XO 6 Zircher variant

paradise · Post by **paradise** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:46 pm

We got the XO Design covers but only in the quantity that we should have had the 1:50s. The two covers were reversed. Not sure by whom, assuming Diamond.

Mark Fuller · Post by **Mark Fuller** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:47 pm

I've just seen on twitter that the Zircher cover is the walk in Wednesday prize. That suggests it is the rarest afterall. Maybe the store by store allocations got messed up.

tchalla8 · Post by **tchalla8** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:47 pm

It's going to be interesting watching this sort itself out.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:47 pm

Man, the guys at VEI must be wanting to put Diamond in a world of hurt today, assuming this was a Diamond goof. But in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Diamond is the one-eyed man - how mad can you get at him without hurting yourself?

Again, I am going to argue for VEI self-distribution of all limited variants. It's a daunting task but I think it is do-able, especially for 50:1s.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:50 pm

tchalla8 wrote:Probably. I'm just throwing guesses. I have no idea what happened. I just snapped up an X-O Char Design cover off ebay for $3.39 just in case. Not taking any chances.

I think that was a good call as I suspect the printings were switched, I just don't think it was intentional. What I'm really curious about is, if they did switch the print numbers, will they just leave it like it is or will they go ahead and print the correct number of the character design covers? We might see a situation similar to EW#1 Gold with this one where Valiant releases another 1:50 print with something different about them... or they'll hunt down every copy and take them from you!

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:54 pm

My guess is that Diamond made an error.
(It's been known to happen

)
DAN

paradise · Post by **paradise** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:58 pm

But don't you think VEI would supply DIamond with quantities in the right ratios? Which would mean that somewhere in the pull process it would become an issue.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:59 pm

sonicdan wrote:My guess is that Diamond made an error.
(It's been known to happen )
DAN

That's a pretty big boo boo on Diamond's part. Especially if that means some retailers won't get their books because Diamond ran out. I think it's more likely this happened at the printer, but that is entirely based on the fact that I don't know anything about anything.

Has anyone tweeted Valiant about all of this?

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:01 pm

My LCS had both waiting for me ... I told him previously that I would buy any 1:1 or pullbox variants but didn't want the 1:20s or rarer ones.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:03 pm

paradise wrote:But don't you think VEI would supply DIamond with quantities in the right ratios? Which would mean that somewhere in the pull process it would become an issue.

You beat me too it. Either the books were PRINTED in the wrong amounts or Diamond is SHIPPING OUT the wrong variants at those ratios. If it's the former, then it should correct itself eventually, if it's the latter...

tchalla8 · Post by **tchalla8** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:06 pm

Tried another shop and they were selling the CD cover as the 1:50 and had 4 or 5 copies of the Zircher cover on the shelves.

Honestly, the more I think about it the more it has to be a printer level error. Diamond can only distribute according to what they're supplied with by their order to VEI. They couldn't have had enough 1:50 Variants to ship them out at a 1:1 pullbox ratio, so they must have been supplied with more in error.

I would love to see what Ed thinks about this and whether there's any recourse for retailers out there. A lot of people are gonna be unhappy they didn't get their CD cover. I actually like it better than the Zircher.

dbngaa · Post by **dbngaa** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:29 pm

Just got back from my LCS. They have never had a Valiant variant other than the pullbox ones and they had 1 Zircher. Plus one each of the other character design covers on the other titles. Went ahead and picked it up. Since I had already ordered a copy at $34.00, this brings my grand total to $38 for 2 1:1 variants. Yay.

DCBS does show my CD cover as having shipped, so I guess it all evens out.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:30 pm

I saw the same as everyone else - half Reg and half Zircher on the shelves and no character design variants. This is so screwed up it's ridiculous. Can we please stop all the screwy variants now?

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:33 pm

400yrs wrote:I saw the same as everyone else - half Reg and half Zircher on the shelves and no character design variants. This is so screwed up it's ridiculous. Can we please stop all the screwy variants now?

And maybe start using a professional printer?

tchalla8 · Post by **tchalla8** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:36 pm

400yrs wrote:
400yrs wrote:I saw the same as everyone else - half Reg and half Zircher on the shelves and no character design variants. This is so screwed up it's ridiculous. Can we please stop all the screwy variants now?

And maybe start using a professional printer?

