Bloodshot #11 discussion thread

[ian_house]

Can anyone explain where the child from HW2's monster went...?!

[Savant]

From an editorial perspective, Valiant should have just picked a name for the nanitic persona from the start. We've gone from goldies to The Kid to Goldie Boy. Ug. Goldie Boy? For reals?

Perhaps this was the inspiration for Goldie Boy:

[ian_house]

Can anyone explain where the child from HW2's monster went...?!

I could be wrong but I thought it was just a projection of his thoughts. I think it went away when he calmed down. It's like an expression of his inner rage.

Sorry I should have been more accurate. It's just that the monster wasn't actually in this issue of Bloodshot... but it was in HW#2. Seemed weird as it seemed to be the reason Bloodshot and the kids were able to escape, yet it also didn't happen according to Bloodshot #11.

[BugsySig]

Can anyone explain where the child from HW2's monster went...?!

I could be wrong but I thought it was just a projection of his thoughts. I think it went away when he calmed down. It's like an expression of his inner rage.

Sorry I should have been more accurate. It's just that the monster wasn't actually in this issue of Bloodshot... but it was in HW#2. Seemed weird as it seemed to be the reason Bloodshot and the kids were able to escape, yet it also didn't happen according to Bloodshot #11.

I have to go back and check too, but I think the scene with the monster occurred after the explosives went off. Saturn's powers started whipping up fire and then the kid got scared and his monster showed up. So this issue skipped from the explosives to the kids in the car.

[mp6pack]

I thought it was pretty *SQUEE* how nearly the entire issue was a repeat. I can understand the logic, but I feel like everyone invested in Bloodshot should grab Harbinger Wars anyways. I just hated spending money on reading the same action twice. I love Bloodshot, but this issue was massively disappointing, enough to get me to pull it off my subscriber list. I will continue to grab the issues as I see fit, but I'm not wasting money on the reading the same story twice.

I agree 1000%. The way it's presented, no one needs to even buy Bloodshot. Disclaimer; I want to love this title. I think Bloodshot in the right creative hands would be awesome, but like Shadowman I am so underwhelmed. (Shadowman 0 was a perfect 10). Anyway I digress. Bloodshot needs help. I read Harbinger 12, and it is an issues I can read several times. Bloodshot I don't have to read at all. Now I'm looking forward to "Bloodshot and HARD Corps". A new creative team is needed. 2.75.

[Big Red]

So I differ from everyone's opinion above, in that I really enjoyed this issue. I didn't mind seeing the same story from a different perspective. Hasn't everyone been complaining that there was too much action and not enough character development in Bloodshot? That's all this issue is. The story is an exact repeat, but with a literal internal struggle between Bloodshot and the nanites. I loved it.

I realized something with this issue in particular, and the Harbinger Wars arc in general - Bloodshot is my favorite title character in VEI. He has the most interesting premise (Was he someone before or was he created from scratch? Is he in control or are the nanites?), and he is a complete mystery, both to himself and to the readers. Harbinger is still my favorite book, but no single character in that book (or any of the other books) grabs me and keeps my interested like Bloodshot does.

I just need Telic to join H.A.R.D.Corps and this book will be at the top.

I saw this issue in the same way as you did.

I enjoyed it. There was enough new material and insight into what Bloodshot was going through during the fight that I didn't mind seeing some of the same action from Harbinger Wars 2.

Great character and a great book.

[Dallow Spicer1]

So I differ from everyone's opinion above, in that I really enjoyed this issue. I didn't mind seeing the same story from a different perspective. Hasn't everyone been complaining that there was too much action and not enough character development in Bloodshot? That's all this issue is. The story is an exact repeat, but with a literal internal struggle between Bloodshot and the nanites. I loved it.

I realized something with this issue in particular, and the Harbinger Wars arc in general - Bloodshot is my favorite title character in VEI. He has the most interesting premise (Was he someone before or was he created from scratch? Is he in control or are the nanites?), and he is a complete mystery, both to himself and to the readers. Harbinger is still my favorite book, but no single character in that book (or any of the other books) grabs me and keeps my interested like Bloodshot does.

