DC Comics Relaunching Everything In June

[dornwolf]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[leonmallett]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

[Cyberstrike]

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

[leonmallett]

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

[dornwolf]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

Whats interesting is that in one of those links BC talks about how many DC people are silently bailing to Marvel and Image makes me wonder if Valiants got any feelers out.

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

Would agree as well. The handleing from the outset of keeping Batman but wiping out everything else connected to Batman was ridiculous. Tim Drake is a wonderful example, he was never a Robin but took the name Red Robin anyway, Tim Drakes not even his actual name anymore. It's just bad.

Meanwhile as much as I like Geoff Johns, it looks pathetic that in regards to a reboot you make sure to keep your stories in canon and dump everything else. On top of that it was supposed to be a fresh start but Green Lantern literally started in the middle of a storyline with Sinestro.

[ShadowTuga]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

Whats interesting is that in one of those links BC talks about how many DC people are silently bailing to Marvel and Image makes me wonder if Valiants got any feelers out.

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

Would agree as well. The handleing from the outset of keeping Batman but wiping out everything else connected to Batman was ridiculous. Tim Drake is a wonderful example, he was never a Robin but took the name Red Robin anyway, Tim Drakes not even his actual name anymore. It's just bad.

Meanwhile as much as I like Geoff Johns, it looks pathetic that in regards to a reboot you make sure to keep your stories in canon and dump everything else. On top of that it was supposed to be a fresh start but Green Lantern literally started in the middle of a storyline with Sinestro.

Emphasis mine. Where did this happen? TT? My only reads of anything Tim were during Eternal and the (very, very rare) occasional cameo in Batman. I'd really like to know what happened here

EDIT- So it was TT #0 that revealed this nonsense. Glad i passed.

[dornwolf]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

Whats interesting is that in one of those links BC talks about how many DC people are silently bailing to Marvel and Image makes me wonder if Valiants got any feelers out.

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

Would agree as well. The handleing from the outset of keeping Batman but wiping out everything else connected to Batman was ridiculous. Tim Drake is a wonderful example, he was never a Robin but took the name Red Robin anyway, Tim Drakes not even his actual name anymore. It's just bad.

Meanwhile as much as I like Geoff Johns, it looks pathetic that in regards to a reboot you make sure to keep your stories in canon and dump everything else. On top of that it was supposed to be a fresh start but Green Lantern literally started in the middle of a storyline with Sinestro.

Emphasis mine. Where did this happen? TT? My only reads of anything Tim were during Eternal and the (very, very rare) occasional cameo in Batman. I'd really like to know what happened here

EDIT- So it was TT #0 that revealed this nonsense. Glad i passed.

Oh good, for a minute I thought they'd actually removed that.

Overall the entire Teen Titans set of characters have been badly mishandled. Looking at it...

Cyborg...despite being on Justice League as the token black guy was the only member who didn't get a book at launch and didn't until just last year.
Dicks entire generation actually was erased and everyone was basically aged out of it ever working.
Donna and Garth only just now have come back
Raven, Beast Boy and race flipped Wally have been aged right out of this generation of heroes and into the next
Starfire and Arsenal have both done okay despite the Outlaws original launch

Tims generation is worse.

As I mentioned Tims not really Tim and that theme continues actually for that entire team
Wonder Girl...well her origin is now Wonder Womans and I think her powers are from some Witchblade like thing
Kid Flash... god, well he's Bart Allen but he's not Barrys grandson and then he's Bart Allen but Bar Torr and just

Finally, Superboy well Superboy is well he's Cable now. Seriously it's Cables origin. He's a clone of the original Superboy who is Superman and Lois Lanes son who almost died but was kidnapped then cloned then the clone who we originally followed died and was replaced by the real one who is also a bad guy who is pretending to be good before finally being replaced again by the clone.

[nonplayer]

I'd say one of the biggest problems in comics these days is the constant four issue arcs. It's the same over and over with different people. Bloodshot Reborn issues 1-9 felt like one story arc I'm amazed so few people are raving about it.
Back in the gold key days comics were one issue arcs. I would really like to see the return of that and less four issue arcs. I understand they are made to transfer into trades better but I'm really getting sick of it. I don't like having piles of four issue stories. I like continuity. So far from harbinger to Imperium was great. Really I never liked marvel or dc. I always thought superman was stupid same with Batman.
Spiderman was pretty good but I never bought a dc or marvel title like ever. Except investments.

