Valiantentertainment.com: What do you think???

[ManofTheAtom]

After following this theme of the thread [Turok] - I agree with what you are saying here wholeheartedly.

I've certainly enjoyed Valiant's Turok, but for some reason had never thought to think of him in terms of Shooter's departure.

In terms of the Valiant U, he always seemed to just kind of be there - which is less than I would have expected from one of the Big 3 the company started with.

So I've changed my mind about Turok. If in fact there was some grand design for Turok within the Valiant U - then if Shooter comes back or his original blueprint is moved forward, I'd very much like to see what that vision would have looked like.

Now I don't know Layton or Shooter personally, I can only judge this from the printed comics and interviews, but it always seemed to me that Shooter was the one who really had the love and reverence for the classic Gold Key comics.

The fact that Magnus uses obscure references from the GK series, and that it feels like a direct continuation of the sereis right down to the little details alone proves this to me.

That's what leads me to believe that Shooter's Turok, even if Turok lived in the modern era, would have been much closer in tone and feel to the original GK series than it turned out to be.

Could Shooter have turned the modern world into Turok's new Lost Valley?

For someone like Turok, cars and yuppies would have been as alien and dangerous as honkers and cavemen.

It almost begs to have the tagline "New Lost Valley, Same Old Warrior", or something like that.

[Ryan]

After following this theme of the thread [Turok] - I agree with what you are saying here wholeheartedly.

I've certainly enjoyed Valiant's Turok, but for some reason had never thought to think of him in terms of Shooter's departure.

In terms of the Valiant U, he always seemed to just kind of be there - which is less than I would have expected from one of the Big 3 the company started with.

So I've changed my mind about Turok. If in fact there was some grand design for Turok within the Valiant U - then if Shooter comes back or his original blueprint is moved forward, I'd very much like to see what that vision would have looked like.

Now I don't know Layton or Shooter personally, I can only judge this from the printed comics and interviews, but it always seemed to me that Shooter was the one who really had the love and reverence for the classic Gold Key comics.

The fact that Magnus uses obscure references from the GK series, and that it feels like a direct continuation of the sereis right down to the little details alone proves this to me.

That's what leads me to believe that Shooter's Turok, even if Turok lived in the modern era, would have been much closer in tone and feel to the original GK series than it turned out to be.

Could Shooter have turned the modern world into Turok's new Lost Valley?

For someone like Turok, cars and yuppies would have been as alien and dangerous as honkers and cavemen.

It almost begs to have the tagline "New Lost Valley, Same Old Warrior", or something like that.

sounds awesome. I'm still holding out hope for it to happen

[Geomancer]

After following this theme of the thread [Turok] - I agree with what you are saying here wholeheartedly.

I've certainly enjoyed Valiant's Turok, but for some reason had never thought to think of him in terms of Shooter's departure.

In terms of the Valiant U, he always seemed to just kind of be there - which is less than I would have expected from one of the Big 3 the company started with.

So I've changed my mind about Turok. If in fact there was some grand design for Turok within the Valiant U - then if Shooter comes back or his original blueprint is moved forward, I'd very much like to see what that vision would have looked like.

Now I don't know Layton or Shooter personally, I can only judge this from the printed comics and interviews, but it always seemed to me that Shooter was the one who really had the love and reverence for the classic Gold Key comics.

The fact that Magnus uses obscure references from the GK series, and that it feels like a direct continuation of the sereis right down to the little details alone proves this to me.

That's what leads me to believe that Shooter's Turok, even if Turok lived in the modern era, would have been much closer in tone and feel to the original GK series than it turned out to be.

Could Shooter have turned the modern world into Turok's new Lost Valley?

For someone like Turok, cars and yuppies would have been as alien and dangerous as honkers and cavemen.

It almost begs to have the tagline "New Lost Valley, Same Old Warrior", or something like that.

Very interesting.

At the time i felt the Turok series drew its inspiration from Jurassic Park as much as it was drawn the Gold key material. Just an impression of mine since I'm not all too familiar with the Gold Key material.

I agree with that sense of Shooter's love for the Gold Key characters, and its hard not to imagine, looking back at what he did for Magnus and Solar, that he didn't have something similiarly big planned for Turok.

But I can understand how Turok would be a bit more difficult to integrate immediately into the center of action for the emerging Valiant U.

Could he have been, for lack of a better analogy, the Captain America of the Valiant universe, its moral center and go-to leader?

[ManofTheAtom]

After following this theme of the thread [Turok] - I agree with what you are saying here wholeheartedly.

I've certainly enjoyed Valiant's Turok, but for some reason had never thought to think of him in terms of Shooter's departure.

In terms of the Valiant U, he always seemed to just kind of be there - which is less than I would have expected from one of the Big 3 the company started with.

So I've changed my mind about Turok. If in fact there was some grand design for Turok within the Valiant U - then if Shooter comes back or his original blueprint is moved forward, I'd very much like to see what that vision would have looked like.

Now I don't know Layton or Shooter personally, I can only judge this from the printed comics and interviews, but it always seemed to me that Shooter was the one who really had the love and reverence for the classic Gold Key comics.

The fact that Magnus uses obscure references from the GK series, and that it feels like a direct continuation of the sereis right down to the little details alone proves this to me.

That's what leads me to believe that Shooter's Turok, even if Turok lived in the modern era, would have been much closer in tone and feel to the original GK series than it turned out to be.

Could Shooter have turned the modern world into Turok's new Lost Valley?

For someone like Turok, cars and yuppies would have been as alien and dangerous as honkers and cavemen.

It almost begs to have the tagline "New Lost Valley, Same Old Warrior", or something like that.

sounds awesome. I'm still holding out hope for it to happen

Wait, wait.

Turok in the California Valley (aka The Valley).

"New Valley, Same Warrior"

Turok in California would be interesting... same with Turok in New York

"New Jungle, Same Warrior"

The premise writes itself.

You can have Turok vs Hollywood or Turok vs New York (and all that it entails).

[ManofTheAtom]

Could he have been, for lack of a better analogy, the Captain America of the Valiant universe, its moral center and go-to leader?

I think he would have definitely assumed the role of teacher and moral compass.

One thing I did dislike about VALIANT after Shooter left was the ease with which certain plots got resolved.

For instance, I would have liked for Bloodshot to spend more time with the mob angle and completely disregard the British agent angle. That was one aspect of the character I didn't like at all.

[Geomancer]

Could he have been, for lack of a better analogy, the Captain America of the Valiant universe, its moral center and go-to leader?

I think he would have definitely assumed the role of teacher and moral compass.

One thing I did dislike about VALIANT after Shooter left was the ease with which certain plots got resolved.

For instance, I would have liked for Bloodshot to spend more time with the mob angle and completely disregard the British agent angle. That was one aspect of the character I didn't like at all.

definitely an interesting angle on the modern world being the new "lost world" and the dinosaur world being home.

As for Bloodshot, his appearance definitely lends itself more to mob hitman than government agent. I ahve to admit though that my favorite Bloodshot story was Rampage.

Perhaps Jim Shooter could have topped that, and maybe we will still get a chance to find out.

[BloodOfHeroes]

Perhaps Jim Shooter could have topped that, and maybe we will still get a chance to find out.

Perhaps. But I doubt it.


BoH