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Keith wrote:Very nice image. Do we take this to mean the Russians got their hands on some Wolf Class Armor? Will the Commando suits be making an appearance <ahem> Armorines!!! <ahem>
Either the Russians have salvaged some tech from the Vine fleet debris, or I was thinking at first they looked a lot like the medical pods Harada was selling.
I thought they were medbots at first too, but it may well be a Wolf-class armor. I hadn't remembered that is what they looked like in the new version.
Did Aric bring back Wolf and Commando class armours from Loam?

When he left he was pretty much their ruler, would he not be well equipped? Is he still in contact with Vine on Loam? I would think so and if that's the case he should be able to order up a squad of Commando armours for his peeps no problem :hm:

What if the new Armorines is a squad of Aric's Visigoths in Commando Armour?
That could be cool. A little down the line Earth gets attacked by oversized bugs and the Visigoths have to defend their new homeland from said oversized bugs... Armourines all over that is.
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hawkeyeps wrote:
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Keith wrote:Very nice image. Do we take this to mean the Russians got their hands on some Wolf Class Armor? Will the Commando suits be making an appearance <ahem> Armorines!!! <ahem>
Either the Russians have salvaged some tech from the Vine fleet debris, or I was thinking at first they looked a lot like the medical pods Harada was selling.
I thought they were medbots at first too, but it may well be a Wolf-class armor. I hadn't remembered that is what they looked like in the new version.
Did Aric bring back Wolf and Commando class armours from Loam?

When he left he was pretty much their ruler, would he not be well equipped? Is he still in contact with Vine on Loam? I would think so and if that's the case he should be able to order up a squad of Commando armours for his peeps no problem :hm:

What if the new Armorines is a squad of Aric's Visigoths in Commando Armour?
I was thinking there is so much tech floating around in the debris ring left over from the Vine fleet, and last issue of X-O we found out other nations were heading into space to mine from it. Not out of the realm of possibility that the Russians secured some intact Wolf Class Armor suits that way

Also, Alexander Dorian was present when Aric took out the Vine Commandos. Maybe he got his hands on those suits and will make a deal with the US Gov't. Lucrative business to be had for Orb Industries as suppliers of the Armorine tech!
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Did anybody notice the picture Kindt just tweeted (I can't figure out how to link to a Tweet)?

There is a page (presumably from Unity) showing X-O and Gilad in the foreground with a figure in the background holding a kitana with a circle oh the chest.

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Image

The left page is apparently something from Dark Horse.

I guess this could be Bloodshot, but he hasn't used a sword in VEI so far.
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lorddunlow wrote:Image

The left page is apparently something from Dark Horse.

I guess this could be Bloodshot, but he hasn't used a sword in VEI so far.
I was literally about to post this. Honestly, I'm not even sure the left page is from Dark Horse. That looks an awful lot like XO (or the armor at least), and isn't that Ninjak in the bottom left panel? Are those two guys on the bottom right "klanging" their bracelets?

Going to go out on a limb here, and say the second arc of Unity will crossover with Bloodshot and/or Eternal Warrior and feature a look into the Valiant Futureverse...including the introduction of Rai!
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I was literally about to post this. Honestly, I'm not even sure the left page is from Dark Horse. That looks an awful lot like XO (or the armor at least), and isn't that Ninjak in the bottom left panel? Are those two guys on the bottom right "klanging" their bracelets?

Going to go out on a limb here, and say the second arc of Unity will crossover with Bloodshot and/or Eternal Warrior and feature a look into the Valiant Futureverse...including the introduction of Rai!
On second look, I think that entire left page may be a parody of Unity (I just noticed the "klanging" and the Ninjak-alike).
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lorddunlow wrote:
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I was literally about to post this. Honestly, I'm not even sure the left page is from Dark Horse. That looks an awful lot like XO (or the armor at least), and isn't that Ninjak in the bottom left panel? Are those two guys on the bottom right "klanging" their bracelets?