[dornwolf]

I'd say one of the biggest problems in comics these days is the constant four issue arcs. It's the same over and over with different people. Bloodshot Reborn issues 1-9 felt like one story arc I'm amazed so few people are raving about it.
Back in the gold key days comics were one issue arcs. I would really like to see the return of that and less four issue arcs. I understand they are made to transfer into trades better but I'm really getting sick of it. I don't like having piles of four issue stories. I like continuity. So far from harbinger to Imperium was great. Really I never liked marvel or dc. I always thought superman was stupid same with Batman.
Spiderman was pretty good but I never bought a dc or marvel title like ever. Except investments.

While your complaint is totally valid this really wasn't the problem with DC's approach this time around. Doing 4 issue arcs that are for trade is basically industry standard now. That's not going to change for the reboot/launch whatever it is.

[ShadowTuga]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

Whats interesting is that in one of those links BC talks about how many DC people are silently bailing to Marvel and Image makes me wonder if Valiants got any feelers out.

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

Would agree as well. The handleing from the outset of keeping Batman but wiping out everything else connected to Batman was ridiculous. Tim Drake is a wonderful example, he was never a Robin but took the name Red Robin anyway, Tim Drakes not even his actual name anymore. It's just bad.

Meanwhile as much as I like Geoff Johns, it looks pathetic that in regards to a reboot you make sure to keep your stories in canon and dump everything else. On top of that it was supposed to be a fresh start but Green Lantern literally started in the middle of a storyline with Sinestro.

Emphasis mine. Where did this happen? TT? My only reads of anything Tim were during Eternal and the (very, very rare) occasional cameo in Batman. I'd really like to know what happened here

EDIT- So it was TT #0 that revealed this nonsense. Glad i passed.

Oh good, for a minute I thought they'd actually removed that.

Overall the entire Teen Titans set of characters have been badly mishandled. Looking at it...

Cyborg...despite being on Justice League as the token black guy was the only member who didn't get a book at launch and didn't until just last year.
Dicks entire generation actually was erased and everyone was basically aged out of it ever working.
Donna and Garth only just now have come back
Raven, Beast Boy and race flipped Wally have been aged right out of this generation of heroes and into the next
Starfire and Arsenal have both done okay despite the Outlaws original launch

Tims generation is worse.

As I mentioned Tims not really Tim and that theme continues actually for that entire team
Wonder Girl...well her origin is now Wonder Womans and I think her powers are from some Witchblade like thing
Kid Flash... god, well he's Bart Allen but he's not Barrys grandson and then he's Bart Allen but Bar Torr and just

Finally, Superboy well Superboy is well he's Cable now. Seriously it's Cables origin. He's a clone of the original Superboy who is Superman and Lois Lanes son who almost died but was kidnapped then cloned then the clone who we originally followed died and was replaced by the real one who is also a bad guy who is pretending to be good before finally being replaced again by the clone.

We'll always have the Wolfman/Perez run. Geezez that sounds like some horrible editorial didiocisions.
I love the Titans, and when the N52 began I even considered picking it regularly. As soon as the SF issues came (definitely no pun intended) and the fact that Victor Stone was now a JL dude, i was instantly put-off by the book, childish as it may sound. My TT are the classic Robin/Nightwing, Donna, Raven, Starfire, Speedy ( Young Justice joke), Beastie and Cyborg. If they reboot the series with these characters done alright, DC will get a lot of readers (ME!).

[Cyberstrike]

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

I mean look at stuff like The Transformers and G.I. Joe there are plenty of comics from these IPs by many different publishers and while some are great and some are so bad that you wouldn't want to use them for toilet paper. You don't need to read any of the Marvel Transformers comics to understand what was going on with IDW's Transformers comics. Outside of the so-called "direct continuations" like IDW's revival of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero and Transformers: Regeneration One both of which IMHO feels mostly so a relative young company like IDW can have a high-number series without actually having to make one of their own and you know publish it for decades. Even then it's at best 20 years too late or it's just a glorified fan comic by creators like Larry Hama and Simon Furman who basically only really known for their work on G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero and The Transformers respectfully but their best work is behind them and they're coasting on their legacy with these IPs, nostalgia, and the fans' good graces, but their are already much better writers like Mike Costa on the IDW's own G.I. Joe and James Roberts on Transformers universes.

