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Is Rob Liefeld calling BS on the Valiant sales numbers?

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He sounds bitter.

robertliefeld ‏ @robertliefeld More than SAGA, FATALE, WALKING DEAD ???? Hmmmm RT @bleedingcool X-O Manowar Hits Over 42,000 Pre Orders http://bcool.bz/IrT96s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

robertliefeld ‏ @robertliefeld I smell a page out of the DYNAMITE playbook...

Warren Simons ‏ @warrensimons care to clarify what that playbook is @robertliefeld? I can get you a copy of X-O 1 early if you want to see what everyone's talking about


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Rob wouldn't understand XO. There's no light draft beer, white powders, floozies, grins with SHEETS of teeth, bulging biceps that defy the laws of gravity, men with boobs, pouches and guns bigger than the pentagon.

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Why would Rob Liefeld even care is my question, how would it affect him either way? Once a d1ckhead always a d1ckhead.
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MarrowMan wrote:Why would Rob Liefeld even care is my question, how would it affect him either way?
Exactly. Seems petty on his part to try and cast doubt on the numbers.

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Screw him!!!

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Crow331 wrote:He sounds bitter.

robertliefeld ‏ @robertliefeld More than SAGA, FATALE, WALKING DEAD ???? Hmmmm RT @bleedingcool X-O Manowar Hits Over 42,000 Pre Orders http://bcool.bz/IrT96s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Warren Simons ‏ @warrensimons care to clarify what that playbook is @robertliefeld? I can get you a copy of X-O 1 early if you want to see what everyone's talking about


Go get 'em Warren! :clap: :lol:

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Considering this is a guy who just relaunched his studio's 90s books with pretty good success, following a similar "playbook" of modernizing with superior creative teams, this shouldn't baffle him in any way.

Meanwhile, next month I hear Rob is debuting a new member of Youngblood who is a 5th century Ostrogoth who is kidnapped by Scorpo-aliens and steals a high tech suit called Z-Y Guy-of-Fighting.
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Rob Liefield is just being a bitter jerk. :mad:
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BugsySig wrote:Considering this is a guy who just relaunched his studio's 90s books with pretty good success, following a similar "playbook" of modernizing with superior creative teams, this shouldn't baffle him in any way.

Meanwhile, next month I hear Rob is debuting a new member of Youngblood who is a 5th century Ostrogoth who is kidnapped by Scorpo-aliens and steals a high tech suit called Z-Y Guy-of-Fighting.
Hahahaha....but his character will have a humongous gun and tiny feet.

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To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
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BugsySig wrote:Considering this is a guy who just relaunched his studio's 90s books with pretty good success, following a similar "playbook" of modernizing with superior creative teams, this shouldn't baffle him in any way.

Meanwhile, next month I hear Rob is debuting a new member of Youngblood who is a 5th century Ostrogoth who is kidnapped by Scorpo-aliens and steals a high tech suit called Z-Y Guy-of-Fighting.
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He's always sucked in my book BTW :rant:
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Someone needs to remind Rob it's a business and a big part of it is called
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BugsySig wrote:Considering this is a guy who just relaunched his studio's 90s books with pretty good success, following a similar "playbook" of modernizing with superior creative teams, this shouldn't baffle him in any way.

Meanwhile, next month I hear Rob is debuting a new member of Youngblood who is a 5th century Ostrogoth who is kidnapped by Scorpo-aliens and steals a high tech suit called Z-Y Guy-of-Fighting.

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400yrs wrote:To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
Name a recent #1 issue that was successful and has no variants.

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Daniel Jackson wrote:
BugsySig wrote:Considering this is a guy who just relaunched his studio's 90s books with pretty good success, following a similar "playbook" of modernizing with superior creative teams, this shouldn't baffle him in any way.

Meanwhile, next month I hear Rob is debuting a new member of Youngblood who is a 5th century Ostrogoth who is kidnapped by Scorpo-aliens and steals a high tech suit called Z-Y Guy-of-Fighting.
Hahahaha....but his character will have a humongous gun and tiny feet.
Or no feet. And 780 teeth in a smile wider than the grand canyon.
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400yrs wrote:To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
Name a recent #1 issue that was successful and has no variants.
Manhattan projects #1 (there are variant's but of the 2nd and 3rd printings)

My point is that there are some out there with no Variants.
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400yrs wrote:To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
Rob Liefeld complaining about variant covers boosting sales would be like Obama complaining about minority voters.
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MarrowMan wrote:
greg wrote:
400yrs wrote:To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
Name a recent #1 issue that was successful and has no variants.
Manhattan projects #1 (there are variant's but of the 2nd and 3rd printings)

My point is that there are some out there with no Variants.
Manhattan Projects #1 (1st print) sold 17,955 copies.

I think it's safe to say that the X-O #1 Regular cover will beat it by itself. Is that not worth celebrating?

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greg wrote:
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400yrs wrote:To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
Name a recent #1 issue that was successful and has no variants.
Manhattan projects #1 (there are variant's but of the 2nd and 3rd printings)

My point is that there are some out there with no Variants.
Manhattan Projects #1 (1st print) sold 17,955 copies.

I think it's safe to say that the X-O #1 Regular cover will beat it by itself. Is that not worth celebrating?
the more people who get X-O #1 in their hands, the better, IMO. I could care less if it had 1 or 1 000 000 000 000 Variant covers.

I think it would've sold a lot regardless.
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400yrs wrote:To be fair, I see what he is saying. It's the variants that are boosting the initial sales on issue #1. There's no denying that.
Name a recent #1 issue that was successful and has no variants.

Saga. The C2E2 doesn't count because it wasn't a launch book.

On a smaller scale, many other Image #1s. And if we are talking about books with only one variant and not three, then alot more books.



Marvel and DC usually will do one variant cover unless it's one of their main books and they may do more than one variant, but not always. Dynamite comes up with lots of variants. 4 different covers is alot of different covers.

I'm not saying they are over-doing it like Dynamite does, but that I can see his point.


I bet if Warren sends him a copy of the book, he will read it and will say good things about it. Rob loves comics. He has lots of haters though.
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I just sent rob a tweet:

@robertliefeld VFans are strong! http://ValiantFans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has keeping the flame going for 10+ yrs. How has http://Youngbloodfans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; been doing?


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