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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
At a convention a while back, Warren Simons responded to criticism about the number of variants with a comment something along the lines of that the sales numbers show that people like them, so they were going to keep making them as long as people keep buying them. I can understand that as a business decision, and will still pick up many of the Pullbox variant covers, but normally avoid the incentives. With this mini, however, I don't want to add to any indication that this is something I'd like to see again, and will be avoiding the books surrounding the event unless there's an option to read the Legends mini at a reasonable price. I figure with the deep discounts to the Book of Death mini, and the number of those issues that a retailer will be required to order to get the Legends mini, I'll see a lot of these books in discount boxes at NYCC. Especially as it's still a gain for a dealer to let them go for a dollar than return them. I can empathize with a comment made earlier, about not liking being in a position where they want to see something that VEI does fail. But what would be worse in the long run is for this sort of promotion to become commonplace in the industry.
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mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
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agent_graves wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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ShadowTuga wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I think exactly the opposite. I hope that doesn't make you think I'm a moron or something. Because I WANT to support this.
Since this was your 1st post, I guess we won't be seeing you around here often? Anyway, hello and welcome.
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Yeeeeaaahhhh, no. If this turns out a success for VEI, they WILL do it again. And other publishers WILL try it themselves. Remember the last time the industry embraced one sales gimmick in unison? Remember how the industry is just now beginning to recover from the fallout of that?

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DantePD wrote:
ShadowTuga wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I think exactly the opposite. I hope that doesn't make you think I'm a moron or something. Because I WANT to support this.
Since this was your 1st post, I guess we won't be seeing you around here often? Anyway, hello and welcome.
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Yeeeeaaahhhh, no. If this turns out a success for VEI, they WILL do it again. And other publishers WILL try it themselves. Remember the last time the industry embraced one sales gimmick in unison? Remember how the industry is just now beginning to recover from the fallout of that?
This time the industry has Hollywood at their backs. And Chinese.

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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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agent_graves wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
That's the problem, a lot of us AREN'T willing to spend $20 on a variant. We're just here for good stories and we're not allowed to read said story due to some crackheaded fourth wall gimmick.

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DantePD wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
That's the problem, a lot of us AREN'T willing to spend $20 on a variant. We're just here for good stories and we're not allowed to read said story due to some crackheaded fourth wall gimmick.
But, you are allowed to read it, you just got to pay the cost, that's all.
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magnusr wrote:
Paul Nolan wrote:I can not see DCBS honouring the order once they realize they need to order 125 copies of Book of the Dead per customer who has ordered 5 geomancers.
At the same time they manage that for roughly every two 1:60s ordered so it would be a shame if they adjust people's orders. Or maybe they end up returning 100 copies of every 125, which would really be a pity. We'll see.

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Paul was right and I was wrong. DCBS did not honor their own solicitation. Incredible. Their orders are already paid for by people ordering the variants, and it's a fully returnable book anyway, but still they try to sqeeze $18 extra from the customers and make people mad at Valiant in the process.

Considering some things they've done previously, and considering their strange explanations when asked about it, I should have known better. The one good thing is that they will not abuse the returnability of the books.

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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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agent_graves wrote:
DantePD wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
That's the problem, a lot of us AREN'T willing to spend $20 on a variant. We're just here for good stories and we're not allowed to read said story due to some crackheaded fourth wall gimmick.
But, you are allowed to read it, you just got to pay the cost, that's all.

IF you can sweet talk your retailer into ordering enough copies of BOD to be able to order one copy of LOG. And you get to be the customer who gets to buy that copy. And you're willing to spend minimum $20 on a $4.99 book on it's day of release. (And don't pull out the "it's worth what people will pay" crap. We both know that price is ridiculous for something that's only scarce due to it's gimmick.)

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DantePD wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
DantePD wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
That's the problem, a lot of us AREN'T willing to spend $20 on a variant. We're just here for good stories and we're not allowed to read said story due to some crackheaded fourth wall gimmick.
But, you are allowed to read it, you just got to pay the cost, that's all.

IF you can sweet talk your retailer into ordering enough copies of BOD to be able to order one copy of LOG. And you get to be the customer who gets to buy that copy. And you're willing to spend minimum $20 on a $4.99 book on it's day of release. (And don't pull out the "it's worth what people will pay" crap. We both know that price is ridiculous for something that's only scarce due to it's gimmick.)
But it's still scarce, gimmick or not...
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All credit to Dinesh and Valiant. They're going to try and contact my comic supplier.

