Remember, Remember to watch V this weekend

[Byrneout]

You didn't see the video where he was wearing the VALIANT tee? I'da guess 235 or so looking at that.



-slym

Again, I'm flattered - but I was about 264 at that point.

[Byrneout]

You didn't see the video where he was wearing the VALIANT tee? I'da guess 235 or so looking at that.



-slym

I forgot to watch it. I'll have go and take a look at him in action.

Or.... viewtopic.php?t=9793

[depluto]

Exactly. He had also mentioned that he knew The Matrix was anti-Bush, and that the Brothers W were out to get Bush.

I actually remember a little bit of anti-Bush stuff in one of those movies. I thought the second two were pretty stupid (hey machines are coming to kill us ... let's have a multicultural bongo rave for 20 minutes of this damned movie!) but there was some scene where Keanu was in front of a bunch of TVs and they talked about evil leadership (or something ... help me out if you remember) and right at that point the TVs showed a scowling Dubya. It was blatantly political and served no other purpose in the movie. I remember thinking "I wish those weirdos would leave that crap out of this."

But ... I'm all for pile-driving fat guys.

[Daniel Jackson]

You didn't see the video where he was wearing the VALIANT tee? I'da guess 235 or so looking at that.



-slym

I forgot to watch it. I'll have go and take a look at him in action.

Or.... viewtopic.php?t=9793

OK, just watched the whole thing. It was waaay at the end of the broadcast when I finally seen you talking to the camera. It was very cool to see you in action, especially with the black Valiant shirt on. Can't wait to see more. Is your partner coming out to help you on the next show?

[slym2none]

You didn't see the video where he was wearing the VALIANT tee? I'da guess 235 or so looking at that.



-slym

I forgot to watch it. I'll have go and take a look at him in action.

Or.... viewtopic.php?t=9793

OK, just watched the whole thing. It was waaay at the end of the broadcast when I finally seen you talking to the camera. It was very cool to see you in action, especially with the black Valiant shirt on. Can't wait to see more. Is your partner coming out to help you on the next show?

You'll have to watch the PPV to find out!



-slym

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Seriously though, the producers may be using this story as anti-Bush propoganda, but that doesn't mean it is and it doesn't lessen my anticipation for it. I loved the comic and I have high hopes for the film. (But, I never manage to make it to the theatre, so I'll probably see it a year or two after it is released on DVD. I still haven't seen Sin City, for crying out loud, and only recently saw Hellboy!!)

The theme is universal. "People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Government should be afraid of the people." I read an interview with Natalie Portman and she mentioned Joel Silver talking to a reporter from South Korea who was convinced the movie was about North Korea. Some people - on either end of the political spectrum - will be convinced it's about Bush. Some people are just a little insane too.

Good point, Moore is a damn fine writer and he hit a "universal" point with V for Vendetta. When someone's looking for something to bolster their own viewpoint or agenda, no amount of context will stop them.

Context....? What the hell is context....?

[Todd Luck]

I just got back from seeing it. Good movie. The comics a lot better. It's impossible to capture the amount of depth in the VERY long comic story in a two hour plus movie. Plus there were two major changes that really did alter the story and themes of the comic in ways that detracted from the movie as an adaption. I'll discuss those in the V thread on the movie/TV forum when I get a chance. Still, mainly very faithful, very good stuff.

[xoken]

So I went last night and if you have read the graphic novel recently, you will not be let down. I believe this to be the greatest comic book movie ever done. It was beautiful, compelling and moving. Once it was said and done, the theater of 100 people started clapping and this was the late show.

If you haven't read it, you may love it even more. It might possibly be the best movie I have ever seen.

Do yourself a favor, go see it this weekend. I will be watching it again on sunday. I have never seen a movie in the theater twice, but this one I will be watching a few more times.

-j

A great review from the movie thread that I wanted to post in the general forum.

[steverino]

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all.

this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda

[slym2none]

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda

Steverino, are you calling yourself an idiot?