[dornwolf]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

Whats interesting is that in one of those links BC talks about how many DC people are silently bailing to Marvel and Image makes me wonder if Valiants got any feelers out.

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

Would agree as well. The handleing from the outset of keeping Batman but wiping out everything else connected to Batman was ridiculous. Tim Drake is a wonderful example, he was never a Robin but took the name Red Robin anyway, Tim Drakes not even his actual name anymore. It's just bad.

Meanwhile as much as I like Geoff Johns, it looks pathetic that in regards to a reboot you make sure to keep your stories in canon and dump everything else. On top of that it was supposed to be a fresh start but Green Lantern literally started in the middle of a storyline with Sinestro.

Emphasis mine. Where did this happen? TT? My only reads of anything Tim were during Eternal and the (very, very rare) occasional cameo in Batman. I'd really like to know what happened here

EDIT- So it was TT #0 that revealed this nonsense. Glad i passed.

Oh good, for a minute I thought they'd actually removed that.

Overall the entire Teen Titans set of characters have been badly mishandled. Looking at it...

Cyborg...despite being on Justice League as the token black guy was the only member who didn't get a book at launch and didn't until just last year.
Dicks entire generation actually was erased and everyone was basically aged out of it ever working.
Donna and Garth only just now have come back
Raven, Beast Boy and race flipped Wally have been aged right out of this generation of heroes and into the next
Starfire and Arsenal have both done okay despite the Outlaws original launch

Tims generation is worse.

As I mentioned Tims not really Tim and that theme continues actually for that entire team
Wonder Girl...well her origin is now Wonder Womans and I think her powers are from some Witchblade like thing
Kid Flash... god, well he's Bart Allen but he's not Barrys grandson and then he's Bart Allen but Bar Torr and just

Finally, Superboy well Superboy is well he's Cable now. Seriously it's Cables origin. He's a clone of the original Superboy who is Superman and Lois Lanes son who almost died but was kidnapped then cloned then the clone who we originally followed died and was replaced by the real one who is also a bad guy who is pretending to be good before finally being replaced again by the clone.

We'll always have the Wolfman/Perez run. Geezez that sounds like some horrible editorial didiocisions.
I love the Titans, and when the N52 began I even considered picking it regularly. As soon as the SF issues came (definitely no pun intended) and the fact that Victor Stone was now a JL dude, i was instantly put-off by the book, childish as it may sound. My TT are the classic Robin/Nightwing, Donna, Raven, Starfire, Speedy ( Young Justice joke), Beastie and Cyborg. If they reboot the series with these characters done alright, DC will get a lot of readers (ME!).

Well there is the current Titan Hunt series that seems to be trying to ram the classic generation back into continuity. Know idea if it's actually going to matter now with this rebirth thing coming.

[Cyberstrike]

Don't like to double post but some more info

Basically previous pitches are being dumped even in the consideration process.

On top of that it may or may not be a reboot now. It all depends again oddly enough of the initial pitches.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... s-pitches/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/ ... after-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. If there is much/any truth in what BC are suggesting, then once again I wonder how Didio is till in a job?

His history of micro-managing stories to serve events is a stark contrast to this seeming lack of direction.

Basically he seems to veer to extremes in terms of style and level of interference between over-involved and direction-less, and I feel for any creator, especially those who are freelance and don't have an exclusive deal, who is trying to find work at DC amid what seems to be a publisher lacking true leadership. Not management, mind you, actual leadership.

Whats interesting is that in one of those links BC talks about how many DC people are silently bailing to Marvel and Image makes me wonder if Valiants got any feelers out.

I think DC should have done a hard reboot with the New 52. Meaning every story before the end of Flashpoint would not have been part of the New 52. The problem was that Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns wouldn't let their work on Batman and Green Lantern be considered not-canon and that might have been acceptable if their work on Batman and Green Lantern had not been tied to other heroes.

