Will we ever get the official scoop on who VIP was/were?

myron · Post by **myron** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:50:35 pm

jedimarley wrote:
x-omatic wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
myron wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Well said, cin.
yup...cin's the man.
I don't know about that.
Are you saying cin's not a man?
He likes cats.

...aren't you a "lion"(big cat) fan as well???...

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:59:25 pm

myron wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
x-omatic wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
myron wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Well said, cin.
yup...cin's the man.
I don't know about that.
Are you saying cin's not a man?
He likes cats.
...aren't you a "lion"(big cat) fan as well???...

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:04:03 pm

siren3-4 wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote: (I don't think anyone on the se boards are deserving of fear or worship),

um . . . excuse me . . . how dare you . . .

Come, son of Jor-El . . . kneel before . . . me, I guess . . .

Dude--you're a penguin a skirt. C'mon!

A very macho and rugged penguin in a skirt, I mean.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:54:54 pm

Who the hell puts mustard on the shelf, it always goes in the door.

Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:32:11 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote: (I don't think anyone on the se boards are deserving of fear or worship),

um . . . excuse me . . . how dare you . . .

Come, son of Jor-El . . . kneel before . . . me, I guess . . .
Dude--you're a penguin a skirt. C'mon!

A very macho and rugged penguin in a skirt, I mean.

It's a battle tunic!

At least, that's what they keep teling me...

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:54:01 pm

TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

imagesowner2 · Post by **imagesowner2** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:32:24 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:33:26 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
Geomancer wrote:The thread had moved back to the main subject so I gave it a rest
No you didn't. You replied to every one of my responses directed at you. That's not "giving it a rest."
<And then a whole lot more>

DANG, son. That one's worth more than a Ninjak Gold.

My favorite line?

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:If you're going to cut, cut the middle of sentences.

Geomancer--I tend to love ZWH's posts because he posits solid, logical positions, clearly differentiates between facts and his opinions and, as he's said, admits when he's "wrong." I keep reading that people are afraid of him or that people worship him or whatever. I don't know about that (I don't think anyone on the se boards are deserving of fear or worship), but I do know that if you want to either 1) tangle on the WWW "just because" or 2) engage in true debate you need to either a) choose a different sparring partner or b) follow the rules of debate and rhetoric and actually, well, debate.

"Official" would be someone from either VEI or VIP essentially giving a statement to the press saying, "I'm <insert name here> and I approved this message." Anything else is innuendo, second-hand, tales told out of school and, while it could be used to support an argument, would never be official. Period.

If what anyone else wants is "strong circumstantial evidence," then start a different thread.

ZWH--I'm gonna PM a link to you about an article I think you'll find interesting. Do with it what you will.

BoH

11 frickin' pages for a "no" answer.

You had me at "I tend to love ZWH's posts".....I think I just shed a tear or two....where's the "weeping for gladness" smiley...?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:34:02 pm

Byrneout wrote: It's a battle tunic!

At least, that's what they keep teling me...

Kneel before a skirt, kneel before a battle tunic. Either way, it's not the view for me...

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:35:41 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote: ZWH--I'm gonna PM a link to you about an article I think you'll find interesting. Do with it what you will.

I didn't get that link....

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:42:49 pm

greg wrote:
Geomancer wrote:
Brian Cronin wrote:I asked him, and Priest says he does not know who VIP was (and even if you chose to disbelieve him, you'd take that at as a "no comment" at the worst, no?).

So with that said, is there really anything for me to do a piece on? I'd basically just be regurgitating Matt Brady's piece (which I thought was quite good, myself - he did a lot of the same stuff I'd have tried to do - he can't help it if the guy gives him what might not be a true reply).

If anyone comes up with anything else in the future, let me know, but for now, I don't think there's anything for me to write about here.
I also wanted to thank you for the effort Brian.

I do not recall if Matt Brady's piece included any of greg's material. If it did not, then that would be a significant difference.

I may try and ask Christopher Priest directly if he was misquoted earlier about the potential Quantum and Woody prject.
Matt Brady's articles about VIP would be written, edited, approved, and/or manipulated by Michael Lovitz.

