Bloodshot #0 platinum. (kinda)

[Crow331]

I don't get it. That's a pretty elaborate process which I doubt anyone has done. So you just posted a way to fake the most valuable comic in Valiant.

Why?

Because people were calling him a liar. If this actually works I would never touch a Bloodshot Platinum now (not that I considered it). I think he should of just taken a new photo that was indisputable or a video or something. Posting the process to make one is just .... ugh!

[tchalla8]

Wow! What a thread! Glad I don't have one now...Wally, can you please post your actual results in a new scan?

His delay in posting and actual photo has me questioning this again. Now I'm starting wonder if his process...intricate though it is...didn't actually achieve the desired results. A book that could pass for legitimate.

[Rubiks-Q-Bert]

I don't get it. That's a pretty elaborate process which I doubt anyone has done. So you just posted a way to fake the most valuable comic in Valiant.

Why?

Because people were calling him a liar. If this actually works I would never touch a Bloodshot Platinum now (not that I considered it). I think he should of just taken a new photo that was indisputable or a video or something. Posting the process to make one is just .... ugh!

Let me rephrase that. Why even start this thread. Public service announcement? I just can't wrap my head around this. It can be faked, I think most people knew that but anyone using google now knows exactly how to do it.

[jmatt]

Wow! What a thread! Glad I don't have one now...Wally, can you please post your actual results in a new scan?

His delay in posting and actual photo has me questioning this again. Now I'm starting wonder if his process...intricate though it is...didn't actually achieve the desired results. A book that could pass for legitimate.

Yeah, I'm wavering between feeling like I was too harsh and still not believing. At this point, to convince me he actually had a scan of his succesful duplicate I'd want to have the photo emailed to someone so that the timestamp, etc could be verified.

When I first read the thread, I thought he was trying to sow doubt about the validity of the plats, perhaps he was planning to purchase one and sought to drive down the price. That's the cynic in me. And the fact that we still haven't seen that scan ain't helping.

Then, when it was pointed out that it was the picture from the database, he didn't say "oops, wrong picture" he said "I guess I shouldn't have scanned it", still insinuating that it was, in fact, his photo and it just happened to scan incredibly similar to the database photo. He was still maintaining that the database scan was his book.

The easiest and most reasonable response would have just been to post his scan, which he still hasn't done. It was only after much more pressure that he finally acknowledged the "error" of posting the database photo.

The follow up photo with the plat being 50% obscured by other comics doesn't help. It doesn't, to my eye, appear to be real ... and why take such obvious measures to cover up the book whose validity is suspect?

I hope he emails the scan to someone so the timestamp and picture proves me wrong.

[etos45]

Wow! What a thread! Glad I don't have one now...Wally, can you please post your actual results in a new scan?

His delay in posting and actual photo has me questioning this again. Now I'm starting wonder if his process...intricate though it is...didn't actually achieve the desired results. A book that could pass for legitimate.

Ugh... if you've noticed, he only posts about once a day lately. So let's not start screaming "phony" less than 24 hours since his last post, please. He provided a process that can be tested on a relatively worthless book, so I'm sure someone here will be willing to try to pull it off. If it is even close to not being able to produce the desired results, that's one thing. Otherwise, wouldn't you like to know the risks of you paying $1300+ for a fake?

I'd like a picture (or more), sure, but I think we could wait at least a day or two before using the "fake" card again.

[etos45]

I don't get it. That's a pretty elaborate process which I doubt anyone has done. So you just posted a way to fake the most valuable comic in Valiant.

Why?

Because people were calling him a liar. If this actually works I would never touch a Bloodshot Platinum now (not that I considered it). I think he should of just taken a new photo that was indisputable or a video or something. Posting the process to make one is just .... ugh!

Let me rephrase that. Why even start this thread. Public service announcement? I just can't wrap my head around this. It can be faked, I think most people knew that but anyone using google now knows exactly how to do it.

Truthfully, if I found a way to produce a fake high dollar book, I might post about it here too. I'm not so sure I would have posted how, but I would have posted something. If public searches are a concern, I'm sure Greg could move it back to the Registered Members forum.

[Rufusharley]

knowledge is never a bad thing.

[kevinbastos]

knowledge is never a bad thing.

Qft

[myron]

knowledge is never a bad thing.

Qft

+1

[GGSAE]

Wow! What a thread! Glad I don't have one now...Wally, can you please post your actual results in a new scan?

His delay in posting and actual photo has me questioning this again. Now I'm starting wonder if his process...intricate though it is...didn't actually achieve the desired results. A book that could pass for legitimate.

Ugh... if you've noticed, he only posts about once a day lately. So let's not start screaming "phony" less than 24 hours since his last post, please. He provided a process that can be tested on a relatively worthless book, so I'm sure someone here will be willing to try to pull it off. If it is even close to not being able to produce the desired results, that's one thing. Otherwise, wouldn't you like to know the risks of you paying $1300+ for a fake?

