Both copies of the Bloodshot #6 VVSS that I have come across have came with a Valiant sleeve and it is different from the normal Valiant sleeve in that the Valiant logo on the back is a lot bigger. As far as I know, that's the only way to be able to tell if you have an actual VVSS copy as opposed to just a signed book since it wasn't stamped and didn't come with a COA.

johnpaulbill · Post by **johnpaulbill** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:34:42 am

A Ninjak #1 VVSS? Was it embossed with the VVSS stamp? There's plenty of signed copies of that book, but as far as Greg's list goes, there's not supposed to be a Ninjak #1 VVSS.

OK, OK, my bad. It's not a VVSS, but is signed by Quesada and May (I think). Nice looking book, but it isn't embossed like Rai #9 is.

The Bloodshot #6 is the one that came in the Valiant Sleeve. Signed by VanHook and Perlin.

Also picked up an Eternal Warrior #10 signed by Mark Amoretti and K. VanHook that was signed at the Motor City Comic Bon in 1993.

I was able to rescue an A&A #0, EW #4, and Rai #0 for just a couple of bucks.

The best find was a Harbinger TPB 2nd print for only $3.60.

All in all 10 books for $65 with tax. Not a great haul, but hey, I filled in at least two holes and padded #'s on some good books!

Heck, I even told the guy that he wasn't supposed to know about this site, and he just chuckled

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:35:35 am

Hi all! I bought this latest Wizard & saw the Valiant bits in there & I got so excited I decided to come back here (finally) & recreate my profile. My eyes popped outta my head (almost) when I saw they acknowledged the Bloodshot 0 error. Wrong pic but still is nice to have a "voice" in a major comic publication again. Hope it keeps rolling. It's great to be back! Thanks for getting the board back up Greg! I have more time now, so I hope to post more often. ~Erskine

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:15:30 am

There goes me picking up Harbinger 1-6 for cheap on the lowlow. Man this sucks...I was getting fairly close to a complete set too...man wizard could not have waited just another 2 months and I would probably have a completed set...arrrgghhh...if they would have just waited until after the con that I am atteneding next month...oh well...I guess it is good for valiant...

Ax · Post by Ax » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:31:07 am

johnpaulbill wrote:Since I started this thread, here's what happened to me today. I found a book store down in Arkansas, and he said he had lots of Valiants (about 1.5 long boxes), and he had some good books, too. Solar 10, 1st & 2nd listed for $8 and $4 respectively--which I immediately grabbed up. When I went to check out, there he was looking at this crazy valiantcomics.com site and he raised the prices on me to $20/$8, then gave me 40% off. Not too bad, but nothing like what I was hoping for.

He raised the price on you? I don't think I could handle.

RyanMcLelland · Post by **RyanMcLelland** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:35:00 am

Total props to Ryan for getting the word out there in Wizard (not me...Wizard Ryan...the only thing I'm good for is sweeping floors). I'll probably never complete my Pre-Unity collection now...but I'd rather see those who are willing to buy these issue start collecting Valiants again then me having a whole set.

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:48:14 am

Don't worry, Ryan, even if Wizard brings 500 people back to Valiant, it will bring 20,000 pre-Unities out of comic shop back rooms. I'm guessing prices will actually go down. Not on the super-rare books (because, as Greg has said before, there's a point at which one of us won't let it go for cheap and we'll just pick up another copy.)

myron · Post by **myron** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:00:52 am

Shakespeare wrote:Don't worry, Ryan, even if Wizard brings 500 people back to Valiant, it will bring 20,000 pre-Unities out of comic shop back rooms. I'm guessing prices will actually go down. Not on the super-rare books (because, as Greg has said before, there's a point at which one of us won't let it go for cheap and we'll just pick up another copy.)

Probably to a certain extent...but for most of those pre-unity issues there simply aren't those types of number out there...there may be hundreds in back rooms, but not thousands...

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:05:07 am

Erskine71 wrote:Hi all! I bought this latest Wizard & saw the Valiant bits in there & I got so excited I decided to come back here (finally) & recreate my profile. My eyes popped outta my head (almost) when I saw they acknowledged the Bloodshot 0 error. Wrong pic but still is nice to have a "voice" in a major comic publication again. Hope it keeps rolling. It's great to be back! Thanks for getting the board back up Greg! I have more time now, so I hope to post more often. ~Erskine

Erskine,

Good to have you back!
I'm surprised that you haven't been here, but you've been reading Wizard?
Is that what you've learned after all these years?!?
(Just kidding)

For the other posts above... I agree...
Mainstream attention could draw out the "hidden copies" of these books,
which could lower the prices if there is a flood of books on Ebay.
Lower prices are great for anyone buying...
so I guess we should just see what happens!