Going to go out on a limb here, and say the second arc of Unity will crossover with Bloodshot and/or Eternal Warrior and feature a look into the Valiant Futureverse...including the introduction of Rai!
On second look, I think that entire left page may be a parody of Unity (I just noticed the "klanging" and the Ninjak-alike).
I could see that.
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I was going to say the left page looked like his work from Mind Mgmt, but those are definitely meant to be Valiant characters in there. Maybe he's doing the art for some interlude in Unity?
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Valiant posted the tweet and pics on their Facebook page...curiouser and curiouser...
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I'm trying to figure out what the "#adswap" tag is referring to.
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kjjohanson wrote:I'm trying to figure out what the "#adswap" tag is referring to.
[url]http://www.adswap.com[o/url]

An ad swap is when one internet site swaps an ad with another instead of paying for ad space. Perhaps VALIANT and Dark Horse are swapping some page space? Matt Kindt could draw two strips that appear in the other publisher's book: one for Unity, one for Mind MGMT.
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Keith wrote:
hawkeyeps wrote:
Phoenix8008 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Keith wrote:Very nice image. Do we take this to mean the Russians got their hands on some Wolf Class Armor? Will the Commando suits be making an appearance <ahem> Armorines!!! <ahem>
Either the Russians have salvaged some tech from the Vine fleet debris, or I was thinking at first they looked a lot like the medical pods Harada was selling.
I thought they were medbots at first too, but it may well be a Wolf-class armor. I hadn't remembered that is what they looked like in the new version.
Did Aric bring back Wolf and Commando class armours from Loam?

When he left he was pretty much their ruler, would he not be well equipped? Is he still in contact with Vine on Loam? I would think so and if that's the case he should be able to order up a squad of Commando armours for his peeps no problem :hm:

What if the new Armorines is a squad of Aric's Visigoths in Commando Armour?
I was thinking there is so much tech floating around in the debris ring left over from the Vine fleet, and last issue of X-O we found out other nations were heading into space to mine from it. Not out of the realm of possibility that the Russians secured some intact Wolf Class Armor suits that way

Also, Alexander Dorian was present when Aric took out the Vine Commandos. Maybe he got his hands on those suits and will make a deal with the US Gov't. Lucrative business to be had for Orb Industries as suppliers of the Armorine tech!
Both those seem logical.The ships destroyed had to have allot of tech and even if there wasn't an intact armor reverse engineering a working Armor wouldn't be that difficult with the worlds greatest minds on it.

As well ..If Alexander didn't get the Vine Commando armors maybe the government did.
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BugsySig wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:Image

The left page is apparently something from Dark Horse.

I guess this could be Bloodshot, but he hasn't used a sword in VEI so far.
I was literally about to post this. Honestly, I'm not even sure the left page is from Dark Horse. That looks an awful lot like XO (or the armor at least), and isn't that Ninjak in the bottom left panel? Are those two guys on the bottom right "klanging" their bracelets?

Going to go out on a limb here, and say the second arc of Unity will crossover with Bloodshot and/or Eternal Warrior and feature a look into the Valiant Futureverse...including the introduction of Rai!
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BugsySig wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:I'm trying to figure out what the "#adswap" tag is referring to.
[url]http://www.adswap.com[o/url]

An ad swap is when one internet site swaps an ad with another instead of paying for ad space.
That much I've got. Just trying to figure out what it meant in this context.
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kjjohanson wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:I'm trying to figure out what the "#adswap" tag is referring to.
[url]http://www.adswap.com[o/url]

An ad swap is when one internet site swaps an ad with another instead of paying for ad space.
That much I've got. Just trying to figure out what it meant in this context.
I'm thinking Kindt is drawing a Unity strip to put in Mind MGMT and vice/versa...free advertising for himself.
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So now that the 1st issue is out ... does anyone want to begin to theorize where this title is going long term?

I hope its more than just about a team of misfits ... going from one arc to another fighting a different "enemy" ... I don't think that concept fits the name of Unity which was this brilliantly and carefully constructed narrative that was not only played out through the Unity crossover but was being developed little by little throughout all the pre-unity titles.

i really would like this book to be about some main over arching threat to the earth, to the universe, to time itself aka Erica Peirce/Mothergod

I don't want it to be the same ... but i'd like to see it match that type of ambition and imaginative scope

I do love Matt Kindt's writing and have faith in VEI - it was a great first issue and I have faith it will be a great series. I just want it to be the very best it can be ... and just wondering how this "team" will work out in the long term.
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Well, with the 4001 timeline being introduced around the same time as the first Unity arc is ending, I could see a tie in with the Futureverse, the Faraway, Archer & Armstrong, the Geomancer, Timewalker, Rai, etc that would harken back to VH1 Unity.