I'd like a picture (or more), sure, but I think we could wait at least a day or two before using the "fake" card again.

Yes, for different reasons we can't assume because he's not posting he's avoiding the subject. I travel for work a lot, so at times I will go many days without being able to log in here - it's not really a priority in my schedule.

[Aram]

I find it quite interesting to see people go so nuts over the possible faking of a likely defective comic...

A cool defect... if it was not intended, but still...

I personally would not be excited if I ordered a Corvette from a dealer in Cherry Red and it came to me in spotty yellow.

Unless it was in fact intended as a test as some have speculated...

[Heath]

I think if this is all real and his process works, then he has done us a great service by sharing it with us.

And I'm with Elveen.

[Chiclo]

I think if this is all real and his process works, then he has done us a great service by sharing it with us.

And I'm with Elveen.

Count me in. Knowing is half the battle.

[caniac]

I think if this is all real and his process works, then he has done us a great service by sharing it with us.

And I'm with Elveen.

Count me in. Knowing is half the battle.

Yep, but I don't know that all hope is lost. Would love to see if this could get by CGC, if that happened then all would be lost on the platinum. If they could tell it's a fake then all CGC copies are solid...right?

[etos45]

I think if this is all real and his process works, then he has done us a great service by sharing it with us.

And I'm with Elveen.

Count me in. Knowing is half the battle.

Yep, but I don't know that all hope is lost. Would love to see if this could get by CGC, if that happened then all would be lost on the platinum. If they could tell it's a fake then all CGC copies are solid...right?

Unless someone learns to do it better.

[MarrowMan]

since no one else has done it, I will.

[wallywest1980]

Yes, I've been working. How awful of me not to spend all of my time on here. Really guys, take your meds. First, to all the people that keep demanding proof, and then saying that my credibility is zero... Really? You want me to feed the trolls? A video is forth coming, and the instructions are up, if you can't be patient, then GO MAKE YOUR OWN! No matter what I post there are going to be people that say it's BS, so I'm content to sit back and wait for someone else to have the guts to try it. Then you can jump on their *SQUEE*. Second, everyone asking if I'll make them copies, honestly, you couldn't afford it if I did. Do the math, the cost of the book, my supplies, 13 hours of my time plus shipping, equals alot more than $20, that's why I was looking for a cheaper way to do something similar for the vvss and offer it to Greg or whoever is in charge. Third, I honestly don't know if this would pass CGC or not, as I am not the CGC. My guess would be short of chemical testing it might sneak through, but as CGC does make errors on a fairly regular basis, who the hell knows? My only option is to send it to them, with a note saying what I did, and ask them if they can detect any of it.Chances are, I'd never be able to use CGC again. So I am waiting for a reply from them as to whether or not this would get me banned before taking that route. Fourth, remember when I said there were probably better and easier ways to do this? Some one sent me a pm last night, pointing out that with a proffesional laser engraver, set correctly, you may be able to 'burn out' the ink in that logo box without peeling the book, or damaging the cover. No,I don't know anyone whos tried it, no I don't know anyone with a laser engraver. Just pointing out that ifit canbe done, someones already beat you to it with a better method. And finally, I've seen the platshot come up for auction far more than fifteen times over the years, never had ANY interest in owning one as any more than an oddity, as it is damaged goods that turned out neat in my opinion. So as far as the 'he's trying to drive down the price' theory goes, people counterfiet hundred dollar bills every day! They must all be fake and there for worthless! Mail me all the ones you don't want any more. Huh, don't see any takers. Thats because Wile E Coyote would come up with a better plan than that. Frankly, I have better things to do than play with trolls that can't be bothered to try something for themselves, so I'm out of here, you guys can b!tch amongst yourselves about how it MUST be impossible, so why even try it? Derps.

[Heath]

Don't let them get to you, Wally. I for one find all of this extremely fascinating - not market values of Platinums, nor the drama of this thread, but the process of doing it - how it's done and how good the results are.

[etos45]

Hey, Marrowman, I'm gonna borrow that image now...



You're on the wrong board if you're looking for trolls, buddy. That is all.

[tchalla8]

