Unity .... what does it MEAN?!!

[lorddunlow]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

+1

[BugsySig]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

+1

Stop agreeing with me. It makes me doubt my own beliefs.

[lorddunlow]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

+1

Stop agreeing with me. It makes me doubt my own beliefs.

[Ras the future fan]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

[BugsySig]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

[lorddunlow]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

+1?

[BugsySig]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top. That's no different than Marvel slapping "Avengers" at the top of every book, and I expect better from VEI.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

+1?

Stop that.

[hawkeyeps]

What if Goldie Boy Lysart hooks up with Silk?

Nanites in the wrong hands gone wild!

edit- And I still haven't forgot the grey goo and Atlee. what's up with all that?

[bygranddesign]

I'm more excited about this 2nd arc than I am about reading the rest of this current one

I think this 1st arc will be good ... but pretty straightforward

This 2nd arc is where we will get to see Kindt lay the ground work for a new villain, further develop a cool character (ninjak) and also perhaps create a bridge to 4002..

[bygranddesign]

What if Goldie Boy Lysart hooks up with Silk?

I like the name Lysart

I will hence forth call crazy train Goldie with human limbs - Lysart from now on and not that other name .. so shall it be written so shall it be done!

[bygranddesign]

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

They could turn it into a War of the Worlds type book ... The long term premise of X-O i would surmise will be his ongoing war with the Vine ... and how the Vine have infiltrated the Earth. Unity could be his team to help fight that ongoing threat and exterminate the Vine from the Earth and their influence throughout the world (and perhaps at some point other worlds as well that have been infiltrated).

Also ... you have these "evil" characters called the Torment in the Planet Death opening issue .. i'm still waiting for them to make their re-appearance.

Ultimately, I think this book was made to peak its head into every corner of the Valiant Universe and tie events and characters together. I'm sure we will see a dark magic arc with Dr. Mirage and Shadowman as part of the tie-in at some point.

I think when Unity is introduced in 4002 it will be something bigger than what it is now - I could see it being this Grandmother type creation, controlling a large portion of the world with RAI in the center of it - Making everyone that becomes part of this Granny/Rai society feel Safe from the chaos outside it's influence...

[blujay]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

Let's face it, as awesome as Crisis/Infinity Gauntlet/Unity are, you can't do them every week, hell I would argue you can't do them every year either (MARVEL). And Unity is not a crossover like the other 3 are, it's an ongoing series so of course it's going to feel more like Avengers than Infinity Gauntlet. Though, as far as I'm concerned this first arc, which unites many of Valiant's big time players to avoid all out war, seems to be up to that scale.

Also wasn't Secret Weapons only a team book for like the first few issues with Doctor Eclipse? After that I thought it was basically just Stronghold and Livewire's book. Plus don't they own the trademark to Unity (which by the way is a cooler and less generic name than "Secret Weapons")? And I know people here would be complaining if they just named a crossover after their old crossover

[BugsySig]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

Let's face it, as awesome as Crisis/Infinity Gauntlet/Unity are, you can't do them every week, hell I would argue you can't do them every year either (MARVEL). And Unity is not a crossover like the other 3 are, it's an ongoing series so of course it's going to feel more like Avengers than Infinity Gauntlet. Though, as far as I'm concerned this first arc, which unites many of Valiant's big time players to avoid all out war, seems to be up to that scale.

Also wasn't Secret Weapons only a team book for like the first few issues with Doctor Eclipse? After that I thought it was basically just Stronghold and Livewire's book. Plus don't they own the trademark to Unity (which by the way is a cooler and less generic name than "Secret Weapons")? And I know people here would be complaining if they just named a crossover after their old crossover

I agree, you can't do those every week. So don't call the book Unity. I think its a bait and switch. And don't say its something that's never been done before if it's been done before, even of it was just for a couple of issues. VALIANT fans are smarter than that (or at least I like to think so ) and VEI knows it.

[lorddunlow]

http://www.newsarama.com/19644-dr-silk- ... ity-5.html
Dr. Silk is back baby! one of the coolest Valiant villains.

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

Let's face it, as awesome as Crisis/Infinity Gauntlet/Unity are, you can't do them every week, hell I would argue you can't do them every year either (MARVEL). And Unity is not a crossover like the other 3 are, it's an ongoing series so of course it's going to feel more like Avengers than Infinity Gauntlet. Though, as far as I'm concerned this first arc, which unites many of Valiant's big time players to avoid all out war, seems to be up to that scale.

Also wasn't Secret Weapons only a team book for like the first few issues with Doctor Eclipse? After that I thought it was basically just Stronghold and Livewire's book. Plus don't they own the trademark to Unity (which by the way is a cooler and less generic name than "Secret Weapons")? And I know people here would be complaining if they just named a crossover after their old crossover

I agree, you can't do those every week. So don't call the book Unity. I think its a bait and switch. And don't say its something that's never been done before if it's been done before, even of it was just for a couple of issues. VALIANT fans are smarter than that (or at least I like to think so ) and VEI knows it.

+1

You really are taking the very words I'm thinking straight out of my head. I can't help but +1 it.

[blujay]

Starting to sound like just a plain old fashioned team book...that would be very disappointing as I believe the name "Unity" should be reserved for only the most epic of story/concept. Otherwise, this is just Secret Weapons (which I asked for for some time, btw) but with the cheap marketing ploy of slapping "Unity" at the top.

So you don't think that Dr. Silk and his WEBNET organisation, is much of a threat.

It's not about the threat, it's about the overall weight of the book and its effect on the larger universe. The Avengers fight off Ultron and the X-Men fight off Apocalypse all the time. They are threats, and while Marvel would like me to believe fighting them is an "event," those battles fall far short of a true event like Unity, Secret Wars or Crisis on Infinite Earths. Those books united entire universes of characters and had long lasting repercussions. Just an all-star team of heroes facing a new threat every few issues doesn't accomplish that to me.

Let's face it, as awesome as Crisis/Infinity Gauntlet/Unity are, you can't do them every week, hell I would argue you can't do them every year either (MARVEL). And Unity is not a crossover like the other 3 are, it's an ongoing series so of course it's going to feel more like Avengers than Infinity Gauntlet. Though, as far as I'm concerned this first arc, which unites many of Valiant's big time players to avoid all out war, seems to be up to that scale.

Also wasn't Secret Weapons only a team book for like the first few issues with Doctor Eclipse? After that I thought it was basically just Stronghold and Livewire's book. Plus don't they own the trademark to Unity (which by the way is a cooler and less generic name than "Secret Weapons")? And I know people here would be complaining if they just named a crossover after their old crossover

I agree, you can't do those every week. So don't call the book Unity. I think its a bait and switch. And don't say its something that's never been done before if it's been done before, even of it was just for a couple of issues. VALIANT fans are smarter than that (or at least I like to think so ) and VEI knows it.

+1

You really are taking the very words I'm thinking straight out of my head. I can't help but +1 it.

Ok this is just getting gross now