FCBD 2010

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:51 pm

its still a kilt

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:46 pm

tmcneil82 wrote: Must i refer you to the first part of the definition??
1. the part of a gown, dress, slip, or coat that extends downward from the waist

Skirt

I’m going to have to ask my sister, I’m really not up on these distinctions.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:39 am

dhudson1 wrote:Then she would be Magnette

dhudson1 · Post by **dhudson1** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:13 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
dhudson1 wrote:Then she would be Magnette

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:49 pm

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:52 pm

yep, a dress

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:05 am

Prelate1 wrote:Check out whats gonna be out on Free Comic Book Day

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091210- ... unced.html

Fantastic! Thanks for the news.

I hope this comes out as planned.

Have there been any updates on the VEI lawsuit? Clearly either the court order to stop Shooter from working on these characters didn't happen or Dark Horse is banking that it won't...

vikingspawn · Post by **vikingspawn** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:52 am

Does anyone on the boards here have a Diamond account?

Last year, a local comic shop here got his FCBD books sent in early April.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:33 pm

vikingspawn wrote:Does anyone on the boards here have a Diamond account?

Last year, a local comic shop here got his FCBD books sent in early April.

Diamond typically ships FCBD comics 2-3 weeks in advance of FCBD.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:25 am

sanman wrote:yep, a dress

Battle tunic...

-slym

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:04 am

Holy *SQUEE* is this awesome!

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:11 am

daydreamscomics wrote:
vikingspawn wrote:Does anyone on the boards here have a Diamond account?

Last year, a local comic shop here got his FCBD books sent in early April.

Diamond typically ships FCBD comics 2-3 weeks in advance of FCBD.

I wonder when they'll be ordered?

vikingspawn · Post by **vikingspawn** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:41 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:Spoiler (but in a larger size):

There's a small but slightly brighter image of the cover posted over at the FCBD site:

http://www.freecomicbookday.com/index.asp

There are still some details left to be seen in the cover art...

Crow331 · Post by **Crow331** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:49 pm

Did we find out if the Solar is by the same artist? I went to his website but it looks like it hadn't been updated recently. I sent him an email and got no reply as well.

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:59 pm

vikingspawn wrote:There's a small but slightly brighter image of the cover posted over at the FCBD site:

http://www.freecomicbookday.com/index.asp

There are still some details left to be seen in the cover art...

Brighter is possible with a little photoshop editing.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:17 pm

StarBrand wrote:
daydreamscomics wrote:
vikingspawn wrote:Does anyone on the boards here have a Diamond account?

Last year, a local comic shop here got his FCBD books sent in early April.

Diamond typically ships FCBD comics 2-3 weeks in advance of FCBD.
I wonder when they'll be ordered?

The end of January/first part of February

vikingspawn · Post by **vikingspawn** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:54 pm

Aragones drew a real cool "crowd scene/comic shop" art for the FCBD 2010 Shirts:

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:09 pm

OK, I want one of the shirts more than anything...

-slym

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:26 pm

very cool for sure

vikingspawn · Post by **vikingspawn** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:27 pm

The FCBD site updated thier page with a listing for the interior artist:

http://www.freecomicbookday.com/comic_solar.asp

Doctor Solar/Magnus FCBD 2010 EDITION

Creative Team: (W) Jim Shooter (A) Dennis Calero, Various (C) Raymond Swanland.

Publisher: DARK HORSE COMICS

The dawn of a new age of superhero excitement begins on Free Comic Book Day as Dark Horse Comics proudly presents the return of two of the most legendary characters in the annals of comics: Doctor Solar, Man of the Atom and Magnus, Robot Fighter — re-imagined for the 21st century by comics legend, writer Jim Shooter! This FCBD extravaganza offers all-new Solar and Magnus stories, each heralding new series launches in summer 2010, and featuring interior art by fan-favorite Dennis Calero (X-Men Noir) and cover art by Raymond Swanland!
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Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:50 pm

Neat. It's feeling so real. Not at all like a hollow promise and vague timetables.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:04 pm

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:29 pm

Chiclo wrote:Neat. It's feeling so real. Not at all like a hollow promise and vague timetables.

Well said.

Lets hope that we will experience the same 'cool factor' with VALIANT comics some time soon.

But dammit, dammit, dammit... how do you LOSE Jim Shooter to work on your books ? If it were me that had the IP, I would hire Jim and hand him the reigns and sit back to watch the magic show !!! I mean look at the 'magic' of the pre-Unity books. It may not be the same (because I do not believe we will EVER get that feeling that we had when VALIANT first started out... ever) but it would have that Jim Shooter cleverness that made the pre-Unity books amongst the most coveted of all runs during the VALIANT lifespan in the 90s.