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kjjohanson wrote:At a convention a while back, Warren Simons responded to criticism about the number of variants with a comment something along the lines of that the sales numbers show that people like them, so they were going to keep making them as long as people keep buying them. I can understand that as a business decision, and will still pick up many of the Pullbox variant covers, but normally avoid the incentives. With this mini, however, I don't want to add to any indication that this is something I'd like to see again, and will be avoiding the books surrounding the event unless there's an option to read the Legends mini at a reasonable price. I figure with the deep discounts to the Book of Death mini, and the number of those issues that a retailer will be required to order to get the Legends mini, I'll see a lot of these books in discount boxes at NYCC. Especially as it's still a gain for a dealer to let them go for a dollar than return them. I can empathize with a comment made earlier, about not liking being in a position where they want to see something that VEI does fail. But what would be worse in the long run is for this sort of promotion to become commonplace in the industry.
People like them....I call bull$h!t. The only reason they continue with variants is because it freakin inflates their order numbers. If they printed every cover equally they would not have the orders they are getting. Stupid a$$ dealers are ordering just what they need in order to get the variant so they can sell it at higher price than the standard cover. Just because your own dealer doesn't jack up the price of variants, doesn't mean the rest of industry isn't. I'm sorry but there's a lot a$$h0les in this business just looking to make a quick buck. Publishers are just playing right into their hands.

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cray_ws wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:At a convention a while back, Warren Simons responded to criticism about the number of variants with a comment something along the lines of that the sales numbers show that people like them, so they were going to keep making them as long as people keep buying them. I can understand that as a business decision, and will still pick up many of the Pullbox variant covers, but normally avoid the incentives. With this mini, however, I don't want to add to any indication that this is something I'd like to see again, and will be avoiding the books surrounding the event unless there's an option to read the Legends mini at a reasonable price. I figure with the deep discounts to the Book of Death mini, and the number of those issues that a retailer will be required to order to get the Legends mini, I'll see a lot of these books in discount boxes at NYCC. Especially as it's still a gain for a dealer to let them go for a dollar than return them. I can empathize with a comment made earlier, about not liking being in a position where they want to see something that VEI does fail. But what would be worse in the long run is for this sort of promotion to become commonplace in the industry.
People like them....I call bull$h!t. The only reason they continue with variants is because it freakin inflates their order numbers. If they printed every cover equally they would not have the orders they are getting. Stupid a$$ dealers are ordering just what they need in order to get the variant so they can sell it at higher price than the standard cover. Just because your own dealer doesn't jack up the price of variants, doesn't mean the rest of industry isn't. I'm sorry but there's a lot a$$h0les in this business just looking to make a quick buck. Publishers are just playing right into their hands.
Well, they determine whether people "like" them by sales. The bottom line is whether people buy them. Of course that doesn't take into account collectors who want to have a complete collection but would rather that that "complete" collection only includes a single copy of every issue. I understand that that's the reality of the modern industry, and have therefore given up trying to be a completist collector. But I would still like to be a completist reader, without having to fork over a stack of money for each issue in a series.
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agent_graves wrote:
DantePD wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
mietha wrote:As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.
I just... I just don't get it, if you are willing to pay $20 for a 1:25 variant, what's the difference, this variant (LOTG) actually has original content inside, 24pgs, I might add. We're actually getting something out of this deal...
That's the problem, a lot of us AREN'T willing to spend $20 on a variant. We're just here for good stories and we're not allowed to read said story due to some crackheaded fourth wall gimmick.
But, you are allowed to read it, you just got to pay the cost, that's all.
As I've said before. If VEI, Marvel, DC, Image, etc. published a new 24 page book with a cover price of $20 (remember some places are selling it for more), there would be an outcry from the community about how ridiculous that price was and no one would buy it. That is a hypothetical where there is no "catch" for retailers to order it. Add in VEI's catch, and I don't understand how anyone can be happy with this move (other than VEI and their investors if it improves the bottom line).
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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
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kjjohanson wrote:At a convention a while back, Warren Simons responded to criticism about the number of variants with a comment something along the lines of that the sales numbers show that people like them, so they were going to keep making them as long as people keep buying them. I can understand that as a business decision, and will still pick up many of the Pullbox variant covers, but normally avoid the incentives. With this mini, however, I don't want to add to any indication that this is something I'd like to see again, and will be avoiding the books surrounding the event unless there's an option to read the Legends mini at a reasonable price. I figure with the deep discounts to the Book of Death mini, and the number of those issues that a retailer will be required to order to get the Legends mini, I'll see a lot of these books in discount boxes at NYCC. Especially as it's still a gain for a dealer to let them go for a dollar than return them. I can empathize with a comment made earlier, about not liking being in a position where they want to see something that VEI does fail. But what would be worse in the long run is for this sort of promotion to become commonplace in the industry.
People like them....I call bull$h!t. The only reason they continue with variants is because it freakin inflates their order numbers. If they printed every cover equally they would not have the orders they are getting. Stupid a$$ dealers are ordering just what they need in order to get the variant so they can sell it at higher price than the standard cover. Just because your own dealer doesn't jack up the price of variants, doesn't mean the rest of industry isn't. I'm sorry but there's a lot a$$h0les in this business just looking to make a quick buck. Publishers are just playing right into their hands.
I believe those "stupid-a$$ dealers" and the customers buying those variants that incentives said dealers to buy enough to qualify for the variants would be the people who "like them".