Take it easy, my friend. It's not that bad. Let's see how it plays out. Gives us something interesting to talk about

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:47 pm

tchalla8 wrote:
400yrs wrote:
400yrs wrote:I saw the same as everyone else - half Reg and half Zircher on the shelves and no character design variants. This is so screwed up it's ridiculous. Can we please stop all the screwy variants now?
And maybe start using a professional printer?
Take it easy, my friend. It's not that bad. Let's see how it plays out. Gives us something interesting to talk about

Ain't that the truth. I haven't had this much to say in a while.

I just wish Valiant would comment on it. I'm really, really curious how this is going to play out in the end. I foresee another print coming in the near future.

dbngaa · Post by **dbngaa** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:56 pm

Yea, curious to see if additional CD covers get printed, and we end up with essentially two 1:1 variants. Or if they say sorry, if you ordered 1:1's you get Zircher and if you ordered 1:50's you get CD. And what a ness for DCBS and the like since they charged 1:50 prices on these. I'm going to try out the popcorn smiley for the first time.

MarkRoseHFX · Post by **MarkRoseHFX** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:02 pm

my store had a bunch of the Zircher variant also and I got one for cover. it's gotta be a mistake.

tchalla8 · Post by **tchalla8** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:21 pm

etos45 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
400yrs wrote:
400yrs wrote:I saw the same as everyone else - half Reg and half Zircher on the shelves and no character design variants. This is so screwed up it's ridiculous. Can we please stop all the screwy variants now?
And maybe start using a professional printer?
Take it easy, my friend. It's not that bad. Let's see how it plays out. Gives us something interesting to talk about
Ain't that the truth. I haven't had this much to say in a while.

I just wish Valiant would comment on it..

I bet Valiant is still trying to figure out what the heck happened

MarrowMan · Post by **MarrowMan** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:34 pm

I hate to say it, but I'm glad I got this cover, I love it's homage and Zircher is such a great artist and such a nice guy, I'm so happy to have gotten it.

bobby97801 · Post by **bobby97801** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:35 pm

MarrowMan wrote:I hate to say it, but I'm glad I got this cover, I love it's homage and Zircher is such a great artist and such a nice guy, I'm so happy to have gotten it.

Would you say the same if you spent $30-$50 for it?

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:01 pm

bobby97801 wrote:
MarrowMan wrote:I hate to say it, but I'm glad I got this cover, I love it's homage and Zircher is such a great artist and such a nice guy, I'm so happy to have gotten it.
Would you say the same if you spent $30-$50 for it?

Ya, I grabbed a copy for $15+shipping from the UK before seeing these threads (it was advertised as 1:20), I haven't paid yet so I'll contact the seller and see what he says....I then shortly afterward grabbed 5 copies from a different seller at $3 something a piece, but thinking it was the 1:20 because that's what everyone else advertised it as. No matter the outcome this is horrible press for VEI, it makes it seem like the number of variant printed could be really arbitrary, who's to say there's not thousands of copies of some of the other previously released-variants?

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:05 pm

400yrs wrote:I saw the same as everyone else - half Reg and half Zircher on the shelves and no character design variants. This is so screwed up it's ridiculous. Can we please stop all the screwy variants now?

Seriously; if VEI capped it to max 1 variant/issue I doubt something like this would happen...instead it's 1:20, 1:25, 1:50, 1:100 line-wide, 1:1, and specially released items like the black,x-o gold.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:12 pm

GGSAE wrote:Ya, I grabbed a copy for $15+shipping from the UK before seeing these threads (it was advertised as 1:20), I haven't paid yet so I'll contact the seller and see what he says....I then shortly afterward grabbed 5 copies from a different seller at $3 something a piece, but thinking it was the 1:20 because that's what everyone else advertised it as. No matter the outcome this is horrible press for VEI, it makes it seem like the number of variant printed could be really arbitrary, who's to say there's not thousands of copies of some of the other previously released-variants?

Yeah, it definitely sucks for those that paid high dollar for these thinking they were 1:50s and it'll probably leave a bad taste is some collectors' mouths. As for the number of copies of previous variants, that's always been the biggest risk. It's obvious that there isn't just one copy for every 20, 50, whatever printed because of all the variants that were getting handed out at cons and twitter contests. Maybe they did 1,000 copies, maybe 5,000 copies. Nothing says they have to limit the runs, it's just assumed. I'm wondering how much effect this will have on people's views of variants now.

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:23 pm

Sure, but the product is being sold on exclusivity. And the company knows the pricing model retailers use to charge for these issues, and what that cost equals to the buyer. I don't understand how some retailers think it's a 1:50, some a 1:20, while others don't have it identified as anything. Shouldn't it be known to these guys?

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