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greg
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:59 am 
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...they're all really about the same thing when you really boil it down - that God is just as bad as Satan.

Has he done a book where everyone drowns except for a drunk and his incestuous family? :hm:


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kevinbastos
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:31 am 
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I'm not an Ennis expert - by ANY means.

All I have read was Shadowman V2 1-4.

And then he left.

And those stunk.

I just never understood the hype - having only read those books.

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greg wrote:
Heath wrote:
...they're all really about the same thing when you really boil it down - that God is just as bad as Satan.

Has he done a book where everyone drowns except for a drunk and his incestuous family? :hm:


I don't know. I haven't read everything he's written. Just enough to make that opinion.
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Daniel Jackson
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:18 am 
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kevinbastos wrote:
I'm not an Ennis expert - by ANY means.

All I have read was Shadowman V2 1-4.

And then he left.

And those stunk.

I just never understood the hype - having only read those books.


His style was way too dark and gritty. Acclaim finally realized this and retooled the series starting with issue #16 (and on into the VH3 short lived series).
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kevinbastos
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:22 am 
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
I'm not an Ennis expert - by ANY means.

All I have read was Shadowman V2 1-4.

And then he left.

And those stunk.

I just never understood the hype - having only read those books.


His style was way too dark and gritty. Acclaim finally realized this and retooled the series starting with issue #16 (and on into the VH3 short lived series).


The worst part of that whole debacle was that the series had new writers and artists doing a pale imitation of an already unliked version of Shadowman.

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greg wrote:
Heath wrote:
...they're all really about the same thing when you really boil it down - that God is just as bad as Satan.

Has he done a book where everyone drowns except for a drunk and his incestuous family? :hm:


Hey! He saved a lot of animals! Your approach lacks a certain japhetic quality.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:10 pm 
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Do his pants look futuristic?

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In the future, all pants are futuristic.


The best line I've ever read on this board. :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:15 pm 
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Great image, and a great thread. My favorite thread so far on the relaunch.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:10 pm 
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kevinbastos wrote:
The worst part of that whole debacle was that the series had new writers and artists doing a pale imitation of an already unliked version of Shadowman.


:funnypost:

Yeah, that's when they lost me. It makes you wonder if publishers have ever heard of these things called market research, focus groups and fan opinion.

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Great art. I really like that the published a pic with Rai and sorta-Gilad on it.

What/who is that energy X near X-O? It doesn't seem to be Aric's or Rai's, who's is it?

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Ross2 wrote:
Great art. I really like that the published a pic with Rai and sorta-Gilad on it.

What/who is that energy X near X-O? It doesn't seem to be Aric's or Rai's, who's is it?

Visitor? Psi-Lords?


Do you mean the energy that could be Aric's sword?

/Magnus
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Maybe I don't know what it is.
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magnusr wrote:
Ross2 wrote:
Great art. I really like that the published a pic with Rai and sorta-Gilad on it.

What/who is that energy X near X-O? It doesn't seem to be Aric's or Rai's, who's is it?

Visitor? Psi-Lords?


Do you mean the energy that could be Aric's sword?

/Magnus


Of course it is. That's the sword he's holding on Ribic's cover.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:37 pm 
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I'm super excited that Rai looks exactly like how Tohru used to look like.

Outstanding!
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Ross2 wrote:
I'm super excited that Rai looks exactly like how Tohru used to look like.

Outstanding!


+1

Personally I am hoping the new Rai is Tohru...

He was one of my favorites characters from the original universe, even though he wasn't in it very long.

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Chiclo wrote:
greg wrote:
Heath wrote:
...they're all really about the same thing when you really boil it down - that God is just as bad as Satan.

Has he done a book where everyone drowns except for a drunk and his incestuous family? :hm:


Hey! He saved a lot of animals! Your approach lacks a certain japhetic quality.


Tell that to Jesus DeSade from Preacher. He loved sodomizing Aardvarks.
:lol:

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Chiclo wrote:
Hey! He saved a lot of animals! Your approach lacks a certain japhetic quality.


Ooh! A new word for me. Thanks! Now I have to think of a way to work that into a casual conversation...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:15 am 
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Chiclo wrote:
Hey! He saved a lot of animals! Your approach lacks a certain japhetic quality.

:lol:

If a bomb killed all but 2 (or 7, depending upon whether humans are kosher) people on earth, would you say the bomb saved a lot of people?
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Chiclo
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greg wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
Hey! He saved a lot of animals! Your approach lacks a certain japhetic quality.

:lol:

If a bomb killed all but 2 (or 7, depending upon whether humans are kosher) people on earth, would you say the bomb saved a lot of people?


No, nor would I say Noah were properly compared to the bomb in this parable.
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