Who is The Most Powerful Valiant villain?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:29 pm

slym2none wrote:
superman-prime wrote:and shes HOOOT
I especially liked that bit of whispy gauze she wore all through Unity!

-slym

I think it was more of a gossamer type of material.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:07 pm

Elveen wrote:
slym2none wrote:
superman-prime wrote:and shes HOOOT
I especially liked that bit of whispy gauze she wore all through Unity!

-slym

I think it was more of a gossamer type of material.

Chiclo? Chiclo? Chiclo, have you taken over Elveen's account?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:28 pm

leonmallett wrote:
Elveen wrote:
slym2none wrote:
superman-prime wrote:and shes HOOOT
I especially liked that bit of whispy gauze she wore all through Unity!

-slym

I think it was more of a gossamer type of material.
Chiclo? Chiclo? Chiclo, have you taken over Elveen's account?

Sounds like he used to work in the fashion industry....

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:51 pm

The Goat is the most powerful villain in either the Valiant Universe or the Acclaim Universe.

OK in all seriousness in terms of sheer power Erica Piece it took the WHOLE Valiant Universe to stop her in the Unity War and they just barely stopped her.

Harada would be a close second with Darque being a distant third.

myron wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...
IMO, he ruined everything good about Magnus and the characters surrounding him. It was almost as if he truly hated the book and wanted to see it die a slow and miserable death.
to loosely quote the Billy Madison movie---
Giffen's magnus was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in his rambling, incoherent work was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who read it is now dumber for having done so. It should forever be wiped from your memory, and may God have mercy on Giffen's soul for having written it.

One can say the same thing about 98% of Grant Morrison's work.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:03 pm

Cyberstrike wrote:The Goat is the most powerful villain in either the Valiant Universe or the Acclaim Universe.

OK in all seriousness in terms of sheer power Erica Piece it took the WHOLE Valiant Universe to stop her in the Unity War and they just barely stopped her.

Harada would be a close second with Darque being a distant third.

myron wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:What about the Malevs? They almost took over the world.
In Giffen's abomination, they did.....
Was Giffen's run really that bad? I've heard dissatisfaction with his contribution to the Magnus mythos before. Bummer, cuz I LOVED Giffen's short-lived "Trencher" series...
IMO, he ruined everything good about Magnus and the characters surrounding him. It was almost as if he truly hated the book and wanted to see it die a slow and miserable death.
to loosely quote the Billy Madison movie---
Giffen's magnus was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in his rambling, incoherent work was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who read it is now dumber for having done so. It should forever be wiped from your memory, and may God have mercy on Giffen's soul for having written it.
One can say the same thing about 98% of Grant Morrison's work.

I always interpreted it as Solar tricked Erika into beating herself, actually.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:05 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:
tmcneil82 wrote:Acclaim
HAHAHAHAHAHA...NICE!

In my young Valiant-reading experience, i'd probably have to go with Erica Pierce, based on what we've actually SEEN...however...

...my personal opinion is Dr. Eclipse! I feel like in the appearances i've read so far, he has been under-used, but just seems like he could be one destructive bad-@$$!!! Plus, i've always been a sucker for evil versions of heroes (Venom, Bizarro, Man-Bat, to a degree, etc.).

Oh, and if you want to see TRUE evil, check out this pic that I just found that I drew a couple years ago.

May I present...Rob Liefeld's rendition of Optimus Prime:

late to the game but not NEARLY enough pouches.

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:37 pm

Zaphod wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:
tmcneil82 wrote:Acclaim
HAHAHAHAHAHA...NICE!

In my young Valiant-reading experience, i'd probably have to go with Erica Pierce, based on what we've actually SEEN...however...

...my personal opinion is Dr. Eclipse! I feel like in the appearances i've read so far, he has been under-used, but just seems like he could be one destructive bad-@$$!!! Plus, i've always been a sucker for evil versions of heroes (Venom, Bizarro, Man-Bat, to a degree, etc.).

Oh, and if you want to see TRUE evil, check out this pic that I just found that I drew a couple years ago.

May I present...Rob Liefeld's rendition of Optimus Prime:

late to the game but not NEARLY enough pouches.

Hahahahaha, true, true!!!

Well see...when I drew this here rendition of "What-If Rob Liefeld Drew Optimus Prime?", I wanted it to look close to the subject matter, but I made sure to at least put a few guns and swords on Prime's back, purposely leave out the left arm, put a ninja sword in O.P.'s hand (since he is a ninja, after all...lol), and some "Cable-esque" metallic features. Oh, and you can't forget the glowing eye next to a dark eye when the light source makes it impossible for that one area to be dark...lol.

I don't know if y'all would be interested in this, but YEARS ago I wrote and drew a comic called "Dungblood" for my friends and I to laugh over. A true Liefeld rip-fest, the team Dungblood consisted of "original" characters such as:

Shafted: Team leader who shoots arrows

Bad-_ _ _ _ (enter word of choice): A Boy Hulking Thing of Stone

Die-Cast: Robotic American Super-Human with his own "Captain America Club" shield.

Rope: Nathan Night-Lake, a soldier from the future who has come back in time to defeat his evil twin, Struff (umlout over the u).

Prophecy: A mysterious super-soldier found encased in a block of ice.

The list goes on...lol. Anyways, the reason I had it out for Liefeld is because I honestly got into comics FIRST with X-Force and later Youngblood. I was a naive young-un who fell into the Image universe first...not realizing until discovering Marvel and DC later just how HORRID Image really was. AND...due to Liefeld's horrendous release schedule, and books being cancelled after only one issue, and me growing up and realizing just how much he has stolen ideas from existing characters, yet still getting work...it made me feel like a buffoon, so I let it out with this comic...hahaha.

My random "rant" of sorts for the month, I guess...hahahaha.

Phoenix8008 · Post by **Phoenix8008** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:59 pm

I'd have to say the worst villain in the Valiant Universe was the X-O bicycle!

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:13 am

Or was it Massarsky?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:39 am

dave wrote:Or was it Massarsky?

That could work. But, maybe it was his bim-er, his new wife?

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:24 pm

I thought the worst Bad guy in the valiant universe was acclaim

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:25 am

Zaphod wrote:I always interpreted it as Solar tricked Erika into beating herself, actually.

They should have made a video.

I'd watch it...

-slym (

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