Is VEI dead or dying?

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:58 pm

Shame that this thread has become my legacy.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:08 am

dellamorte wrote:Shame that this thread has become my legacy.

It's not your fault.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:49 am

400yrs wrote:
dellamorte wrote:Shame that this thread has become my legacy.
It's not your fault.

It certainly is not your 'fault', and I say that in the context of my monthly post committment.

No, responsibility squarely lies at the door of VEI in my view.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:49 am

I know that a comic line like Atlas-Seaboard does not have the time nor the vivid history as does Valiant but I see here a former comic line that is back on the stands while Valiant continues to collect dust.

It is starting to feel like that Xbox 360 game Too Human... took the team YEARS to finally get it on the shelves, touting that is was going to change gaming or it took us so long because we wanted to make it PERFECT and then when it was on my doorstep... it failed across the board.

Whatever is taking SO... SO long, has a chance of not being that good after all. None of the remakes to date have inspired, impressed or blown people away. Maybe it is the market or maybe not but I can't think of why it would take SO LONG with this and not even have been able to squirt out a turd ?

Seeing as how we all have been waiting so long, I hope that everyone does not jump up and down when VEI finally gets off their behinds. For the wait, you would expect that these would be the best thing since sliced bread. Just because the Valiant compass goes into print someday, don't be fooled by fanboy preoccupation and accept substandard comics.

You can only wait so long until you start to lose people and that wait is going to taint their perspectives or you will be on the opposite end and call call a piece of dog-crap caviar just because 'OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.... can't breath... OMG OMG OMG OMG... 'Some Valiant Title #1' is hitting the stands !!!! OMG, I am gonna die... IT'S SO FLUFFY !!!!'

eh, you get my drift.

OK, I will go change my tampon now.

Triumphant Serial Number · Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:08 pm

sooooo . . . . anyone ever check out their offices? Or is it just like a mailbox?

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:42 am

Valiant = A Chinese Democracy... oh wait that came out...

Valiant = Duke Nukem Forever... oh wait...

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:56 am

Triumphant Serial Number wrote:sooooo . . . . anyone ever check out their offices? Or is it just like a mailbox?

yeah, I would love an update on this, if anyone checked it out...or did we lose some peeps. Someone make sure that slym and woogie haven't been replaced with pod people!!

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:42 am

Zaphod wrote:
Triumphant Serial Number wrote:sooooo . . . . anyone ever check out their offices? Or is it just like a mailbox?
yeah, I would love an update on this, if anyone checked it out...or did we lose some peeps. Someone make sure that slym and woogie haven't been replaced with pod people!!

Maybe slym and woogie got recruited by VEI when they stopped by the office and have signed NDAs so they can't reveal anything.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:37 am

ian_house wrote:Valiant = Duke Nukem Forever... oh wait...

Now, now... that game IS finally coming out. The same cannot be said for Valiant Comics.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:54 pm

Zaphod wrote:
Triumphant Serial Number wrote:sooooo . . . . anyone ever check out their offices? Or is it just like a mailbox?
yeah, I would love an update on this, if anyone checked it out...or did we lose some peeps. Someone make sure that slym and woogie haven't been replaced with pod people!!

I am still too busy to get into Manhattan during the days.

-slym

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:10 am

iggy101us wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
Triumphant Serial Number wrote:sooooo . . . . anyone ever check out their offices? Or is it just like a mailbox?
yeah, I would love an update on this, if anyone checked it out...or did we lose some peeps. Someone make sure that slym and woogie haven't been replaced with pod people!!
Maybe slym and woogie got recruited by VEI when they stopped by the office and have signed NDAs so they can't reveal anything.

I don't need a NDA; just pay me a few bucks and you've bought my silence for all but the most serious crimes! a/k/a "on retainer"

No, I haven't gone over to TWT's office to bother him. Why doesn't someone just PM him, I'm sure he'll respond to whatever reasonable inquiries you may have.

dave · Post by **dave** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:15 am

That's the problem...I want to be unreasonable.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:47 pm

mrwoogieman wrote:I don't need a NDA; just pay me a few bucks and you've bought my silence for all but the most serious crimes! a/k/a "on retainer"

Does a free meal mean you won't discuss anything we talked about that night?