If Erica Pierce was to be introduced some how, that would be great, but it would have to be soon in order to develop the character as a threat.

March solicits are only so far away, and VEI has mentioned a few times that Unity's second arc will up the ante. We should start getting some clues pretty soon where this is going.

Overall, though, you are right. This first arc is about pulling the characters together, but there's no way they're going to be sitting around in a mansion somewhere waiting for Master Darque to try to take over the world. They will need an overarching mission that comes out of this initial event.
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BugsySig wrote:Well, with the 4001 timeline being introduced around the same time as the first Unity arc is ending, I could see a tie in with the Futureverse, the Faraway, Archer & Armstrong, the Geomancer, Timewalker, Rai, etc that would harken back to VH1 Unity.
I can see the third arc being a future verse arc with Rai being the leader of Unity :hm:
If Erica Pierce was to be introduced some how, that would be great, but it would have to be soon in order to develop the character as a threat.
yeah, i was hoping for some groundwork being laid/small side story to introduce a major long term threat - aka mothergod
March solicits are only so far away, and VEI has mentioned a few times that Unity's second arc will up the ante. We should start getting some clues pretty soon where this is going.

Overall, though, you are right. This first arc is about pulling the characters together, but there's no way they're going to be sitting around in a mansion somewhere waiting for Master Darque to try to take over the world. They will need an overarching mission that comes out of this initial event.

Maybe the Bleeding Monk? ... A while ago Dysart mentioned working on another major crossover ... either that idea got squashed or maybe he meant working with Kindt on the 2nd arc to Unity. Bleeding Monk #0 leading to the 2nd arc of Unity would make some sense.

FVL has also been laying some great ground work with Ivar and the Far Away ... and with EW starting the futureverse storyline ... we'll see if any of that will eventually tie into Unity.
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I'm fully expecting a big reveal that no one sees coming, as VEI (and Dino in particular) kept saying Unity is something that has not been done before (not just not done by Valiant), meaning this "team book" is not what Unity is about.

I also was thinking about Harada picking the Bleeding Monk's brain about the future for all of his plans prior to the Bleeding Monk leaving HGC. I wonder if the Bleeding Monk informed Harada about this X-O incident before he left. Maybe Harada was informed that the major players in Unity were needed and how to get them to work for him. I really wonder where the Bleeding Monk is now, and what he's been doing.
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lorddunlow wrote:I'm fully expecting a big reveal that no one sees coming, as VEI (and Dino in particular) kept saying Unity is something that has not been done before (not just not done by Valiant), meaning this "team book" is not what Unity is about.

I also was thinking about Harada picking the Bleeding Monk's brain about the future for all of his plans prior to the Bleeding Monk leaving HGC. I wonder if the Bleeding Monk informed Harada about this X-O incident before he left. Maybe Harada was informed that the major players in Unity were needed and how to get them to work for him. I really wonder where the Bleeding Monk is now, and what he's been doing.
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BugsySig wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:I'm fully expecting a big reveal that no one sees coming, as VEI (and Dino in particular) kept saying Unity is something that has not been done before (not just not done by Valiant), meaning this "team book" is not what Unity is about.

I also was thinking about Harada picking the Bleeding Monk's brain about the future for all of his plans prior to the Bleeding Monk leaving HGC. I wonder if the Bleeding Monk informed Harada about this X-O incident before he left. Maybe Harada was informed that the major players in Unity were needed and how to get them to work for him. I really wonder where the Bleeding Monk is now, and what he's been doing.
He came back to HGC at the end of Harbinger Wars.
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I just reread HW #4 and Harbinger #14 (boy, there is a lot of decompression - what was that, 10 minutes?). I don't see him returning. He is in the last pages of HW #4, but he is in Harada's mind garden, not at the HGC.
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lorddunlow wrote:I just reread HW #4 and Harbinger #14 (boy, there is a lot of decompression - what was that, 10 minutes?). I don't see him returning. He is in the last pages of HW #4, but he is in Harada's mind garden, not at the HGC.
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Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.
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