Yes, I've been working. How awful of me not to spend all of my time on here. Really guys, take your meds. First, to all the people that keep demanding proof, and then saying that my credibility is zero... Really? You want me to feed the trolls? A video is forth coming, and the instructions are up, if you can't be patient, then GO MAKE YOUR OWN! No matter what I post there are going to be people that say it's BS, so I'm content to sit back and wait for someone else to have the guts to try it. Then you can jump on their *SQUEE*. Second, everyone asking if I'll make them copies, honestly, you couldn't afford it if I did. Do the math, the cost of the book, my supplies, 13 hours of my time plus shipping, equals alot more than $20, that's why I was looking for a cheaper way to do something similar for the vvss and offer it to Greg or whoever is in charge. Third, I honestly don't know if this would pass CGC or not, as I am not the CGC. My guess would be short of chemical testing it might sneak through, but as CGC does make errors on a fairly regular basis, who the hell knows? My only option is to send it to them, with a note saying what I did, and ask them if they can detect any of it.Chances are, I'd never be able to use CGC again. So I am waiting for a reply from them as to whether or not this would get me banned before taking that route. Fourth, remember when I said there were probably better and easier ways to do this? Some one sent me a pm last night, pointing out that with a proffesional laser engraver, set correctly, you may be able to 'burn out' the ink in that logo box without peeling the book, or damaging the cover. No,I don't know anyone whos tried it, no I don't know anyone with a laser engraver. Just pointing out that ifit canbe done, someones already beat you to it with a better method. And finally, I've seen the platshot come up for auction far more than fifteen times over the years, never had ANY interest in owning one as any more than an oddity, as it is damaged goods that turned out neat in my opinion. So as far as the 'he's trying to drive down the price' theory goes, people counterfiet hundred dollar bills every day! They must all be fake and there for worthless! Mail me all the ones you don't want any more. Huh, don't see any takers. Thats because Wile E Coyote would come up with a better plan than that. Frankly, I have better things to do than play with trolls that can't be bothered to try something for themselves, so I'm out of here, you guys can b!tch amongst yourselves about how it MUST be impossible, so why even try it? Derps.

Wally, I wanna be the next to apologize. I shouldn't have piled on like that. You have perfectly valid points.

[jmatt]

Yes, I've been working. ... No matter what I post there are going to be people that say it's BS...

Not so. All you have to do is post the original scan. This is getting silly at this point.

The process may be real, you may even have done it before. But you didn't create a Bloodshot #0 platinum or you'd have posted the original scan by now.

Please don't be angry with me or others in this thread. You made a claim you couldn't back up, you got called on it and now you're upset with us?

This is much ado about very little. I'm happy to let it drop and it's not my intention to be unfriendly. I look forward to the video you're compiling, you obviously know much more about the chemical processes involved in comic covers than I do.

Shake?

[400yrs]

I snagged a copy of it to use as reference when I was working on the copy, and apparently goofed and put the reference shot up instead of my scan.

Put up the picture of your scan which you intended to put up, please.

[X-O HoboJoe]

Does it matter which COOH- acid you use? Are we relying on it as a surfactant?

[SJS4]

Yes, I've been working. How awful of me not to spend all of my time on here. Really guys, take your meds. First, to all the people that keep demanding proof, and then saying that my credibility is zero... Really? You want me to feed the trolls? A video is forth coming, and the instructions are up, if you can't be patient, then GO MAKE YOUR OWN! No matter what I post there are going to be people that say it's BS, so I'm content to sit back and wait for someone else to have the guts to try it. Then you can jump on their *SQUEE*. Second, everyone asking if I'll make them copies, honestly, you couldn't afford it if I did. Do the math, the cost of the book, my supplies, 13 hours of my time plus shipping, equals alot more than $20, that's why I was looking for a cheaper way to do something similar for the vvss and offer it to Greg or whoever is in charge. Third, I honestly don't know if this would pass CGC or not, as I am not the CGC. My guess would be short of chemical testing it might sneak through, but as CGC does make errors on a fairly regular basis, who the hell knows? My only option is to send it to them, with a note saying what I did, and ask them if they can detect any of it.Chances are, I'd never be able to use CGC again. So I am waiting for a reply from them as to whether or not this would get me banned before taking that route. Fourth, remember when I said there were probably better and easier ways to do this? Some one sent me a pm last night, pointing out that with a proffesional laser engraver, set correctly, you may be able to 'burn out' the ink in that logo box without peeling the book, or damaging the cover. No,I don't know anyone whos tried it, no I don't know anyone with a laser engraver. Just pointing out that ifit canbe done, someones already beat you to it with a better method. And finally, I've seen the platshot come up for auction far more than fifteen times over the years, never had ANY interest in owning one as any more than an oddity, as it is damaged goods that turned out neat in my opinion. So as far as the 'he's trying to drive down the price' theory goes, people counterfiet hundred dollar bills every day! They must all be fake and there for worthless! Mail me all the ones you don't want any more. Huh, don't see any takers. Thats because Wile E Coyote would come up with a better plan than that. Frankly, I have better things to do than play with trolls that can't be bothered to try something for themselves, so I'm out of here, you guys can b!tch amongst yourselves about how it MUST be impossible, so why even try it? Derps.

You shouldn't take it so personally. No one here knows who you are, and as we all know the internet is THE place to criticize other people anonymously (didn't you ever see Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back?!?).

All kidding aside, this is one of the most "troll free" boards I visit.

[IanAlexavier]

I suggest the next book to receive this process be a different gold book. Lets start making other Plat variants Even if it WASNT a printing error or small run it can still be a variant just like whats been created here before.

A&A Plat anyone?