Voting Poll on Previews/Diamond site

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:19:20 am

leonmallett wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:
StarBrand wrote:It's interesting to see the Diamond poll with more general fans than VALIANT fans possibly voting, and how the results are different than the poll ran here.
And a good lesson for those board members who get excited about their own (VERY biased) "business proposals."

I am probably being very dense today so I apologise - but

S'OK, I'm clueless too.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:31:15 am

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:
StarBrand wrote:It's interesting to see the Diamond poll with more general fans than VALIANT fans possibly voting, and how the results are different than the poll ran here.
And a good lesson for those board members who get excited about their own (VERY biased) "business proposals."

I am probably being very dense today so I apologise - but
S'OK, I'm clueless too.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:48:57 am

It's not you, it's me.

We have a some armchair quarterbacks who can and will tell you what VEI should do (and/or what they're doing wrong), but they're leading with their hearts, not with their heads.

VALIANT lover-centric decisions will often be poor business decisions, I say (quality tales, competent art and a non-prohibitive price point excepted, as that's not VL-centric). And the VFC/Diamond poll differences is a nice illustration of that to me. Well, it's vindication to me, but it's a nicely illustrated vidication.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:49:45 am

X-O HoboJoe wrote:

Hobo--you've been rockin' the shocker a LOT lately.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:58:40 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Hobo--you've been rockin' the shocker a LOT lately.

They should bring that character back just so Spidey can give him hell about his name.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:57:11 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:It's not you, it's me.

We have a some armchair quarterbacks who can and will tell you what VEI should do (and/or what they're doing wrong), but they're leading with their hearts, not with their heads.

VALIANT lover-centric decisions will often be poor business decisions, I say (quality tales, competent art and a non-prohibitive price point excepted, as that's not VL-centric). And the VFC/Diamond poll differences is a nice illustration of that to me. Well, it's vindication to me, but it's a nicely illustrated vidication.

I think I undertsand more clearly.

So would calling on VEI to actually refute my concerns that I have about their capability to be a viable publisher, and more importantly what I feel their true motives are as opposed to what *I believe* they want us to perceive those motives to be, would this be leading with heart or head?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:23:12 pm

First (and only to let the record show), my comment was not directed at any of the "What is VEI up to?/I wish they'd say something to us" people/threads. It was directed at more specific, you know, publishing suggestions.

I'd say you're leading with the heart, as Dinesh's last official communique here was, essentially, "We're working on some stuff and will not posting on the boards for the forseeable future."

And, I've posted many times that VEI has never claimed to be a comics publisher. And that's using their own words (those who haven't checked out their website can do so to see those very words). But, also using their own words, they plan to publish pamphlets at some point in time. So anyone who wants to believe that VEI is primarily a funnybook company is leading with the heart as well.

I have some emotional engagement around this issue, myself, and would love to know more. But I've been in business long enough to know that, for me, spare me any words that aren't accompanied by actions. And, if the time isn't right to share what those actions are, I'd rather hear the sound of silence. But that's just me.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:01:53 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:It's not you, it's me.

Wait, did you just break up with me?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:27:58 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:Wait, did you just break up with me?

You wish. I am the foot fungus on your flipper of fandom. You'll not be ride of me that easily.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:33:07 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Wait, did you just break up with me?
You wish. I am the foot fungus on your flipper of fandom. You'll not be ride of me that easily.

BOH = Boyfriend of Hobo?

[ducks, runs like hell.]

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:40:42 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:First (and only to let the record show), my comment was not directed at any of the "What is VEI up to?/I wish they'd say something to us" people/threads. It was directed at more specific, you know, publishing suggestions.

I'd say you're leading with the heart, as Dinesh's last official communique here was, essentially, "We're working on some stuff and will not posting on the boards for the forseeable future."

And, I've posted many times that VEI has never claimed to be a comics publisher. And that's using their own words (those who haven't checked out their website can do so to see those very words). But, also using their own words, they plan to publish pamphlets at some point in time. So anyone who wants to believe that VEI is primarily a funnybook company is leading with the heart as well.

I have some emotional engagement around this issue, myself, and would love to know more. But I've been in business long enough to know that, for me, spare me any words that aren't accompanied by actions. And, if the time isn't right to share what those actions are, I'd rather hear the sound of silence. But that's just me.

Well said.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:44:09 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Wait, did you just break up with me?
You wish. I am the foot fungus on your flipper of fandom. You'll not be ride of me that easily.

I feel I need to draw reference here to ride....

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:49:29 pm

leonmallett wrote:I feel I need to draw reference here to ride....

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:50:52 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:BOH = Boyfriend of Hobo?

[ducks, runs like hell.]

You should...

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:55:27 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
leonmallett wrote:I feel I need to draw reference here to ride....

Jesus, AYFKM?

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:01:02 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:
leonmallett wrote:I feel I need to draw reference here to ride....

Jesus, AYFKM?

Where the heck did you find that?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:07:05 pm

leonmallett wrote:Where the heck did you find that?

Online.

It's from THE SUN, actually.

UnknownTales · Post by **UnknownTales** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:39:56 pm

The poll is a great idea. Can't wait for these to hit Previews.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:05:34 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
leonmallett wrote:Where the heck did you find that?
Online.

It's from THE SUN, actually.

That image is so...wrong...that it is still making me laugh!

Cheers, mate.

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:15:42 am

I voted for try em all. I already added em to my pull list and they aint even listed yet.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:51:24 am

UnknownTales wrote:The poll is a great idea. Can't wait for these to hit Previews.

+1

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:54:28 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Hobo--you've been rockin' the shocker a LOT lately.
They should bring that character back just so Spidey can give him hell about his name.

x2

-slym

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:44:44 pm

http://poll.fm/14h8n

sweeet!

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:45:28 pm

*SQUEE* wrote:I voted for try em all. I already added em to my pull list and they aint even listed yet.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:09:29 pm

This is a cool poll. I wish it showed the exact vote tally, though, and not just the % of votes. I'd like to see how much response it's getting.