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A complete collection is...

Poll ended at Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:31 pm

Every issue published including all variants
15
38%
One copy of each issue/story (not necessarily including variants)
13
33%
All variants and all trading cards
0
No votes
Something else
7
18%
My collection is never complete because
4
10%
 
Total votes: 39

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Daniel Jackson wrote:
Elveen wrote: Now, what I am shooting for is a complete VALIANT comics reading series. I want to be able to read all the books that VALIANT put out.

(of course I want the varitants, bu thtey will have to wait [as of now I have only one, Chaos Gold])

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DJ, I've always been one of "us" ... until this summer I was just in the closet (or somehting like that)

but now I am a proud card carrying member of,...The VALIANT completests!


... and I WILL have ALL of the VALIANT books!!!!!!
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Zero wrote:Don't forget apparel, posters, statues, action figures, key chains, magnets, lithos, print sets, VALIANT beer, video games, etc...
:hm:

I think I will forget them, until I'm done with the rest 8-) It's more inspiring to see the end of the tunnel, even if there will be a new passage to pass afterwards.

To be precise, I agree they are needed for a complete collection, I'll just close my eyes to that fact for a while. :D

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Elveen wrote: until this summer I was just in the closet
:o

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jedimarley wrote:
Elveen wrote: until this summer I was just in the closet
:o
Hehehehe :D

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jedimarley wrote:
Elveen wrote: until this summer I was just in the closet
:o

Hmm... now how did I know you would pick up on that phrase?

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Daniel Jackson wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
Elveen wrote: until this summer I was just in the closet
:o

Hmm... now how did I know you would pick up on that phrase?
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slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything Valiant related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete Valiant collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D



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Post by mavros »

Really up to you to define your own complete collection.

I usually define it as the first printing of a story published. So variants and reprints aren't necessary for completion.

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Second_Death wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D



-slym
Yep :thumb:
Why no card sets?

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Post by X-O HoboJoe »

jedimarley wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
Elveen wrote: until this summer I was just in the closet
:o

Hmm... now how did I know you would pick up on that phrase?
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Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything VALIANT related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete VALIANT collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
:thumb:

by then however it becomes an addiction as you attempt to search for the variants. you know you're descending into the completionist dark side when you pause more and longer at 9.8 sales/auctions. Once committed there is no turning back. If your married you begin to intercept the monthly statements - the cover-up begins. Eventually however she'll find out, slap you silly up-side the head every which way and possibly with the frying pan hopefully not the old cast iron type. Keep it simple because before you know it the light at the end of the completionist tunnel may be an oncoming train!

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jedimarley wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D



-slym
Yep :thumb:
Why no card sets?

It becomes quite a dilema doesn't it? Personally, I'm not a true completist as variants and most cards are absent from my collection. Never really considered the cards as part of the collection.

Trading cards, variants, and on a certain level CGC, have truly created a confusing standard for defining a "complete" collection of anything.

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SnotDrip wrote:
Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything VALIANT related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete VALIANT collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
:thumb:

by then however it becomes an addiction as you attempt to search for the variants. you know you're descending into the completionist dark side when you pause more and longer at 9.8 sales/auctions. Once committed there is no turning back. If your married you begin to intercept the monthly statements - the cover-up begins. Eventually however she'll find out, slap you silly up-side the head every which way and possibly with the frying pan hopefully not the old cast iron type. Keep it simple because before you know it the light at the end of the completionist tunnel may be an oncoming train!

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This sounds like commentary based on experience but I hope not.

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Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.
Hmm, nicely worded, fellas. I'll recategorize my thinking accordingly.

:thumb:

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Second_Death wrote:
SnotDrip wrote:
Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything VALIANT related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete VALIANT collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
:thumb:

by then however it becomes an addiction as you attempt to search for the next hit. you know you're descending into the junkie dark side when you pause more and longer at street corners in bad neighbourhoods. Once committed there is no turning back. If your married you begin to intercept the monthly statements - the cover-up begins. Eventually however she'll find out, slap you silly up-side the head every which way and possibly with the frying pan hopefully not the old cast iron type. Keep it simple because before you know it the light at the end of the junkie tunnel may be an oncoming train!

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This sounds like commentary based on experience but I hope not.
He's hooked on heroin man! just change a few words around and you'll see what snotdrip is really trying to say...

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I won't know what a complete collection is until I get there..

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jedimarley wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D



-slym
Yep :thumb:
Why no card sets?
OK, I have to edit that - a complete set of COMICS. If you want a complete set of EVERYTHING that had a VALIANT logo on it, then cards, posters, TPB "shelves," and pretty much everything is open.

