How Many and Which Titles Should the New Valiant Lead With?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:14 pm

MoonChild wrote:I think 4 to start is perfect unless they do 1 book that intro's the entire universe first.

Yeah, I would like to see a mini series introducing the new VU.

OmenSpirits.com · Post by **OmenSpirits.com** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:17 pm

you all are forgetting something.

What if Christopher Priest doesn't write Q&W?

and MD Bright doesn't do the art?

TWO very important factors I'd say.

OmenSpirits.com · Post by **OmenSpirits.com** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:20 pm

you all are forgetting something.

What if Christopher Priest doesn't write Q&Q?

and MD Bright doesn't do the art?

TWO very important factors I'd say.

MannyManuel · Post by **MannyManuel** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:32 am

we can all live without the Spider Aliens and please please no more HARD Corps, Timewalker, or Secret Weapons books …

rjrjr wrote:I would like to see 4 titles at first:

X-O Manowar
Shadowman
Bloodshot
Harbinger

I believe the above 4 titles are the strongest titles in the line.

The next 4 titles would be:

Armorines
Ninjak
Rai
Eternal Warrior

The final 4 titles would include:

Timewalker
Archer & Armstrong
PSILords
HARD Corps

I'd like to see the line work up to 12 titles over the course of 2 years.

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:19 am

Really? No Spider Aliens?

And I actually liked Timewalker

....lots of potential in that character

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:21 am

Lots of potential.

cplsimon · Post by **cplsimon** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:26 am

Time walker has the potential to tie the universe together. I don't think he should have his own title till the company is doing very well, but he should play a pretty significant roll. He could be the thread that weaves the universe together.

Spider-aliens I could take them or leave them. But they were pretty important to the original universe. Unless you want a total reboot you have to have them. X-O fans will not go for it I think.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:32 am

cplsimon wrote:Time walker has the potential to tie the universe together. I don't think he should have his own title till the company is doing very well, but he should play a pretty significant roll. He could be the thread that weaves the universe together .

Agreed. I don't think he should ever get his own title, but he would be a good character to start things offf with.

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:40 am

400yrs wrote:
cplsimon wrote:Time walker has the potential to tie the universe together. I don't think he should have his own title till the company is doing very well, but he should play a pretty significant roll. He could be the thread that weaves the universe together .
Agreed. I don't think he should ever get his own title, but he would be a good character to start things offf with.

No title but constantly crossing over....maybe popping in at important times or events.

Watcherish....

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:20 am

Ivar and Colin King are two characters I don't think are strong enough to support their own title. I feel the same way about the Psi-Lords and the Armorines.

Sven · Post by **Sven** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:25 am

MannyManuel wrote:we can all live without the Spider Aliens...

You are now first on my list.

cplsimon wrote:Spider-aliens I could take them or leave them.

You are second. .

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:30 am

cplsimon wrote:Spider-aliens I could take them or leave them. But they were pretty important to the original universe. Unless you want a total reboot you have to have them. X-O fans will not go for it I think.

We will be getting a total reboot.

It will be a reboot in the sense that Ultimate Marvel was a reboot of the Marvel Universe.

At least, that's my understanding.

Maybe the Spider Aliens don't have to be completely spider-ish, but aliens that are slowly infiltrating Earth using corporate maneuvering as their main tool is a nice counterpoint to a barbarian with the most powerful weapon on earth, especially when he is the only one that knows about the invasion.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:44 am

What the *SQUEE* is Sven doing here? I thought Della and Hobo killed his *SQUEE*...

Sven · Post by **Sven** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:08 pm

Sven is legion.

Way to put yourself on the list!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:22 pm

xodacia81 wrote:Ivar and Colin King are two characters I don't think are strong enough to support their own title. I feel the same way about the Psi-Lords and the Armorines.

Ditto.

Burrito Boy · Post by **Burrito Boy** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:56 pm

You guys know what happens when you talk *SQUEE* about the Armorines, right?