New 52 should have a been a 100% clean state for DC. Not a half @$$ reboot.

Agreed.

Movies and TV have proven that hard reboots can be accepted if done right, as WB are themselves likely about to demonstrate yet again with a new iteration of Batman clearly from a separate continuity from the Nolan and Burton-Schumacher big screen versions.

Would agree as well. The handleing from the outset of keeping Batman but wiping out everything else connected to Batman was ridiculous. Tim Drake is a wonderful example, he was never a Robin but took the name Red Robin anyway, Tim Drakes not even his actual name anymore. It's just bad.

Meanwhile as much as I like Geoff Johns, it looks pathetic that in regards to a reboot you make sure to keep your stories in canon and dump everything else. On top of that it was supposed to be a fresh start but Green Lantern literally started in the middle of a storyline with Sinestro.

Emphasis mine. Where did this happen? TT? My only reads of anything Tim were during Eternal and the (very, very rare) occasional cameo in Batman. I'd really like to know what happened here

EDIT- So it was TT #0 that revealed this nonsense. Glad i passed.

Oh good, for a minute I thought they'd actually removed that.

Overall the entire Teen Titans set of characters have been badly mishandled. Looking at it...

Cyborg...despite being on Justice League as the token black guy was the only member who didn't get a book at launch and didn't until just last year.
Dicks entire generation actually was erased and everyone was basically aged out of it ever working.
Donna and Garth only just now have come back
Raven, Beast Boy and race flipped Wally have been aged right out of this generation of heroes and into the next
Starfire and Arsenal have both done okay despite the Outlaws original launch

Tims generation is worse.

As I mentioned Tims not really Tim and that theme continues actually for that entire team
Wonder Girl...well her origin is now Wonder Womans and I think her powers are from some Witchblade like thing
Kid Flash... god, well he's Bart Allen but he's not Barrys grandson and then he's Bart Allen but Bar Torr and just

Finally, Superboy well Superboy is well he's Cable now. Seriously it's Cables origin. He's a clone of the original Superboy who is Superman and Lois Lanes son who almost died but was kidnapped then cloned then the clone who we originally followed died and was replaced by the real one who is also a bad guy who is pretending to be good before finally being replaced again by the clone.

They should have used the Young Justice animated series approach to the Teen Titans here is my pitch:
Basically Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, and Speedy want to join the Justice League but Batman, Flash, Aquaman, and Green Arrow don't think they're ready. They get mad and get into trouble that leads to an adventure where they find Beast Boy and clones of Superman and Martian Manhunter, and Wonder Woman (Superboy, Miss Martian, and Wonder Girl) and rescue them and this shows that they can work as a team but they just barely. So Batman and Aquaman come up with a plan to train them further and allow them to work as an advance recon team for the League. Green Arrow and The Flash reluctantly go along when the trainers/teachers/mentors are revealed to be Nightwing, Starfire, and Cyborg. Who could have them trying to find out who cloned Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter and why and inter-dimensional mission where they meet Raven and she joins the team and maybe they find a pair of top secret government projects called Gen-13 and DV-8.

And this is just off the top of my head.

[dornwolf]

First truely confirmed writer change. What ever happens with Rebirth Flash has a new writer as Van Jensen is leaving not only the title but DC Comics

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/09/ ... dc-comics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Odds are he pops up in a couple months at Marvel.

[Captain Craig]

Honestly, what is the point of collecting single issues these days? Everything renumbers, reboots, reborns...

There isn't a point. That's why so many have gone to Trade Waiting. That coupled with the decompressed seemingly mandated 6 issue story arc that 95% of books have.

My monthly floppy buying is down to about 15 titles and it'd be less than that if I wasn't staying with VALIANT.
I've voiced my displeasure and what they did on Bloodshot. At least EW has been bungled so the new restarts are an attempt at getting it right. A&A went away for it seems Ivar so I'm going to cite an understanding on that one as well.

VEI should tread lightly on any cancel/restarts cause I'm on the edge...well near it.