If not ran into the ground, I think that VALIANT would have been serious competition with (definitely) DC and (a very good shot) Marvel. Marvel would be the #1 kid on the block but DC could have easily been going toe to toe with VALIANT.

VALIANT (remember IMO) was initially made to make good comics and then, if popular do the action figures, probably movies (which would have sucked back then due to not having computer technology as we have today). So, I believe that it started with incredibly good intentions but when Jim was booted (from HIS very own company, how in THE f@ck does THAT happen... DON'T get me started on that, ugh), there was a shift in plans and that was to make money, thus started it's downfall. Make a quick buck, get rich quick... can't really blame them when retail orders spiked but why didn't someone with half a brain think... 'now wait a minute, our back issues are selling for big bucks... so lets NOT fill the orders at 100%, if we limit the numbers of our books then they might appreciate in value and people will still want out books'. Well, that is the way 'I' would have done it. But, in a way... can't really blame them, they were making money 'and cousin, business was a boomin'. BUT STILL, I SO wish that someone slowed that train down because VALIANT could have still been around today. I mean look at Dark Horse, I don't really think 'much' of Dark Horse but I know that they put out great books (CGW, Predator, Aliens and I am sure more) but are just not up in the Marvel/DC realm (IMO) and that is where I think VALIANT could have been... the in between to DC and Dark Horse. There could have been a top three Marvel, DC and VALIANT with Dark Horse bringing up the rear.

I look at the cover to Solar and Magnus (from Dark Horse) and I am absolutely diggin' it... and that is just the cover !! I really hope that the interior art will be as equally impressive, but even if it is like the pre-Unity art (which IMO was nothing to jump up and down about, but it FIT the writing and made the perfect pair), it will have that 'cleverness' that I admire in Jim Shooter. The man's writing is very unique and at times he puts a foot into the forbidden lands. hehe And by that I mean, back in pre-Unity he had images of spider-aliens eating people, that was harsh, in Archer and Armstrong there was the sexual deviance of Archer's 'religious' parents and that was just touched on, not like some of the books you see these days (I would note: Crossed, that comic is MADE to gross you out and is a shock comic). But Jim, I think put a little kinkiness into the books that REALLY warranted the slogan 'these are not your father's comics'... Jim was not 'in your face' shocking but touched on it enough so as to when you finish the book or the story arc, it leaves you with a 'wow THAT was a ride' feeling. I can't wait to see what Jim has in store for the world when the Solar and Magnus books hit the streets.

I think that by losing Jim Shooter as part of the VALIANT team was a gross mistake as (IMO) he is one of those pros that you pay them what they want (because they are worth it) and just sit back and watch the magic. We (the fans who have stuck together and not alienated ourselves as have the new owners of the kingdom) had Jim Shooter in the cockpit of the best machines out there and for some reason, he pulled the ejection handle. I know that this is a rant post for me but I can sit here and hold my head in my hands and scream to the Heavens... WHY ? WHY was this incredible opportunity destroyed ? We loved the comics that Jim wrote, we COULD have had that again... it is a shame that I will have to go to Dark Horse to read VALIANT comics.

I don't know if this all really fits together as a logical post, but I do know that my feelings are strong on many things and I am sad because I don't know if we will really see good VALIANT comics... I am not nor will I ever be one of those VALIANT fans who will be doing cartwheels JUST to have a new VALIANT comics... there are some pretty big shoes to fill. I take great comfort in the fact that Dark Horse will be putting out two GREAT titles with a master at the helm that could very well steer these initial two titles into greatness... it is a greatness that 'could' have been back in VALIANT hands.

dhudson1 · Post by **dhudson1** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:38 pm

Knightt wrote:
Chiclo wrote:Neat. It's feeling so real. Not at all like a hollow promise and vague timetables.
Well said.

Lets hope that we will experience the same 'cool factor' with VALIANT comics some time soon.

But dammit, dammit, dammit... how do you LOSE Jim Shooter to work on your books ? If it were me that had the IP, I would hire Jim and hand him the reigns and sit back to watch the magic show !!! I mean look at the 'magic' of the pre-Unity books. It may not be the same (because I do not believe we will EVER get that feeling that we had when VALIANT first started out... ever) but it would have that Jim Shooter cleverness that made the pre-Unity books amongst the most coveted of all runs during the VALIANT lifespan in the 90s.