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:07 pm

xodacia81 wrote:Ivar and Colin King are two characters I don't think are strong enough to support their own title. I feel the same way about the Psi-Lords and the Armorines.

My feeling about this is really they shouldn't have been titles on there own to begin with. Honestly I think since it's been 15 years since most of these titles have gone and left us they weren't good ideas.

But that was comics then, Valiant expanded to meet not only the demand of the comic buyer but to show retailers you still a viable company by releasing new titles and demanding more shelf space regardless if the title deserved a spot or not.

Lets not forget they were the number #3 company at one point.

-Brian

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:43 pm

xodacia81 wrote:What the *SQUEE* is Sven doing here? I thought Della and Hobo killed his *SQUEE*...

The Sven abides.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:27 am

Jay Tomio wrote:I think a retooled Ninjak is actually potentially one of the strongest single concepts, along with Bloodshot.

If only we could get rid of the damn name, or make it the name of something. instead of the character.

The Ninhak concept is ok. But when you make it what it should be, how do you not end up with Bloodshot? There has to be something better than that.

rjrjr · Post by **rjrjr** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:47 am

MannyManuel wrote:we can all live without the Spider Aliens and please please no more HARD Corps, Timewalker, or Secret Weapons books …

I think Timewalker was one of Valiant's best titles and was the title I was most disappointed in losing back in the Valiant era. Put Timewalker into an anthology as a fixed ongoing serial with other characters being featured in the other serials related to the main Timewalker serial. The potential is huge. HARD Corps was a decent book as well and could have benefited from one of the big guns, Bloodshot or X-O Manowar, being on the team. I agree with you about Secret Weapons; I did not think it was a good book.

I like some of the suggestions I'm reading. I still believe Quantum and Woody would do better if it was not attached to the Valiant Universe.

rjrjr · Post by **rjrjr** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:52 am

Dr. Solar wrote:
cplsimon wrote:Spider-aliens I could take them or leave them. But they were pretty important to the original universe. Unless you want a total reboot you have to have them. X-O fans will not go for it I think.
We will be getting a total reboot.

It will be a reboot in the sense that Ultimate Marvel was a reboot of the Marvel Universe.

At least, that's my understanding.

Maybe the Spider Aliens don't have to be completely spider-ish, but aliens that are slowly infiltrating Earth using corporate maneuvering as their main tool is a nice counterpoint to a barbarian with the most powerful weapon on earth, especially when he is the only one that knows about the invasion.

I love the Spider Aliens. I'm so sick of every alien looking like humans in every sci-fi show (V, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, War of the Worlds Second Coming, etc.) The Spider Alien's original look is appealing and creepy. I'd like to see them keep the look.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:16 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Ivar and Colin King are two characters I don't think are strong enough to support their own title. I feel the same way about the Psi-Lords and the Armorines.
Ditto.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:17 pm

Spider Aliens!!

(looking at Sven out of the corner of my eye?)

Is he smiling? I cant tell....

Burrito Boy · Post by **Burrito Boy** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:48 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Ivar and Colin King are two characters I don't think are strong enough to support their own title. I feel the same way about the Psi-Lords and the Armorines.
Ditto.

It's *SQUEE* like you guys that cost Gunny Lewis his job.

That being said, I suppose I could deal with the Armorines being supporting characters instead of having their own book. Whatever it takes to keep them in the Valiant universe.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:38 pm

Burrito Boy wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Ivar and Colin King are two characters I don't think are strong enough to support their own title. I feel the same way about the Psi-Lords and the Armorines.
Ditto.

It's *SQUEE* like you guys that cost Gunny Lewis his job.

That being said, I suppose I could deal with the Armorines being supporting characters instead of having their own book. Whatever it takes to keep them in the Valiant universe.

Oh, they deserve a presence. I just don't think they are strong enough to carry a series that spotlights them.

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