Count on it.

In other words, Newsarama is a source about VIP information
equivalent to a 4-year-old as a source of information about Santa Claus.
Sincere? Yes. Correct?

http://www.valiantfans.com/VVVanalysis.pdf

Where's the chart....?

YAY! I LOVE that gif!

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:44:48 pm

cinlach@aol.com wrote:
TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:03:38 pm

TKWill wrote:Who the hell puts mustard on the shelf, it always goes in the door.

Cin does. You should see where he puts the mayo.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:04:04 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:
TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

That's not right.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:15:59 pm

jedimarley wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:
TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

That's not right.

It's not left, either....

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:18:03 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:
TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

That's not right.
It's not left, either....

Ya know..He's really a good guy.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:20:10 pm

IT took awhile but finally we have a proper derailment.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:20:58 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:25:24 pm

jedimarley wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:
TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

That's not right.
It's not left, either....
Ya know..He's really a good guy.

I'm sure some people think that about me, too....

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:25:56 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
Geomancer wrote:The thread had moved back to the main subject so I gave it a rest
No you didn't. You replied to every one of my responses directed at you. That's not "giving it a rest."
<And then a whole lot more>

DANG, son. That one's worth more than a Ninjak Gold.

My favorite line?

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:If you're going to cut, cut the middle of sentences.

Geomancer--I tend to love ZWH's posts because he posits solid, logical positions, clearly differentiates between facts and his opinions and, as he's said, admits when he's "wrong." I keep reading that people are afraid of him or that people worship him or whatever. I don't know about that (I don't think anyone on the se boards are deserving of fear or worship), but I do know that if you want to either 1) tangle on the WWW "just because" or 2) engage in true debate you need to either a) choose a different sparring partner or b) follow the rules of debate and rhetoric and actually, well, debate.

"Official" would be someone from either VEI or VIP essentially giving a statement to the press saying, "I'm <insert name here> and I approved this message." Anything else is innuendo, second-hand, tales told out of school and, while it could be used to support an argument, would never be official. Period.

If what anyone else wants is "strong circumstantial evidence," then start a different thread.

ZWH--I'm gonna PM a link to you about an article I think you'll find interesting. Do with it what you will.

BoH

11 frickin' pages for a "no" answer.
You had me at "I tend to love ZWH's posts".....I think I just shed a tear or two....where's the "weeping for gladness" smiley...?

You KNOW this is gonna go right to my head, right....?

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:06:10 pm

cinlach@aol.com wrote:
TKWill wrote:Anyways Cin is right, you must be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
welcome to the hive mind!

(that was for you deficient1, wherever you are...we miss you buddy, but hopefully with practice our aim will improve.)

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:01:00 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:You KNOW this is gonna go right to my head, right....?

Crikey, we can't have that. I'm selling my soul for a shot at a free Ninjak gold!

The Harbinger · Post by **The Harbinger** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:22:05 pm

Brian Cronin wrote:I asked him, and Priest says he does not know who VIP was (and even if you chose to disbelieve him, you'd take that at as a "no comment" at the worst, no?).

So with that said, is there really anything for me to do a piece on? I'd basically just be regurgitating Matt Brady's piece (which I thought was quite good, myself - he did a lot of the same stuff I'd have tried to do - he can't help it if the guy gives him what might not be a true reply).

If anyone comes up with anything else in the future, let me know, but for now, I don't think there's anything for me to write about here.

Thank you for researching. It is greatly appreciated

The Harbinger · Post by **The Harbinger** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:42:48 pm

TKWill wrote:Words, words, words......

This thread needs some pictures or illustrations to describe what is being said. If I keep clicking on this thread I am going to have to check into a rehab clinic to get my scroll finger fixed. Anyone have the Cliff's Notes on this one yet?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Cliff notes version IMO, but I haven't really read all of it

Oh, and Priest is an unofficial source

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:58:32 pm

The Harbinger wrote:Oh, and Priest is an unofficial source

Wouldn't make him any less credible if he decided to identify the people who approached him.