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slym2none wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D



-slym
Yep :thumb:
Why no card sets?
OK, I have to edit that - a complete set of COMICS. If you want a complete set of EVERYTHING that had a VALIANT logo on it, then cards, posters, TPB "shelves," and pretty much everything is open.

:thumb:



-slym
What about the comics that came with cards? Cards that you had to mail away for more cards.

They are part of the comics.

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Any part of the comic that is bound in should be there - coupons, cards, whathaveyou. But, if you have to send away cards for more CARDS, then no, that's not part of a complete comic collection. Also, in those cases where coups/cards have to be clipped, owning both a clipped AND unclipped version is NOT neccessary IMO.

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slym2none wrote:Any part of the comic that is bound in should be there - coupons, cards, whathaveyou. But, if you have to send away cards for more CARDS, then no, that's not part of a complete comic collection. Also, in those cases where coups/cards have to be clipped, owning both a clipped AND unclipped version is NOT neccessary IMO.

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jedimarley wrote:
slym2none wrote:Any part of the comic that is bound in should be there - coupons, cards, whathaveyou. But, if you have to send away cards for more CARDS, then no, that's not part of a complete comic collection. Also, in those cases where coups/cards have to be clipped, owning both a clipped AND unclipped version is NOT neccessary IMO.

:thumb:



-slym
:roll:
Heh... I was heading you off at the pass there, jedi!

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cobra_commander wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
SnotDrip wrote:
Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything VALIANT related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete VALIANT collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
:thumb:

by then however it becomes an addiction as you attempt to search for the next hit. you know you're descending into the junkie dark side when you pause more and longer at street corners in bad neighbourhoods. Once committed there is no turning back. If your married you begin to intercept the monthly statements - the cover-up begins. Eventually however she'll find out, slap you silly up-side the head every which way and possibly with the frying pan hopefully not the old cast iron type. Keep it simple because before you know it the light at the end of the junkie tunnel may be an oncoming train!

my .25 cents worth (CAD - convert to USD = 0.02 $)
This sounds like commentary based on experience but I hope not.
He's hooked on heroin man! just change a few words around and you'll see what snotdrip is really trying to say...
Easy does it now tiger

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SnotDrip wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
SnotDrip wrote:
Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything VALIANT related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete VALIANT collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
:thumb:

by then however it becomes an addiction as you attempt to search for the next hit. you know you're descending into the junkie dark side when you pause more and longer at street corners in bad neighbourhoods. Once committed there is no turning back. If your married you begin to intercept the monthly statements - the cover-up begins. Eventually however she'll find out, slap you silly up-side the head every which way and possibly with the frying pan hopefully not the old cast iron type. Keep it simple because before you know it the light at the end of the junkie tunnel may be an oncoming train!

my .25 cents worth (CAD - convert to USD = 0.02 $)
This sounds like commentary based on experience but I hope not.
He's hooked on heroin man! just change a few words around and you'll see what snotdrip is really trying to say...
Easy does it now tiger
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SnotDrip wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
SnotDrip wrote:
Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:IMO, a complete collection (when using these two words in conjunction, it is imperative that the first word always be emboldened) is everycomic book, variants, ashcans, etc, included... but not card sets.

A complete RUN would one of every regular issue, since most variants are just a reprint of some sort.

:D

-slym
I completely agree with this distinction. A "collection" is different from a "run." Specifying either one as "complete" also has different meanings. The second option in the poll is the definition of a "complete run." It's the complete printing of the whole story beginning to end. A complete collection, on the other hand, does imply inclusion of variants.

But still, the definition of "collection" has different meanings. A "collection" could mean just the comic books (segmented even further to VH1 and VH2 collections or even further to US and foreign editions of each), the cards, or everything VALIANT related ever produced.

But for general purposes and unless otherwise specified, a "complete VALIANT collection" would mean every issue along with every variant of every VH1 comic released in the US. To me, anyway.
:thumb:

by then however it becomes an addiction as you attempt to search for the next hit. you know you're descending into the junkie dark side when you pause more and longer at street corners in bad neighbourhoods. Once committed there is no turning back. If your married you begin to intercept the monthly statements - the cover-up begins. Eventually however she'll find out, slap you silly up-side the head every which way and possibly with the frying pan hopefully not the old cast iron type. Keep it simple because before you know it the light at the end of the junkie tunnel may be an oncoming train!

my .25 cents worth (CAD - convert to USD = 0.02 $)
This sounds like commentary based on experience but I hope not.
He's hooked on heroin man! just change a few words around and you'll see what snotdrip is really trying to say...
Easy does it now tiger
Don't worry man, nobody laughed at the joke.. :D


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