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iggy101us wrote:2 recently listed auctions added to 1st post:

topnotchcomics $600 min bid and $670 BIN
Harbinger #1 from topnotchcomics serial #1075069006

go.go.gadget.games $0.99 min bid, currently up to $152.50
Harbinger #1 from go.go.gadget.games serial #0956743003
Topnotchcomics relisted the unsold copy below with $500 min bid and $560 BIN. 1st post updated.
Harbinger #1 from topnotchcomics serial #1075069006
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Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that 1k price tag is gonna happen, there was no price increase at all, even after the release of the new series. Like I said before, I think the demand of collectors who want this book enough to really pay that high price tag is limited. And throw in a new series, that will divide collecting dollars further, it seems even less likely...

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StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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GGSAE wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that 1k price tag is gonna happen, there was no price increase at all, even after the release of the new series. Like I said before, I think the demand of collectors who want this book enough to really pay that high price tag is limited. And throw in a new series, that will divide collecting dollars further, it seems even less likely...

I have no idea if it will ever hit $1k again, but it's way too early to make any calls. Give it a year and then we'll have a good idea.

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FormerReader wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that 1k price tag is gonna happen, there was no price increase at all, even after the release of the new series. Like I said before, I think the demand of collectors who want this book enough to really pay that high price tag is limited. And throw in a new series, that will divide collecting dollars further, it seems even less likely...

I have no idea if it will ever hit $1k again, but it's way too early to make any calls. Give it a year and then we'll have a good idea.
Who is Valman? I've been running across him on Ebay buying up high-grade Valiants for a long while now, and quite the impressive list he has amassed.

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FormerReader wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that 1k price tag is gonna happen, there was no price increase at all, even after the release of the new series. Like I said before, I think the demand of collectors who want this book enough to really pay that high price tag is limited. And throw in a new series, that will divide collecting dollars further, it seems even less likely...

I have no idea if it will ever hit $1k again, but it's way too early to make any calls. Give it a year and then we'll have a good idea.
Yup, and I wonder where the QR Variant will be in a year. It would be interesting to plot the price trends of both; I think it has viability to overcome Harbinger 1.

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GGSAE wrote:
FormerReader wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that 1k price tag is gonna happen, there was no price increase at all, even after the release of the new series. Like I said before, I think the demand of collectors who want this book enough to really pay that high price tag is limited. And throw in a new series, that will divide collecting dollars further, it seems even less likely...

I have no idea if it will ever hit $1k again, but it's way too early to make any calls. Give it a year and then we'll have a good idea.
Yup, and I wonder where the QR Variant will be in a year. It would be interesting to plot the price trends of both; I think it has viability to overcome Harbinger 1.

I would be shocked to see that happen. One is the most iconic Valiant issue the other is just a cool gimic cover.

It is going to be fun to see where things are next year.

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FormerReader wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
FormerReader wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think that 1k price tag is gonna happen, there was no price increase at all, even after the release of the new series. Like I said before, I think the demand of collectors who want this book enough to really pay that high price tag is limited. And throw in a new series, that will divide collecting dollars further, it seems even less likely...

I have no idea if it will ever hit $1k again, but it's way too early to make any calls. Give it a year and then we'll have a good idea.
Yup, and I wonder where the QR Variant will be in a year. It would be interesting to plot the price trends of both; I think it has viability to overcome Harbinger 1.

I would be shocked to see that happen. One is the most iconic Valiant issue the other is just a cool gimic cover.

It is going to be fun to see where things are next year.
Sure, but how many 9.8s and 9.6s do you think will be out there on the QR? There's probably less than 600 of these floating around! I stand by my assertion that the 48,000 supply will keep harbinger 1 attainable for people that just want a copy (or a decent NM 9.4 could be had for a more reasonable price).

In comparison, Birth of Defiant Universe sells right around $200 for a 9.8 (granted there are not a lot of recorded sales), but that's a dead universe, that very, very few people care about. And it had a print run of 1000. And the books were meticulously cared for with most ungraded copies being in NM.

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StarBrand wrote:Here's one. Opening bid 480.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-1-CGC ... 27c8d17489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ended last night without any bids. Also 3 more copies have been added to the population.

As of 07/16/2012: 87 in CGC 9.8 Universal, 6 in CGC 9.8 Signature

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We're in "stall" mode on these. Every month VEI publishes and gains market share a little more of the fuse burns away....

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Listed yesterday and added to 1st post:

Harbinger #1 from topnotchcomics serial #1075069006

$500 min bid or $560 BIN.

