March 2015 Sales Discussion
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March 2015 Sales Discussion
And so it begins...
Retail:
MARVEL COMICS 38.82%
DC COMICS 23.01%
IMAGE COMICS 11.39%
IDW PUBLISHING 6.51%
DARK HORSE COMICS 3.90%
BOOM! STUDIOS 2.41%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 2.37%
EAGLEMOSS PUBLICATIONS LTD 1.83%
TITAN COMICS 1.01%
VIZ MEDIA 0.98%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 7.76%
Unit:
MARVEL COMICS 41.53%
DC COMICS 26.13%
IMAGE COMICS 12.98%
IDW PUBLISHING 5.16%
DARK HORSE COMICS 3.07%
BOOM! STUDIOS 2.44%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 1.99%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC 0.99%
TITAN COMICS 0.77%
AVATAR PRESS INC 0.69%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 4.24%
Retail:
MARVEL COMICS 38.82%
DC COMICS 23.01%
IMAGE COMICS 11.39%
IDW PUBLISHING 6.51%
DARK HORSE COMICS 3.90%
BOOM! STUDIOS 2.41%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 2.37%
EAGLEMOSS PUBLICATIONS LTD 1.83%
TITAN COMICS 1.01%
VIZ MEDIA 0.98%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 7.76%
Unit:
MARVEL COMICS 41.53%
DC COMICS 26.13%
IMAGE COMICS 12.98%
IDW PUBLISHING 5.16%
DARK HORSE COMICS 3.07%
BOOM! STUDIOS 2.44%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 1.99%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC 0.99%
TITAN COMICS 0.77%
AVATAR PRESS INC 0.69%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 4.24%
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Already? Fine. Let me get us started, m'kay?
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and some gloom for good measure.
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and some gloom for good measure.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
If I had 1% of the comic industry, I'd be pretty happy. I'd also be pretty determined, as there is lots of room for growth. Exciting times for a start up.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
i give valiant 6 months ![Frustrated :!:](./images/smilies/893frustrated.gif)
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
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nycjadie wrote:If I had 1% of the comic industry, I'd be pretty happy. I'd also be pretty determined, as there is lots of room for growth. Exciting times for a start up.
Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
+1000bygranddesign wrote:i give valiant 6 months
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Wow, look at Image and IDW just completely stealing market share from DC. Marvel's still doing fine, but this seems like 2 solid months of DC just crumbling, no?
I know this is Valiant talk (and very glad they remain in the Top 10 Unit Shares), but overall market thoughts, anyone?
I know this is Valiant talk (and very glad they remain in the Top 10 Unit Shares), but overall market thoughts, anyone?
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
DC is suffering. The post coital glow of the New 52 has long since worn off. Convergence will be a brief bump which I'm sure they hope will last them until they start pumping out Justice League movies.Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:Wow, look at Image and IDW just completely stealing market share from DC. Marvel's still doing fine, but this seems like 2 solid months of DC just crumbling, no?
I know this is Valiant talk (and very glad they remain in the Top 10 Unit Shares), but overall market thoughts, anyone?
IDW has been killing it in sales lately. Unfortunately I can't name one book they publish outside of GI Joe, Transformers and TMNT.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
I was really hoping for a big jump in sales with all of these Valiant Next books, but it's just not happening... I really hate the whole industry sometimes.
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Wow, that's pessimistic.bygranddesign wrote:i give valiant 6 months
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Three words.... My Little Pony. I'm always amazed but three or four MLP books end up in the top 300 in sales every month (usually at least 2 in the top 100) Who knew there were so many Bronies out there?! They (IDW) also license Judge Dredd; three books there; JD, JD classics, and Anderson Psi Division.BugsySig wrote:DC is suffering. The post coital glow of the New 52 has long since worn off. Convergence will be a brief bump which I'm sure they hope will last them until they start pumping out Justice League movies.Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:Wow, look at Image and IDW just completely stealing market share from DC. Marvel's still doing fine, but this seems like 2 solid months of DC just crumbling, no?
I know this is Valiant talk (and very glad they remain in the Top 10 Unit Shares), but overall market thoughts, anyone?
IDW has been killing it in sales lately. Unfortunately I can't name one book they publish outside of GI Joe, Transformers and TMNT.