-slym

[Daniel Jackson]

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda

Steverino, are you calling yourself an idiot?



-slym

I think he wants Ric to put him through a table....

[slym2none]

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda

Steverino, are you calling yourself an idiot?



-slym

I think he wants Ric to put him through a table....

Kinda what I was thinking.



-slym

[Daniel Jackson]

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda

Steverino, are you calling yourself an idiot?



-slym

I think he wants Ric to put him through a table....

Kinda what I was thinking.



-slym

That would make a great PPV!

[The Spider]

Of course he claims to hate DC for "stealing" his book - but yet started ABC with them. How confusing is he?

WHY MOORE WAS WITH DC WHEN HE WAS STILL IRRITATED WITH THEM: America's Best Comics is connected with WILDSTORM, which Jim Lee had as part of Image. Moore made the deal with Lee when Wildstorm was still with Image, and didn't know about Wildstorm being sold to DC until later.

[steverino]

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda

Steverino, are you calling yourself an idiot?



-slym

I think he wants Ric to put him through a table....

Kinda what I was thinking.



-slym

That would make a great PPV!

I"m just trying to have fun. But I'm all for the PPV. LET ME AT HIM.

[Steverino is the only man to take one of Chuck Norris's beard hairs, and live to tell about it. Course, it was a long recovery....]

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Of course he claims to hate DC for "stealing" his book - but yet started ABC with them. How confusing is he?

WHY MOORE WAS WITH DC WHEN HE WAS STILL IRRITATED WITH THEM: America's Best Comics is connected with WILDSTORM, which Jim Lee had as part of Image. Moore made the deal with Lee when Wildstorm was still with Image, and didn't know about Wildstorm being sold to DC until later.

Thanks Spidey...I was about to type all that, and saw your post instead. Thanks!

And you know me...if I can avoid typing anything, I will.....

[Todd Luck]

On why Moore was angry with DC and requested his name be removed from the film...

Moore's vendetta against V For Vendetta
New York Times, Petter Ricci, various AMFS fans
March 13, 2006

The online version of the New York Times contains an article on Alan Moore by Dave Itzkoff. The article covers Moore's career in comics, as well as his involvement and feelings overing film adaptations of his work, in particular, V For Vendetta.

Here are some excerpts:

Moore at DC

"Alan was one of the first writers of our generation, of great courage and great literary skill," said Paul Levitz, the president and publisher of DC Comics. "You could watch him stretching the boundaries of the medium."

But by 1989, Mr. Moore had severed his ties with DC. The publisher says he objected to its decision to label its adult-themed comics (including some of his own) as "Suggested for Mature Readers." Mr. Moore says he was objecting to language in his contracts that would give him back the rights to "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta" when they went out of print — language that he says turned out to be meaningless, because DC never intended to stop reprinting either book. "I said, 'Fair enough,' " he recalls. " 'You have managed to successfully swindle me, and so I will never work for you again.' "

Mr. Levitz said that such so-called reversion clauses routinely appear in comic book contracts, and that DC has honored all of its obligations to Mr. Moore. "I don't think Alan was dissatisfied at the time," Mr. Levitz said. "I think he was dissatisfied several years later."

On consulting for the V For Vendetta film:

"I explained to [Larry Wachowski] that I'd had some bad experiences in Hollywood," Mr. Moore said. "I didn't want any input in it, didn't want to see it and didn't want to meet him to have coffee and talk about ideas for the film."

But at a press conference on March 4, 2005, to announce the start of production on the "V for Vendetta" film, the producer Joel Silver said Mr. Moore was "very excited about what Larry had to say and Larry sent the script, so we hope to see him sometime before we're in the U.K." This, Mr. Moore said, "was a flat lie."

"Given that I'd already published statements saying I wasn't interested in the film, it actually made me look duplicitous," he said.

