Most desired VEI Variant

Beware Cyclops · Post by **Beware Cyclops** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:12 pm

Elveen wrote:
Beware Cyclops wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Mr_Taco wrote:The X-O Manowar #15 (Kotakai 1:50) error is very elusive. Does anyone knows how many of them are out there?
I was told 40ish I believe. But don't quote me.
As far as I know about 5 of those have been found.
I have one. Double first signed edition.

And that's 1 of the 5 I know about.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:26 pm

Beware Cyclops wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Beware Cyclops wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Mr_Taco wrote:The X-O Manowar #15 (Kotakai 1:50) error is very elusive. Does anyone knows how many of them are out there?
I was told 40ish I believe. But don't quote me.
As far as I know about 5 of those have been found.
I have one. Double first signed edition.
And that's 1 of the 5 I know about.

I'm also pretty sure, that a great majority of them were recalled by VEI. So they have most likely been pulped. I am not sure about this, just conjecture .

Beware Cyclops · Post by **Beware Cyclops** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:58 pm

Elveen wrote:
Beware Cyclops wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Beware Cyclops wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Mr_Taco wrote:The X-O Manowar #15 (Kotakai 1:50) error is very elusive. Does anyone knows how many of them are out there?
I was told 40ish I believe. But don't quote me.
As far as I know about 5 of those have been found.
I have one. Double first signed edition.
And that's 1 of the 5 I know about.

I'm also pretty sure, that a great majority of them were recalled by VEI. So they have most likely been pulped. I am not sure about this, just conjecture .

I concur.

jaden_sai · Post by **jaden_sai** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:05 pm

nycjadie wrote:Shadowman Black might be a contender on this list, as might Unity 2 and 5 (whatever the most limited versions are, maybe 1:125).

I was also wondering about Unity #2, #3, & #5 B&Ws 1:100s, they are hard to find and really hard to find in good condition

#2 only 1 CGC 9.8
#3 only 1 CGC 9.4
#5 none

jaden_sai · Post by **jaden_sai** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:17 pm

nycjadie wrote:Unity Gold is harder to find than Shadowman gold. It's always been the toughest, in my experience.

The reverse has been true for me, and now it's Ninjak Gold

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:38 pm

It's trade a Unity gold for either Shadowman or Ninjak.

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:51 pm

Elveen wrote:
Beware Cyclops wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Mr_Taco wrote:The X-O Manowar #15 (Kotakai 1:50) error is very elusive. Does anyone knows how many of them are out there?
I was told 40ish I believe. But don't quote me.
As far as I know about 5 of those have been found.
I have one. Double first signed edition.

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:40 pm

jaden_sai wrote:I was also wondering about Unity #2, #3, & #5 B&Ws 1:100s, they are hard to find and really hard to find in good condition

#2 only 1 CGC 9.8
#3 only 1 CGC 9.4
#5 none

This.

I have both the Unity #2 & #3 (Braithwraite 1:200 Sketch Variants) but have not submitted them yet since I suspect they would grade 9.4 or 9.6.

I sold my Unity #5 (Suayan 1:100 Sketch Variant) which would not have graded 9.8 IMO.

Waiting on a copy of Unity #5 (Suayan 1:100 Sketch Variant) to arrive so that I can inspect for grading potential, and then will (likely) attempt all three books in whatever grades are given. So far (other than nycjadie's 9.8) I have not seen many solid NM+/M candidates.

doodlebird · Post by **doodlebird** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:01 pm

Golden tickets

JCP · Post by **JCP** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:27 pm

DirtbagSailor wrote:
jaden_sai wrote:I was also wondering about Unity #2, #3, & #5 B&Ws 1:100s, they are hard to find and really hard to find in good condition

#2 only 1 CGC 9.8
#3 only 1 CGC 9.4
#5 none
This.

I have both the Unity #2 & #3 (Braithwraite 1:200 Sketch Variants) but have not submitted them yet since I suspect they would grade 9.4 or 9.6.

I sold my Unity #5 (Suayan 1:100 Sketch Variant) which would not have graded 9.8 IMO.

Waiting on a copy of Unity #5 (Suayan 1:100 Sketch Variant) to arrive so that I can inspect for grading potential, and then will (likely) attempt all three books in whatever grades are given. So far (other than nycjadie's 9.8) I have not seen many solid NM+/M candidates.

I think it was me who took that Unity #5 off of your hands. It may not grade 9.8 but it still looked pretty and I was happy to take it off of your hands!

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:27 pm

JCP wrote:I think it was me who took that Unity #5 off of your hands. It may not grade 9.8 but it still looked pretty and I was happy to take it off of your hands!

Oddly, it has not been easy finding any other copies. Lol, it's actually possibly that in the end, your copy will be the cleanest copy!

Dr Noel · Post by **Dr Noel** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:48 pm

jaden_sai wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Shadowman Black might be a contender on this list, as might Unity 2 and 5 (whatever the most limited versions are, maybe 1:125).
I was also wondering about Unity #2, #3, & #5 B&Ws 1:100s, they are hard to find and really hard to find in good condition

#2 only 1 CGC 9.8
#3 only 1 CGC 9.4
#5 none

Who has that #2 9.8? I want it!

