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J-Scott-R wrote:
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mjm00014 wrote:You could always buy one if the price were right :thumb:

I have a 9.6 however I think for personal satisfaction I would need more than $1700 to let it go.
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J-Scott-R wrote:
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mjm00014 wrote:You could always buy one if the price were right :thumb:

I have a 9.6 however I think for personal satisfaction I would need more than $1700 to let it go.
Yeah my 9.8 is staying right where it is!!
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Ok, so the print run of Bloodshot #0 Gold is supposed to be 5,000. I believe some here have bought gold books by the case. To those who have seen them, how many gold books come in a case? Once we have that number, that should tell how many cases there were.

I don't know if this has been talked about before, but if it has, bear with me as I have never seen it discussed. I've been thinking about this, and it's only speculation which could be disproved very quickly by someone who has opened a case. My theory is that there was probably a Platinum variant in every case of Bloodshot Gold. So however many cases there were, that might be how many Platinums are actually out there. If that was true, that would mean that these books really weren't "errors", but more like "super-secret" variants that the folks at Valiant did as a special treat.

Any plausability to this or am I way off? :?

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That's a pretty good theory, but I would think that somebody in the know would have fessed up by now if that were the case.

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Brother J wrote:Ok, so the print run of Bloodshot #0 Gold is supposed to be 5,000. I believe some here have bought gold books by the case. To those who have seen them, how many gold books come in a case? Once we have that number, that should tell how many cases there were.

I don't know if this has been talked about before, but if it has, bear with me as I have never seen it discussed. I've been thinking about this, and it's only speculation which could be disproved very quickly by someone who has opened a case. My theory is that there was probably a Platinum variant in every case of Bloodshot Gold. So however many cases there were, that might be how many Platinums are actually out there. If that was true, that would mean that these books really weren't "errors", but more like "super-secret" variants that the folks at Valiant did as a special treat.

Any plausability to this or am I way off? :?
It's possible, but unlikely. I have been told before that people have opened cases without the book in it. Rhet supposedly had multiple cases of the B/S 0 gold & to my knowledge he only pulled a platinum (& I believe the 0 pink).

Also, it had to be super, super secret if it was intended because none of the creators or editors involved knew anything about it.

Looking at my copy, it really just looks like a gold book printed without the gold ink. It could be an error or a prototype, but it's most likely an error. The pink 0, on the other hand, appears to have been very much intentional. I could not tell you why someone would make that book though... :?

I'm not trying to make anybody mad. I realize people have a lot of money invested in these. I have a 9.8 0 platinum myself. I just don't want to see artificial interest leading to a bubble waiting to burst.

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The pink 0, on the other hand, appears to have been very much intentional. I could not tell you why someone would make that book though...
Why do you think that? Any book with a cover price is likely just a printing defect for a overly large print run using an overly complicated printing process. Is there evidence that suggests otherwise? I agree it's not clear what kind of error produced that book (as opposed to the Plat clearly being an error from the Gold run) but why think it was intentional?

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and they could all be intentional. Maybe someone got bored and wanted to experiment? Think about it, whose going to notice 1 or even 25 in a print run that large?

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The pink 0, on the other hand, appears to have been very much intentional. I could not tell you why someone would make that book though...
Why do you think that? Any book with a cover price is likely just a printing defect for a overly large print run using an overly complicated printing process. Is there evidence that suggests otherwise? I agree it's not clear what kind of error produced that book (as opposed to the Plat clearly being an error from the Gold run) but why think it was intentional?
I have no idea where the pink box itself came from... The main issue for me is that it does have a cover price, but the Bloodshot logo is gold like the variant. It's almost a hybrid of a regular copy & a gold copy, but with a pink box. :? It, to me, seems too odd to have been a simple error. I could be wrong though... :thumb:

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Fanboy375 wrote:and they could all be intentional. Maybe someone got bored and wanted to experiment? Think about it, whose going to notice 1 or even 25 in a print run that large?
That would be the other viable explanation.

I think it's pretty clear that "Valiant" didn't plan for them, but an employee messing around during the printing process may have. :?

So, take your pick, error or prototype. :thumb:

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ckb wrote:
The pink 0, on the other hand, appears to have been very much intentional. I could not tell you why someone would make that book though...
Why do you think that? Any book with a cover price is likely just a printing defect for a overly large print run using an overly complicated printing process. Is there evidence that suggests otherwise? I agree it's not clear what kind of error produced that book (as opposed to the Plat clearly being an error from the Gold run) but why think it was intentional?
I have no idea where the pink box itself came from... The main issue for me is that it does have a cover price, but the Bloodshot logo is gold like the variant. It's almost a hybrid of a regular copy & a gold copy, but with a pink box. :? It, to me, seems too odd to have been a simple error. I could be wrong though... :thumb:
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Zero wrote:
Zero wrote:
ckb wrote:
The pink 0, on the other hand, appears to have been very much intentional. I could not tell you why someone would make that book though...
Why do you think that? Any book with a cover price is likely just a printing defect for a overly large print run using an overly complicated printing process. Is there evidence that suggests otherwise? I agree it's not clear what kind of error produced that book (as opposed to the Plat clearly being an error from the Gold run) but why think it was intentional?
I have no idea where the pink box itself came from... The main issue for me is that it does have a cover price, but the Bloodshot logo is gold like the variant. It's almost a hybrid of a regular copy & a gold copy, but with a pink box. :? It, to me, seems too odd to have been a simple error. I could be wrong though... :thumb:
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Just my :twocents: here..