Through his editors at DC Comics (like Warner Brothers, a subsidiary of Time Warner), Mr. Moore insisted that the studio publicly retract Mr. Silver's remarks. When no retraction was made, Mr. Moore once again quit his association with DC (and Wildstorm along with it), and demanded that his name be removed from the "V for Vendetta" film, as well as from any of his work that DC might reprint in the future.

The producers of "V for Vendetta" reluctantly agreed to strip Mr. Moore's name from the film's credits, a move that saddened Mr. Lloyd, who still endorses the film. "Alan and I were like Laurel and Hardy when we worked on that," Mr. Lloyd said. "We clicked. I felt bad about not seeing a credit for that team preserved, but there you go."

http://www.alanmoorefansite.com/news.html

That's a shame. It could've been an even better film with his input.

Plus the ads wouldn't have had that moronic tagline about the movie being a vision of the future from the Wachowski Brothers

[steverino]

On why Moore was angry with DC and requested his name be removed from the film...

Moore's vendetta against V For Vendetta
New York Times, Petter Ricci, various AMFS fans
March 13, 2006

The online version of the New York Times contains an article on Alan Moore by Dave Itzkoff. The article covers Moore's career in comics, as well as his involvement and feelings overing film adaptations of his work, in particular, V For Vendetta.

Here are some excerpts:

Moore at DC

"Alan was one of the first writers of our generation, of great courage and great literary skill," said Paul Levitz, the president and publisher of DC Comics. "You could watch him stretching the boundaries of the medium."

But by 1989, Mr. Moore had severed his ties with DC. The publisher says he objected to its decision to label its adult-themed comics (including some of his own) as "Suggested for Mature Readers." Mr. Moore says he was objecting to language in his contracts that would give him back the rights to "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta" when they went out of print — language that he says turned out to be meaningless, because DC never intended to stop reprinting either book. "I said, 'Fair enough,' " he recalls. " 'You have managed to successfully swindle me, and so I will never work for you again.' "

Mr. Levitz said that such so-called reversion clauses routinely appear in comic book contracts, and that DC has honored all of its obligations to Mr. Moore. "I don't think Alan was dissatisfied at the time," Mr. Levitz said. "I think he was dissatisfied several years later."

On consulting for the V For Vendetta film:

"I explained to [Larry Wachowski] that I'd had some bad experiences in Hollywood," Mr. Moore said. "I didn't want any input in it, didn't want to see it and didn't want to meet him to have coffee and talk about ideas for the film."

But at a press conference on March 4, 2005, to announce the start of production on the "V for Vendetta" film, the producer Joel Silver said Mr. Moore was "very excited about what Larry had to say and Larry sent the script, so we hope to see him sometime before we're in the U.K." This, Mr. Moore said, "was a flat lie."

"Given that I'd already published statements saying I wasn't interested in the film, it actually made me look duplicitous," he said.

Through his editors at DC Comics (like Warner Brothers, a subsidiary of Time Warner), Mr. Moore insisted that the studio publicly retract Mr. Silver's remarks. When no retraction was made, Mr. Moore once again quit his association with DC (and Wildstorm along with it), and demanded that his name be removed from the "V for Vendetta" film, as well as from any of his work that DC might reprint in the future.

The producers of "V for Vendetta" reluctantly agreed to strip Mr. Moore's name from the film's credits, a move that saddened Mr. Lloyd, who still endorses the film. "Alan and I were like Laurel and Hardy when we worked on that," Mr. Lloyd said. "We clicked. I felt bad about not seeing a credit for that team preserved, but there you go."

http://www.alanmoorefansite.com/news.html

That's a shame. It could've been an even better film with his input.

Plus the ads wouldn't have had that moronic tagline about the movie being a vision of the future from the Wachowski Brothers

Jeez.

Sounds like Moore's ego could raise the Titanic.

Maybe we should should throw him in the sea and see if his head would double for a floatation device....with lot's of hair on it! Just hope those poor squirrels living in his beard know how to swim.

I am not a Moore fan.

[X-O HoboJoe]

On why Moore was angry with DC and requested his name be removed from the film...