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:25 am

Dr Noel wrote:
jaden_sai wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Shadowman Black might be a contender on this list, as might Unity 2 and 5 (whatever the most limited versions are, maybe 1:125).
I was also wondering about Unity #2, #3, & #5 B&Ws 1:100s, they are hard to find and really hard to find in good condition

#2 only 1 CGC 9.8
#3 only 1 CGC 9.4
#5 none
Who has that #2 9.8? I want it!

nycjadie

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewto ... 43#p977167

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:53 am

Guilty! It's one of my great slabs. I got lucky on that one. I've been far less lucky on so many other books.

lorddunlow · Post by **lorddunlow** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:10 am

Elveen wrote:
Mr_Taco wrote:The X-O Manowar #15 (Kotakai 1:50) error is very elusive. Does anyone knows how many of them are out there?
I was told 40ish I believe. But don't quote me.

I quoted you. Whatcha gonna do?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:58 pm

lorddunlow wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Mr_Taco wrote:The X-O Manowar #15 (Kotakai 1:50) error is very elusive. Does anyone knows how many of them are out there?
I was told 40ish I believe. But don't quote me.
I quoted you. Whatcha gonna do?

CongoBill · Post by **CongoBill** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:16 pm

I have managed to track down all of those on the list over the past few months with the exception of Shadowman #1 Gold, so that has been the most elusive for me. I also think the Shadowman black retailer preview (or whatever it's called) should go on the list, although a few of them have been showing up on eBay of late (but all seem to have various flaws that will keep them from being 9.8 if submitted). I think Unity #5 Suayan B&W is also very tough and is very desirable because it's such a great cover. And EW #5 Mack rarely seems to show up anywhere and it's also a wonderful cover. And the Larosa Divinity #1 is key because it's the first appearance of a new character that has generated a lot of buzz, and who could become a big player in the VEI universe going forward.

BloodShot · Post by **BloodShot** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:35 am

nycjadie wrote:Unity Gold is harder to find than Shadowman gold. It's always been the toughest, in my experience.

Unity #1 GOLD is a tough pull, for sure; but trust me when I tell you, the Shadowman #1 GOLD is definitely more scarce. Definitely.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:38 am

BloodShot wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Unity Gold is harder to find than Shadowman gold. It's always been the toughest, in my experience.
Unity #1 GOLD is a tough pull, for sure; but trust me when I tell you, the Shadowman #1 GOLD is definitely more scarce. Definitely.

Are you saying tougher in cgc grade or in general?

BloodShot · Post by **BloodShot** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:46 am

Elveen wrote:
BloodShot wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Unity Gold is harder to find than Shadowman gold. It's always been the toughest, in my experience.
Unity #1 GOLD is a tough pull, for sure; but trust me when I tell you, the Shadowman #1 GOLD is definitely more scarce. Definitely.
Are you saying tougher in cgc grade or in general?

BOTH.

Census shows only four 9.8 copies of Shadowman #1 GOLD, as compared to almost twice that many of Unity #1 GOLD (seven, to be specific).

And I personally garnered three of the Shadowman #1 GOLDs, and four of the Unity #1 GOLDs, so there's that, too.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:24 am

Lol! You are VEI 9.8s!

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:24 pm

BloodShot wrote:
Elveen wrote:
BloodShot wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Unity Gold is harder to find than Shadowman gold. It's always been the toughest, in my experience.
Unity #1 GOLD is a tough pull, for sure; but trust me when I tell you, the Shadowman #1 GOLD is definitely more scarce. Definitely.
Are you saying tougher in cgc grade or in general?
BOTH.

Census shows only four 9.8 copies of Shadowman #1 GOLD, as compared to almost twice that many of Unity #1 GOLD (seven, to be specific).

And I personally garnered three of the Shadowman #1 GOLDs, and four of the Unity #1 GOLDs, so there's that, too.

Thanks. Good info to know.

mkb28 · Post by **mkb28** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:43 pm

BloodShot wrote:
Elveen wrote:
BloodShot wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Unity Gold is harder to find than Shadowman gold. It's always been the toughest, in my experience.
Unity #1 GOLD is a tough pull, for sure; but trust me when I tell you, the Shadowman #1 GOLD is definitely more scarce. Definitely.
Are you saying tougher in cgc grade or in general?
BOTH.

Census shows only four 9.8 copies of Shadowman #1 GOLD, as compared to almost twice that many of Unity #1 GOLD (seven, to be specific).

And I personally garnered three of the Shadowman #1 GOLDs, and four of the Unity #1 GOLDs, so there's that, too.

I am the proud owner of the 4th copy of Shadowman #1 GOLD CGC 9.8.

That was in the group of my first CGC submission.

mkb28

drmirage · Post by **drmirage** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:53 pm

Looking at the list:

The Kotaki error in CGC 9.8 is a tough pull.

Most desired?

In the near future, perhaps the Harbinger Wars #1 (Zircher 1:50) in CGC 9.8 will be the most desired.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:57 pm

I got a gold book for wearing a Valiant shirt down at a con in Miami ... they had several Shadowman golds in the box along with a bunch of other gold books. I went with a Harbinger gold since it's my favorite book. But then I got another book for going to the panel so I went with an X-O 0 gold. Also, my son came along so ...

I wonder what the print run is on all these books. Does it vary from gold to gold?

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