Who is The Most Powerful Valiant villain?

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:13 am

What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:18 am

Draco wrote:Harada.

He is the Doc Doom of Valiant.

Not necessarrilly the most powerful in terms of actual power level inside him, but what he represents and what he is capable of achieving on top of the actual power he harnesses.

I always thought Magneto.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:10 am

iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.

In Giffen's abomination, they did.....

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:14 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....

Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:18 am

JonesyAZ wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...

IMO, he ruined everything good about Magnus and the characters surrounding him. It was almost as if he truly hated the book and wanted to see it die a slow and miserable death.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:23 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....

I guessed I blocked that out. Thanks for the reminder.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:25 am

JonesyAZ wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...

Its strange really as i love pretty much anything that mad does, but to be fair the Magnus stuff was alomst unrecognisable as his.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:26 am

iggy101us wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
I guessed I blocked that out. Thanks for the reminder.

Can't blame you for blocking that mess out.....wish I could.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:57 am

LordofBrooklyn wrote:In the spirit of fandom fun, I pose this question.

Who is the most powerful villain in the Valiant universe?

...

Jim Shooter if the court papers are to be believed...?

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:12 pm

Uzzi the clown.

Sven · Post by **Sven** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:45 pm

siren3-4 wrote:Sven . . . he rules over all . . .

Correct.

dellamorte wrote:I thought I killed that *SQUEE*.

Incorrect.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:47 pm

Sven wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:Sven . . . he rules over all . . .
Correct.

dellamorte wrote:I thought I killed that *SQUEE*.
Incorrect.

£%<&!!! He's back!

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:55 pm

I would have to say Aric.

A selfish, power-hungry savage who beats down everyone who stands in his way, holds a man hostage for half the run of the X-O series and is quite open about his intentions to commit genocide. On top of that he is in possession of one of the most powerful WMDs ever to fall into the hands of man.

Not a nice man at all.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:14 pm

Drift wrote:I would have to say Aric.

A selfish, power-hungry savage who beats down everyone who stands in his way, holds a man hostage for half the run of the X-O series and is quite open about his intentions to commit genocide. On top of that he is in possession of one of the most powerful WMDs ever to fall into the hands of man.

Not a nice man at all.

Aric rules!

comicsyte95 · Post by **comicsyte95** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:06 pm

I have to say Solar he created his whole alternate earth by destroying his, if he didnt do that and then went back in time the whole Valiant universe wouldnt have been created and it would just be "normal".Any schitzoid personality of his can destroy it again at any time.Like Harada said he is too powerful to exist.Even the most honorable heroe can be evil if his good intentions and actions backfire on him.

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:06 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...
IMO, he ruined everything good about Magnus and the characters surrounding him. It was almost as if he truly hated the book and wanted to see it die a slow and miserable death.

to loosely quote the Billy Madison movie---
Giffen's magnus was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in his rambling, incoherent work was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who read it is now dumber for having done so. It should forever be wiped from your memory, and may God have mercy on Giffen's soul for having written it.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:11 pm

Any of the SpeedShots are rather scary, but they never seem to last...

-slym

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:13 pm

Tim wrote:I'd have to go with Erica Pierce.

I agree with this one - although just think if Rai was a bad guy! He had Erica scared *SQUEE*-less!!!

-slym

h-comics · Post by **h-comics** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:18 pm

Gotta go with the Erica P.She is one crazy a$$ *SQUEE* that for sure.

Jesse

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:19 pm

h-comics wrote:Gotta go with the Erica P.She is one crazy a$$ *SQUEE* that for sure.

The hot ones almost always are, at least a little.

-slym

h-comics · Post by **h-comics** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:21 pm

oh YEAH!!!

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:29 pm

and shes HOOOT

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:55 pm

superman-prime wrote:and shes HOOOT

I especially liked that bit of whispy gauze she wore all through Unity!

-slym

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:15 pm

myron wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...
IMO, he ruined everything good about Magnus and the characters surrounding him. It was almost as if he truly hated the book and wanted to see it die a slow and miserable death.
to loosely quote the Billy Madison movie---
Giffen's magnus was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in his rambling, incoherent work was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who read it is now dumber for having done so. It should forever be wiped from your memory, and may God have mercy on Giffen's soul for having written it.

Brilliant!

Well done, Myron.

dave · Post by **dave** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:14 pm

Blood of Heroes wrote:Let's not forget that Erica Pierce is crazy. The whole being abused/low self esteem/crazy broad type of thing. Being unstable makes you dangerous but probably doesn't help you in the long run. Harada, on the other hand, is a cold, calculating, omega harbinger who is the head of a multinational corporation. Everything he does is done for a reason.

but.....

Does Harada even qualify as a villan? Isn't his his whole thing secure the future of the human race? Sure he might have killed a few people/kids along the way, but you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.....

By your own definition though Harada fits into the crazy category too-remember that since he was "misunderstood and feared" by his parents he killed them. That's a bit unstable as well...

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