Moore's vendetta against V For Vendetta
New York Times, Petter Ricci, various AMFS fans
March 13, 2006

The online version of the New York Times contains an article on Alan Moore by Dave Itzkoff. The article covers Moore's career in comics, as well as his involvement and feelings overing film adaptations of his work, in particular, V For Vendetta.

Here are some excerpts:

Moore at DC

"Alan was one of the first writers of our generation, of great courage and great literary skill," said Paul Levitz, the president and publisher of DC Comics. "You could watch him stretching the boundaries of the medium."

But by 1989, Mr. Moore had severed his ties with DC. The publisher says he objected to its decision to label its adult-themed comics (including some of his own) as "Suggested for Mature Readers." Mr. Moore says he was objecting to language in his contracts that would give him back the rights to "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta" when they went out of print — language that he says turned out to be meaningless, because DC never intended to stop reprinting either book. "I said, 'Fair enough,' " he recalls. " 'You have managed to successfully swindle me, and so I will never work for you again.' "

Mr. Levitz said that such so-called reversion clauses routinely appear in comic book contracts, and that DC has honored all of its obligations to Mr. Moore. "I don't think Alan was dissatisfied at the time," Mr. Levitz said. "I think he was dissatisfied several years later."

On consulting for the V For Vendetta film:

"I explained to [Larry Wachowski] that I'd had some bad experiences in Hollywood," Mr. Moore said. "I didn't want any input in it, didn't want to see it and didn't want to meet him to have coffee and talk about ideas for the film."

But at a press conference on March 4, 2005, to announce the start of production on the "V for Vendetta" film, the producer Joel Silver said Mr. Moore was "very excited about what Larry had to say and Larry sent the script, so we hope to see him sometime before we're in the U.K." This, Mr. Moore said, "was a flat lie."

"Given that I'd already published statements saying I wasn't interested in the film, it actually made me look duplicitous," he said.

Through his editors at DC Comics (like Warner Brothers, a subsidiary of Time Warner), Mr. Moore insisted that the studio publicly retract Mr. Silver's remarks. When no retraction was made, Mr. Moore once again quit his association with DC (and Wildstorm along with it), and demanded that his name be removed from the "V for Vendetta" film, as well as from any of his work that DC might reprint in the future.

The producers of "V for Vendetta" reluctantly agreed to strip Mr. Moore's name from the film's credits, a move that saddened Mr. Lloyd, who still endorses the film. "Alan and I were like Laurel and Hardy when we worked on that," Mr. Lloyd said. "We clicked. I felt bad about not seeing a credit for that team preserved, but there you go."

http://www.alanmoorefansite.com/news.html

That's a shame. It could've been an even better film with his input.

Plus the ads wouldn't have had that moronic tagline about the movie being a vision of the future from the Wachowski Brothers

Jeez.

Sounds like Moore's ego could raise the Titanic.

Maybe we should should throw him in the sea and see if his head would double for a floatation device....with lot's of hair on it! Just hope those poor squirrels living in his beard know how to swim.

I am not a Moore fan.

'Rino! Go easy on the squirrels, dude. They can't help where they live.
Alan is one intense guy, and reputed to be a decendant of Rasputin.

[myron]

On why Moore was angry with DC and requested his name be removed from the film...

Moore's vendetta against V For Vendetta
New York Times, Petter Ricci, various AMFS fans
March 13, 2006

The online version of the New York Times contains an article on Alan Moore by Dave Itzkoff. The article covers Moore's career in comics, as well as his involvement and feelings overing film adaptations of his work, in particular, V For Vendetta.

Here are some excerpts:

Moore at DC

"Alan was one of the first writers of our generation, of great courage and great literary skill," said Paul Levitz, the president and publisher of DC Comics. "You could watch him stretching the boundaries of the medium."