I just need Telic to join H.A.R.D.Corps and this book will be at the top.

I saw this issue in the same way as you did.

I enjoyed it. There was enough new material and insight into what Bloodshot was going through during the fight that I didn't mind seeing some of the same action from Harbinger Wars 2.

Great character and a great book.

+2

Enjoying Harby Wars and this issue gave more detail and a different perspective! Excellent read! 4/5

[erwinrafael]

I thought it was pretty *SQUEE* how nearly the entire issue was a repeat. I can understand the logic, but I feel like everyone invested in Bloodshot should grab Harbinger Wars anyways. I just hated spending money on reading the same action twice. I love Bloodshot, but this issue was massively disappointing, enough to get me to pull it off my subscriber list. I will continue to grab the issues as I see fit, but I'm not wasting money on the reading the same story twice.

I agree 1000%. The way it's presented, no one needs to even buy Bloodshot. Disclaimer; I want to love this title. I think Bloodshot in the right creative hands would be awesome, but like Shadowman I am so underwhelmed. (Shadowman 0 was a perfect 10). Anyway I digress. Bloodshot needs help. I read Harbinger 12, and it is an issues I can read several times. Bloodshot I don't have to read at all. Now I'm looking forward to "Bloodshot and HARD Corps". A new creative team is needed. 2.75.

Actually, this issue is a very good issue if you did not read Harbinger Wars 2. What I did to enjoy this is I read the Bloodshot series straight from the first issue. Then this issue becomes a good read when viewed from the context of the series.

Also did it with Harbinger. The Harbinger Wars issues read better when read from the context of the series.

[grendeljd]

I enjoyed this issue. While there was definitely more plot overlap here than in any other Harbinger Wars issue to date, it was used to good effect to tell the real story, which was the internal conflict that Bloodshot struggled with. I'll be honest and say I might have liked to see slightly more plot advancement, but I can appreciate what they were trying to do here.

The art was also good, though not quite as great as I was expecting from Kitson... Especially compared with his work on Harbinger #7. I'm thinking its the inking that is making the difference here.

[Knightt]

At least I like Barry Kitson's art over Manuel Garcia & Arturo Lozzi... but not by much.

Pretty good story though (Bloodshot overall). I think the cartoony art from previous issues diminishes the raw violence. Maybe that was in intent ? Having HARD Corps added to the VU is a huge bonus.

I like the military aspect of both BS and HC but prefer 'more serious art styles'; also to have weapons drawn correctly/more realistically.

This could easily be a favorite title for me but is at the bottom of the list above Shadowman. Oddly enough, I rank Archer & Armstrong in the #1 slot.

[BugsySig]

At least I like Barry Kitson's art over Manuel Garcia & Arturo Lozzi... but not by much.

Pretty good story though (Bloodshot overall). I think the cartoony art from previous issues diminishes the raw violence. Maybe that was in intent ? Having HARD Corps added to the VU is a huge bonus.

I like the military aspect of both BS and HC but prefer 'more serious art styles'; also to have weapons drawn correctly/more realistically.

This could easily be a favorite title for me but is at the bottom of the list above Shadowman. Oddly enough, I rank Archer & Armstrong in the #1 slot.

I think after a very strong first arc, Bloodshot seemed to stall out...almost as though it was in a holding pattern until Harbinger Wars. I'm very hopeful and optimistic that the Gage/Dysart team will kick major *SQUEE* with the newly adjusted concept. There is just so much potential with the Bloodshot & HARD Corps concepts...sci-fi, military, espionage, action, psychological thriller...looking forward to that.

[bygranddesign]

I think after a very strong first arc, Bloodshot seemed to stall out...almost as though it was in a holding pattern until Harbinger Wars. I'm very hopeful and optimistic that the Gage/Dysart team will kick major *SQUEE* with the newly adjusted concept. There is just so much potential with the Bloodshot & HARD Corps concepts...sci-fi, military, espionage, action, psychological thriller...looking forward to that.

yep!