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iggy101us wrote:Listed yesterday and added to 1st post:

Harbinger #1 from topnotchcomics serial #1075069006

$500 min bid or $560 BIN.
I think topnotch was the guy who tried to maintain the price floor at 1k during the first downtrend, then ended up selling many for a loss....

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ckb wrote:We're in "stall" mode on these. Every month VEI publishes and gains market share a little more of the fuse burns away....
You think there's gonna be an explosion of prices on VH1? There's 400+ copies of this book in 9.4-9.8, do you really think the demand for graded copies will overcome the supply, especially if prices increase flushing more copies to market?

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GGSAE wrote:
iggy101us wrote:Listed yesterday and added to 1st post:

Harbinger #1 from topnotchcomics serial #1075069006

$500 min bid or $560 BIN.
I think topnotch was the guy who tried to maintain the price floor at 1k during the first downtrend, then ended up selling many for a loss....
I think it was "desirableitems". He bought 5 copies around $1000.

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ckb wrote:We're in "stall" mode on these. Every month VEI publishes and gains market share a little more of the fuse burns away....
You think there's gonna be an explosion of prices on VH1? There's 400+ copies of this book in 9.4-9.8, do you really think the demand for graded copies will overcome the supply, especially if prices increase flushing more copies to market?
IMHO the rate of copies flushing into the market will pale compared to increasing demand for this book over time. :)
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GGSAE wrote:
ckb wrote:We're in "stall" mode on these. Every month VEI publishes and gains market share a little more of the fuse burns away....
You think there's gonna be an explosion of prices on VH1? There's 400+ copies of this book in 9.4-9.8, do you really think the demand for graded copies will overcome the supply, especially if prices increase flushing more copies to market?

I don't see the price moving much this year, but even with the amount of graded copies out there I still see this issue as being the "key" issue to get. If Valiant finds it's place in the market, there are enough people who will want this book in high grade. I think in one year this will be a different discussion.

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StarBrand wrote:
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ckb wrote:We're in "stall" mode on these. Every month VEI publishes and gains market share a little more of the fuse burns away....
You think there's gonna be an explosion of prices on VH1? There's 400+ copies of this book in 9.4-9.8, do you really think the demand for graded copies will overcome the supply, especially if prices increase flushing more copies to market?
IMHO the rate of copies flushing into the market will pale compared to increasing demand for this book over time. :)

I agree. This book has maintained a value around $450 to $500 with a very small market. I expect this market to grow. How much is the key question.

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FormerReader wrote:How much is the key question.
It has been one of the odd ducks for Valiant books worth a large amount for a long while. But to expect the prices to go up because of increased attention towards the new Valiant Universe makes for an is an interesting assumption. I wouldn't bet against it.

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bosco685 wrote:
FormerReader wrote:How much is the key question.
It has been one of the odd ducks for Valiant books worth a large amount for a long while. But to expect the prices to go up because of increased attention towards the new Valiant Universe makes for an is an interesting assumption. I wouldn't bet against it.

No one really knows. We'll just have to wait and see. I hope it goes up, but if it doesn't I'm still glad i have a copy.

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FormerReader wrote:I hope it goes up, but if it doesn't I'm still glad i have a copy.
Only one copy? Awwwwwwwwww. Poor little collector.

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bosco685 wrote:
FormerReader wrote:I hope it goes up, but if it doesn't I'm still glad i have a copy.
Only one copy? Awwwwwwwwww. Poor little collector.

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Nuts! Wait a minute....Is this where I find out you only have one yourself?

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FormerReader wrote:
bosco685 wrote:
FormerReader wrote:I hope it goes up, but if it doesn't I'm still glad i have a copy.
Only one copy? Awwwwwwwwww. Poor little collector.

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Nuts! Wait a minute....Is this where I find out you only have one yourself?
I have a 9.8.

But it is without coupon. :!:
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FormerReader wrote:
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FormerReader wrote:I hope it goes up, but if it doesn't I'm still glad i have a copy.
Only one copy? Awwwwwwwwww. Poor little collector.

:poke:

Nuts! Wait a minute....Is this where I find out you only have one yourself?
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dhudson1 wrote:
FormerReader wrote:
bosco685 wrote:
FormerReader wrote:I hope it goes up, but if it doesn't I'm still glad i have a copy.
Only one copy? Awwwwwwwwww. Poor little collector.

:poke:

Nuts! Wait a minute....Is this where I find out you only have one yourself?
I have a 9.8.

But is is without coupon. :!:
At least you own one. The census is still low enough even a 9.8 Q makes for a nice book to own.

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