I think the Pink looks like a prototype becasue the gold was only put n part of the book. In all other cases the gold was either put in or not at all (creating the platinums)

My theory: The PLatinums were books that did not receive the gold print making it a printing error. Also, werent most of these platinum books located in a particular area of the country? If this is correct then this means that they could have been send out from the same box. All of the plats could have been manufadctured and then shipped in the same, pssoibly, first box. Its even possible that the Pink was in there as well.

I guess these could have come at the end of the run, in the last box. Especially if the gold books were manufactured a bit differently from the regular editions. Maybe the manufacturer counted out 5000 books and chose not to apply the gold the the remaining 20 some books, making those into the platinums we so cherish now.


Just some ideas I came up with. Bust my theories at will ;)

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Good thories :thumb:

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IanAlexavier wrote:Just some ideas I came up with. Bust my theories at will ;)
Who is Will and why do you want to bust things on him? What did Will ever do to you? Why can't you just leave Will alone?

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IanAlexavier wrote:Just some ideas I came up with. Bust my theories at will ;)
Who is Will and why do you want to bust things on him? What did Will ever do to you? Why can't you just leave Will alone?
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A couple random things to add:

1) For some reason the pink just doesn't do it for me, as even if it's some prototype or error it doesn't match the rest of the publishing run; whereas there were other "platinum" issues made on purpose which are collected on sold on a routine basis.

2) As to why it's pink its very simple, Quesada cut his finger open and wanted his blood used as part of the ink. Kiss did it back the day, why not him :thumb: The gold ink was just to throw us off.

3) How many people here own a platinum or pink version AND have opened the book up? How funny would it be there's some random alternate story in there. For instance, in the pink version everyone "rolls the other way" if you know what I mean :lol:

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mjm00014 wrote:A couple random things to add:

were other "platinum" issues made on purpose which are collected on sold on a routine basis.
Is it a common belief that the Plats were made on purpose? Or was this communicated from Valiant?

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mjm00014 wrote:
2) As to why it's pink its very simple, Quesada cut his finger open and wanted his blood used as part of the ink. Kiss did it back the day, why not him :thumb: The gold ink was just to throw us off.
So he was trying to imitate that old KISS comic.. ew, gross...
mjm00014 wrote: 3) How many people here own a platinum or pink version AND have opened the book up? How funny would it be there's some random alternate story in there. For instance, in the pink version everyone "rolls the other way" if you know what I mean :lol:
Im sure that someone somewhere read that book without even knowing it was different.. :lol:

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mjm00014 wrote:
3) How many people here own a platinum or pink version AND have opened the book up? How funny would it be there's some random alternate story in there. For instance, in the pink version everyone "rolls the other way" if you know what I mean :lol:
I don't believe the current owner of the "pink" has ever opened it, since it was slabbed by the previous owner. Care to crack it out of the slab and test mjm's theory? :lol:

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IanAlexavier wrote:
mjm00014 wrote:A couple random things to add:

were other "platinum" issues made on purpose which are collected on sold on a routine basis.
Is it a common belief that the Plats were made on purpose? Or was this communicated from Valiant?
I was just referring to the Unity and Predator / Magnus platinum editions :thumb:

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Brother J wrote:
mjm00014 wrote:
3) How many people here own a platinum or pink version AND have opened the book up? How funny would it be there's some random alternate story in there. For instance, in the pink version everyone "rolls the other way" if you know what I mean :lol:
I don't believe the current owner of the "pink" has ever opened it, since it was slabbed by the previous owner. Care to crack it out of the slab and test mjm's theory? :lol:
I'll sell you my coverless Bloodshot pink and you can check it out for yourself ;)

As long as I have that coverless copy, I'm not opening that baby. I want it to remain in fresh NM condition.
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mjm00014 wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:
mjm00014 wrote:A couple random things to add:

were other "platinum" issues made on purpose which are collected on sold on a routine basis.
Is it a common belief that the Plats were made on purpose? Or was this communicated from Valiant?
I was just referring to the Unity and Predator / Magnus platinum editions :thumb:
Ah yes!! Of course... yes, those were on purpose LOL

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Dr. Solar wrote:
Brother J wrote:
mjm00014 wrote:
3) How many people here own a platinum or pink version AND have opened the book up? How funny would it be there's some random alternate story in there. For instance, in the pink version everyone "rolls the other way" if you know what I mean :lol:
I don't believe the current owner of the "pink" has ever opened it, since it was slabbed by the previous owner. Care to crack it out of the slab and test mjm's theory? :lol:
I'll sell you my coverless Bloodshot pink and you can check it out for yourself ;)

As long as I have that coverless copy, I'm not opening that baby. I want it to remain in fresh NM condition.
I'll sell you my Shadowman 0 Platinum for $1500... but it doesnt have a cover... :P :lol:


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