-slym

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:57 pm

slym2none wrote:
mrwoogieman wrote:I don't need a NDA; just pay me a few bucks and you've bought my silence for all but the most serious crimes! a/k/a "on retainer"

Does a free meal mean you won't discuss anything we talked about that night?

-slym

It was pretty damn tasty....

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:36 am

iggy101us wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
Triumphant Serial Number wrote:sooooo . . . . anyone ever check out their offices? Or is it just like a mailbox?
yeah, I would love an update on this, if anyone checked it out...or did we lose some peeps. Someone make sure that slym and woogie haven't been replaced with pod people!!
Maybe slym and woogie got recruited by VEI when they stopped by the office and have signed NDAs so they can't reveal anything.

or replaced by pod people.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:13 am

Hive mind.

Burrito Boy · Post by **Burrito Boy** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:42 pm

Pod people? More like spider aliens.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:26 am

depluto wrote:Hive mind.

*hive mind*

-slym

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:56 pm

I'll believe Duke Nukem Forever when it's on the shelves at the local Best Buy.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:46 pm

slym2none wrote:
depluto wrote:Hive mind.
*hive mind*

-slym

Even I'm around often enough to remember that reference. Heh.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:59 pm

Second_Death wrote:
slym2none wrote:
depluto wrote:Hive mind.
*hive mind*
Even I'm around often enough to remember that reference. Heh.

Welcome to the board!

-slym

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:59 am

That time again I guess. VEI as a comics publisher are dead as far as I can tell, and was barely ever living - and 400yrs owns the best quote on that issue of publishing (from 2008):

400yrs wrote:
dino wrote: No new comics by years end?
I think you are referring to monthly pamphlets since new comics have been included with each hardcover. In that case, I'm sorry you misunderstood. Read more carefully next time.
It sucks that "new comics" cost $24.95 now for like 8 pages. Do you plan to collect these stories at some point and put into a single issue (which is what I consider a "comic")?

Just looking back over some posts by dino. This struck me, his penultimate (thus far) post, from 2009:

dino wrote:Hi guys, We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing. The only reason I have refrained from posting anything is that it can often cause more harm than good. But everyone seemed especially restless today, so I thought I may as well jump in this time. I will continue to read, but not be active on these boards for the foreseeable future. Hope everyone had a great holiday. Dino

Prior to that regarding new comics publishing (again from 2008; sorry to rake this up):

dino wrote:
Geomancer wrote:

Monthlies!

By the end of the year!
Generating. Not publishing. No release date information has been announced yet.

So does anyone who bought those hardcovers feel let down like I do?

Anyone feel otherwise?

Anyone beyond caring?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:05 pm

I am still hoping.

It seems that right now there are a bunch of non Marvel and DC books that I see at shops. Not sure how sucessful they are, but they are there.

I do wish there was more information. I can also understand the negitive feelings that some (many) have here.

But, I remain hopeful, but not really expecting.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:11 pm

Just chatting to MOTA on facebook and he said some cool stuff that makes sense if you want to look at it from the VEI side.
You can always rely on Mike.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:45 pm

Elveen wrote:I am still hoping.

Same here. You can't say they were lying about any of the above things, because they had Shooter and were developing a universe with monthly comics (presumably) and doing it the way the fans had wanted.

Losing Jim had to kind of sweep the rug out from under them so to speak. I'm speaking with no knowledge, but I imagine they have been carrying on with a skeleton crew to cut costs. The fact that they haven't folded says they're still fighting the fight and for that I applaud them.

I understand the gripes many on here have with them, and I'm sure they would admit to making mistakes while learning on the fly. However I'm still glad that true fans have these properties and not a corporation (Time Warner or Disney) or a huckster like Taddeo (no offense).