[ShadowTuga]

Honestly, what is the point of collecting single issues these days? Everything renumbers, reboots, reborns...

There isn't a point. That's why so many have gone to Trade Waiting. That coupled with the decompressed seemingly mandated 6 issue story arc that 95% of books have.

My monthly floppy buying is down to about 15 titles and it'd be less than that if I wasn't staying with VALIANT.
I've voiced my displeasure and what they did on Bloodshot. At least EW has been bungled so the new restarts are an attempt at getting it right. A&A went away for it seems Ivar so I'm going to cite an understanding on that one as well.

VEI should tread lightly on any cancel/restarts cause I'm on the edge...well near it.

You're not the only one. I love the stories but it seems that the fun of collecting singles of an entire "universe" of books (or a corner of a bigger universe, e.g. Batman or X-Men) is now gone for the most part, because of the reasons you mentioned (the 6 issue arcs are really inviting for trade reading);
I truly hope that Valiant does not goes the Marvel and DC way, when it comes to renumbering everything now and then. People say that the story is what matter and I totally agree, but "collecting" is fun and a part of the money comics make are from collectors, not only readers. Let's please the collectors, seems like the smart move to me. These renumberings are like the old superhero movies (pre MCU) where thing were always "grounded in reality" because otherwise it would be comic booky/stupid (e.g. the X-Men's first trilogy with the leather suits)- they are trying to reach a bigger reading audience that does not care for comics 99% of their time. Why??? Meanwhile, collectors (who are also loyal readers to begin with) are left with reboots and renumberings that for the most part, *SQUEE* everyone off.

That said, i hope that the Bat-books don't get renumbered in June. Even if these 4 and 1/2 years are filled with continuity errors.

[dornwolf]

DC heads on Twitter putting out a new image claiming that it's not a Reboot

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... never-was/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On the flip side Alfred in Batman is missing his hand and possibly has it back by the relaunch. They've actually been pretty not commital

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... -spoilers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And writer rumor

Marguerite Bennett on Wonder Woman

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... ing-comic/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ShadowTuga]

DC heads on Twitter putting out a new image claiming that it's not a Reboot

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... never-was/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On the flip side Alfred in Batman is missing his hand and possibly has it back by the relaunch. They've actually been pretty not commital

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... -spoilers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And writer rumor

Marguerite Bennett on Wonder Woman

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... ing-comic/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The missing hand is going to be tough to hide if there's not a reboot... I thought this was going to be a major issue for Penny-One from then on, but yeah, pretty non.commital from what I'm seeing in the books.

Thanks for the heads-up, wolf.

[dornwolf]

DC heads on Twitter putting out a new image claiming that it's not a Reboot

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... never-was/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On the flip side Alfred in Batman is missing his hand and possibly has it back by the relaunch. They've actually been pretty not commital

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... -spoilers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And writer rumor

Marguerite Bennett on Wonder Woman

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/15/ ... ing-comic/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The missing hand is going to be tough to hide if there's not a reboot... I thought this was going to be a major issue for Penny-One from then on, but yeah, pretty non.commital from what I'm seeing in the books.

Thanks for the heads-up, wolf.

No problem. Won't lie, haven't been this interested in DC in years.

[dornwolf]

So May solicits

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/16/ ... h-in-june/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

nothing of real value. We're one month out not really been given anything just yet. It's hard to gain anything out of this. Some titles seem to have new writers others seem to be gearing up. So other than Justice League it's hard to make even a random guess.

[dornwolf]

I guess the big reveal is tommorrow

[ShadowTuga]

Yeah, from the solicits you would not say there's a reboot on the way. Will wait for tomorrow's news.

[dornwolf]

Yeah, from the solicits you would not say there's a reboot on the way. Will wait for tomorrow's news.

Keep in mind this was the same heading into Flashpoint as well. All stories were wrapped as best they could but a few were left hanging so again...

[dornwolf]

The rebirth announcement is today I gues but DC has revealed some news. Exclusive writers and artists

http://www.newsarama.com/28034-dc-signs ... birth.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tom King, Johnn Timms and sadly Clay Mann

[dornwolf]

On my phone so very brief news

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/18/ ... n-rebirth/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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