You're argument has no legs. VEI said they'll keep doing variants until people stop buying them. People are buying them, so...

This is why I'm torn on this LotG deal. If it successful - Yay for VEI! Better exposure. More readers! But they will do it more often.

If it is a failure, they won't do it again - Yay! No more hoops to jump through just to read an in canon story. But VEI won't get a bigger readership.
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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
I collect floppies because I've been reading comics in that format for years. Knightt and I had a really good discussion years ago about how floppies are just "what comics are" to us. I have trades of some stuff, but floppies are they way to read for me.

I've given thought to trade waiting (and even more thought to picking up book at cons out of quarter boxes) but I'd really miss coming here and discussing the monthlies with you guys. I'd feel like I was missing out on something.

Kind of like how I'll be missing something when I can't talk to you guys about LotG right away, because I'm not dropping $20 on a new comic book.

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Tim wrote: I've given thought to trade waiting (and even more thought to picking up book at cons out of quarter boxes) but I'd really miss coming here and discussing the monthlies with you guys. I'd feel like I was missing out on something.

Kind of like how I'll be missing something when I can't talk to you guys about LotG right away, because I'm not dropping $20 on a new comic book.
This exactly! I've been behind on my comic reading for over 6 months now and as such I can't participate in discussion here when everyone else is. It has definitely made my reading less enjoyable. I cannot wait until I get caught up.

The last time I was able to engage in real time discussion of a VEI book was Bleeding Monk 0. :o
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geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
Because the wait is sometimes unbearable, and also as my commitment to help keep my LCS and VEI alive. They need the monthly readers to keep the cash flow going.

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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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Tim wrote:
geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
I collect floppies because I've been reading comics in that format for years. Knightt and I had a really good discussion years ago about how floppies are just "what comics are" to us. I have trades of some stuff, but floppies are they way to read for me.

I've given thought to trade waiting (and even more thought to picking up book at cons out of quarter boxes) but I'd really miss coming here and discussing the monthlies with you guys. I'd feel like I was missing out on something.

Kind of like how I'll be missing something when I can't talk to you guys about LotG right away, because I'm not dropping $20 on a new comic book.
lorddunlow wrote:This exactly! I've been behind on my comic reading for over 6 months now and as such I can't participate in discussion here when everyone else is. It has definitely made my reading less enjoyable. I cannot wait until I get caught up.

The last time I was able to engage in real time discussion of a VEI book was Bleeding Monk 0. :o
erwinrafael wrote:
geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
Because the wait is sometimes unbearable, and also as my commitment to help keep my LCS and VEI alive. They need the monthly readers to keep the cash flow going.
In addition top the above which I agree with, not everything gets collected in tpb; and indications are that this won't, right?
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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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One sentiment that has popped up in this thread is the movie deal backing, and that Valiant shouldn't have to do this now that they have an influx of investor's money.

To the contrary, those investors want a return on their money. That's the entire reason they're called investors. Valiant needs to try every trick in the book to grow their publishing arm right now, and this is probably a part of that initiative.

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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
1.I still love monthly comics, so I still buy them. But, via Comixology because I've only got so much space in my apartment.

2.Your question is irrelevant to LOG, VEI is telling there will be no trade collection.

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geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
Because if you like a continuing story, its better to support the Comics.

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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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leonmallett wrote:
geocarr wrote:For everyone who places themselves in the "readers only" category - Why don't you buy mostly trades, hardcovers, omnibuses, ad compendiums rather than floppies since they are often cheaper and sometimes contain more "content"?
.....not everything gets collected in tpb; and indications are that this won't, right?
Which is why I used the words above in underlined bold. :)
Even though VEI has said LOG will not be reprinted in trade format, that doesn't preclude other formats including but not limited to hardcovers and omnibus. I believe VEI will reprint the 4 issue LOG story or stories in some format at some point in the future based on nothing but my personal opinion.
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21 pages of this?

If you guys talked up your LCS, fellow readers, or this forum about the positive things this company has done as you have complained about a few books it wouldn't bother me...

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