But by 1989, Mr. Moore had severed his ties with DC. The publisher says he objected to its decision to label its adult-themed comics (including some of his own) as "Suggested for Mature Readers." Mr. Moore says he was objecting to language in his contracts that would give him back the rights to "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta" when they went out of print — language that he says turned out to be meaningless, because DC never intended to stop reprinting either book. "I said, 'Fair enough,' " he recalls. " 'You have managed to successfully swindle me, and so I will never work for you again.' "

Mr. Levitz said that such so-called reversion clauses routinely appear in comic book contracts, and that DC has honored all of its obligations to Mr. Moore. "I don't think Alan was dissatisfied at the time," Mr. Levitz said. "I think he was dissatisfied several years later."

On consulting for the V For Vendetta film:

"I explained to [Larry Wachowski] that I'd had some bad experiences in Hollywood," Mr. Moore said. "I didn't want any input in it, didn't want to see it and didn't want to meet him to have coffee and talk about ideas for the film."

But at a press conference on March 4, 2005, to announce the start of production on the "V for Vendetta" film, the producer Joel Silver said Mr. Moore was "very excited about what Larry had to say and Larry sent the script, so we hope to see him sometime before we're in the U.K." This, Mr. Moore said, "was a flat lie."

"Given that I'd already published statements saying I wasn't interested in the film, it actually made me look duplicitous," he said.

Through his editors at DC Comics (like Warner Brothers, a subsidiary of Time Warner), Mr. Moore insisted that the studio publicly retract Mr. Silver's remarks. When no retraction was made, Mr. Moore once again quit his association with DC (and Wildstorm along with it), and demanded that his name be removed from the "V for Vendetta" film, as well as from any of his work that DC might reprint in the future.

The producers of "V for Vendetta" reluctantly agreed to strip Mr. Moore's name from the film's credits, a move that saddened Mr. Lloyd, who still endorses the film. "Alan and I were like Laurel and Hardy when we worked on that," Mr. Lloyd said. "We clicked. I felt bad about not seeing a credit for that team preserved, but there you go."

http://www.alanmoorefansite.com/news.html

That's a shame. It could've been an even better film with his input.

Plus the ads wouldn't have had that moronic tagline about the movie being a vision of the future from the Wachowski Brothers

Jeez.

Sounds like Moore's ego could raise the Titanic.

Maybe we should should throw him in the sea and see if his head would double for a floatation device....with lot's of hair on it! Just hope those poor squirrels living in his beard know how to swim.

I am not a Moore fan.

'Rino! Go easy on the squirrels, dude. They can't help where they live.
Alan is one intense guy, and reputed to be a decendant of Rasputin.

since the only picture of him that we every is that charlie manson one, the rasputin thing might be true

[steverino]

Jeez.

Sounds like Moore's ego could raise the Titanic.

Maybe we should should throw him in the sea and see if his head would double for a floatation device....with lot's of hair on it! Just hope those poor squirrels living in his beard know how to swim.

I am not a Moore fan.

'Rino! Go easy on the squirrels, dude. They can't help where they live.
Alan is one intense guy, and reputed to be a decendant of Rasputin.

Found a picture of one of the squirrels currently residing within Moore's beard:

[X-O HoboJoe]

Jeez.

Sounds like Moore's ego could raise the Titanic.

Maybe we should should throw him in the sea and see if his head would double for a floatation device....with lot's of hair on it! Just hope those poor squirrels living in his beard know how to swim.

I am not a Moore fan.

'Rino! Go easy on the squirrels, dude. They can't help where they live.
Alan is one intense guy, and reputed to be a decendant of Rasputin.

Found a picture of one of the squirrels currently residing within Moore's beard:

That one's gonna be in the sequel: V for Vagina

[Daniel Jackson]

Man, I'll bet that squirrel is a big hit with the lady squirrels.

[Technique]

Man, I'll bet that squirrel is a big hit with the lady squirrels.

Slym is going to be SOOOO jealous...

[Daniel Jackson]

Man, I'll bet that squirrel is a big hit with the lady squirrels.

Slym is going to be SOOOO jealous...

Hahaha... ya think?