If not ran into the ground, I think that VALIANT would have been serious competition with (definitely) DC and (a very good shot) Marvel. Marvel would be the #1 kid on the block but DC could have easily been going toe to toe with VALIANT.

VALIANT (remember IMO) was initially made to make good comics and then, if popular do the action figures, probably movies (which would have sucked back then due to not having computer technology as we have today). So, I believe that it started with incredibly good intentions but when Jim was booted (from HIS very own company, how in THE f@ck does THAT happen... DON'T get me started on that, ugh), there was a shift in plans and that was to make money, thus started it's downfall. Make a quick buck, get rich quick... can't really blame them when retail orders spiked but why didn't someone with half a brain think... 'now wait a minute, our back issues are selling for big bucks... so lets NOT fill the orders at 100%, if we limit the numbers of our books then they might appreciate in value and people will still want out books'. Well, that is the way 'I' would have done it. But, in a way... can't really blame them, they were making money 'and cousin, business was a boomin'. BUT STILL, I SO wish that someone slowed that train down because VALIANT could have still been around today. I mean look at Dark Horse, I don't really think 'much' of Dark Horse but I know that they put out great books (CGW, Predator, Aliens and I am sure more) but are just not up in the Marvel/DC realm (IMO) and that is where I think VALIANT could have been... the in between to DC and Dark Horse. There could have been a top three Marvel, DC and VALIANT with Dark Horse bringing up the rear.

I look at the cover to Solar and Magnus (from Dark Horse) and I am absolutely diggin' it... and that is just the cover !! I really hope that the interior art will be as equally impressive, but even if it is like the pre-Unity art (which IMO was nothing to jump up and down about, but it FIT the writing and made the perfect pair), it will have that 'cleverness' that I admire in Jim Shooter. The man's writing is very unique and at times he puts a foot into the forbidden lands. hehe And by that I mean, back in pre-Unity he had images of spider-aliens eating people, that was harsh, in Archer and Armstrong there was the sexual deviance of Archer's 'religious' parents and that was just touched on, not like some of the books you see these days (I would note: Crossed, that comic is MADE to gross you out and is a shock comic). But Jim, I think put a little kinkiness into the books that REALLY warranted the slogan 'these are not your father's comics'... Jim was not 'in your face' shocking but touched on it enough so as to when you finish the book or the story arc, it leaves you with a 'wow THAT was a ride' feeling. I can't wait to see what Jim has in store for the world when the Solar and Magnus books hit the streets.

I think that by losing Jim Shooter as part of the VALIANT team was a gross mistake as (IMO) he is one of those pros that you pay them what they want (because they are worth it) and just sit back and watch the magic. We (the fans who have stuck together and not alienated ourselves as have the new owners of the kingdom) had Jim Shooter in the cockpit of the best machines out there and for some reason, he pulled the ejection handle. I know that this is a rant post for me but I can sit here and hold my head in my hands and scream to the Heavens... WHY ? WHY was this incredible opportunity destroyed ? We loved the comics that Jim wrote, we COULD have had that again... it is a shame that I will have to go to Dark Horse to read VALIANT comics.

I don't know if this all really fits together as a logical post, but I do know that my feelings are strong on many things and I am sad because I don't know if we will really see good VALIANT comics... I am not nor will I ever be one of those VALIANT fans who will be doing cartwheels JUST to have a new VALIANT comics... there are some pretty big shoes to fill. I take great comfort in the fact that Dark Horse will be putting out two GREAT titles with a master at the helm that could very well steer these initial two titles into greatness... it is a greatness that 'could' have been back in VALIANT hands.

It is hard to say if Shooter would have let the company grow to the point of completely challenging DC or Marvel market share. I don't think he wanted to be in a position like he was at Marvel, worrying more about the business end and not as much about the creative end. If he had not been kicked out, I doubt the number of titles would have exploded as dramatically as they did, but the quality would have remained high.

With too many titles, it would be hard to continue the tight continuity he had established.

Quality was more inportant to him than quantity it seemed. And I think the quality remained fairly high for awhile after Jim was booted, but much of the story lines still bore his stamp.

However, if by serious competition you refer to quality, Valiant did beat DC and Marvel back then, at least at first.

just my

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:16 pm

ZWH has mentioned to me on several occasions that one month Valiant did manage to outsell DC in total units and that they are the only indy company to have pulled that off. I take him at his word.

Also - talking about the movies not being as good - I recently picked up the Batman (1989) movie and I was very disappointed at how poorly it held up and was surprised at how cheesy some of the cinematography was. If Batman was that bad in 1989, I shudder to think how bad Harbinger would have been in 1993.

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