Wonder what Convergence will mean for DC? 40 books ? wow thats gotta hurt a wallet...Although most are 2 part minis I believe; still a big owww to the leather.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
It was a jokeTheFerg714 wrote:Wow, that's pessimistic.bygranddesign wrote:i give valiant 6 months
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People have been saying Valiant wouldn't last 6 months since the relaunch - so just making fun of those people
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What I really believe is that Dinesh and company have a rough outline of the next 10 years planned out - and i'm going to enjoy the ride
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
ha yeah! you will see a lot of doom and gloom jokes in the sales thread.bygranddesign wrote:It was a jokeTheFerg714 wrote:Wow, that's pessimistic.bygranddesign wrote:i give valiant 6 months
People have been saying Valiant wouldn't last 6 months since the relaunch - so just making fun of those people![]()
What I really believe is that Dinesh and company have a rough outline of the next 10 years planned out - and i'm going to enjoy the ride
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Seriously, you'd think we were all Doombots if you only read sales threads...ilzuccone wrote:ha yeah! you will see a lot of doom and gloom jokes in the sales thread.bygranddesign wrote:It was a jokeTheFerg714 wrote:Wow, that's pessimistic.bygranddesign wrote:i give valiant 6 months
People have been saying Valiant wouldn't last 6 months since the relaunch - so just making fun of those people![]()
What I really believe is that Dinesh and company have a rough outline of the next 10 years planned out - and i'm going to enjoy the ride
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Is anyone going to do a sales comparison from last month to this month? Would log ego see how the books did after all the movie money news came out...
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Orders for March were due in January. Movie news probably won't have any effect until the books that come out in May.Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:Is anyone going to do a sales comparison from last month to this month? Would log ego see how the books did after all the movie money news came out...
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Regardless, doesn't someone always do a month by month comparison? I forget who it is?jeremycoe wrote:Orders for March were due in January. Movie news probably won't have any effect until the books that come out in May.Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:Is anyone going to do a sales comparison from last month to this month? Would log ego see how the books did after all the movie money news came out...
Ninjak was #97 this month!
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
97 Ninjak #1 24,351
196 Divinity #2 9,384
210 The Valiant #4 8,795
232 X-O Manowar #5 7,265
234 Imperium #2 7,202
259 Ivar Timewalker #3 6,409
281 Unity #16 5,548
325 Quantum & Woody Must Die #3 4,460
196 Divinity #2 9,384
210 The Valiant #4 8,795
232 X-O Manowar #5 7,265
234 Imperium #2 7,202
259 Ivar Timewalker #3 6,409
281 Unity #16 5,548
325 Quantum & Woody Must Die #3 4,460
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Divinity could be the sleeper with numbers that low.
In 10 years, people will pay big money for these Quantum books. The print Run is ridiculously low. So is Unity now. If that is the Valiant Avengers book, then it will be good to get these books.
In 10 years, people will pay big money for these Quantum books. The print Run is ridiculously low. So is Unity now. If that is the Valiant Avengers book, then it will be good to get these books.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
I think we can finally deduce that people are tired of Quantum & Woody. Either that or everyone buys the arcs in trade. Please make it stop now.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
i'm a q and w fan. but this run is not grabbing my attention.BugsySig wrote:I think we can finally deduce that people are tired of Quantum & Woody. Either that or everyone buys the arcs in trade. Please make it stop now.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
Probably never a better name for a book than Quantum & Woody Must Die.ilzuccone wrote:i'm a q and w fan. but this run is not grabbing my attention.BugsySig wrote:I think we can finally deduce that people are tired of Quantum & Woody. Either that or everyone buys the arcs in trade. Please make it stop now.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
I have to agree. I'm not a Quantum & Woody fan, either. Especially at the expense of missing out on other VEI characters.depluto wrote:Probably never a better name for a book than Quantum & Woody Must Die.ilzuccone wrote:i'm a q and w fan. but this run is not grabbing my attention.BugsySig wrote:I think we can finally deduce that people are tired of Quantum & Woody. Either that or everyone buys the arcs in trade. Please make it stop now.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
+1BugsySig wrote:I think we can finally deduce that people are tired of Quantum & Woody. Either that or everyone buys the arcs in trade. Please make it stop now.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
I've talked to one or two LCS's that have said Q&W is their best selling Valiant book.
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Re: March 2015 Sales Discussion
keep in mind Divinity #1 is going into 4th printing and #2 into 2nd printing.nycjadie wrote:Divinity could be the sleeper with numbers that low.
also, it should be X-O Manowar #34, not #5
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