What Valiant book would you not want to return?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:00:06 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:Rai.

Hell yeah. Energy weapon Rai, not the Blood of Heroes version (IMO).

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:00:33 pm

Ryan wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rai.
Hell yeah. Energy weapon Rai, not the Blood of Heroes version (IMO).

Definitely.

But I'd like to see Micheline back on it. That was his series.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:01:40 pm

Ryan wrote:So what books does everyone agree SHOULD return. I assume Harbinger, XO, Shadowman, Bloodshot... of course Magnus and Solar if possible. What else?

I liked Hard Corps too.

And Eternal Warrior and A&A are a given. Possibly these books can be combined, but Gil and Aram a such different characters. But both need to bee included.

The concept of Rai is also very good.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:02:54 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Ryan wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rai.
Hell yeah. Energy weapon Rai, not the Blood of Heroes version (IMO).
Definitely.

But I'd like to see Micheline back on it. That was his series.

That would be cool, and if Layton's doing work for VE then Micheline can't be too far behind. Would love to see Dick Giordano do some Valiant work too.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:03:29 pm

Ryan wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rai.
Hell yeah. Energy weapon Rai, not the Blood of Heroes version (IMO).

Yeah, no more "cry baby" Rais injected with the blood of heroes for me either. I want the original premise back.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:03:35 pm

Elveen wrote:
Ryan wrote:So what books does everyone agree SHOULD return. I assume Harbinger, XO, Shadowman, Bloodshot... of course Magnus and Solar if possible. What else?

I liked Hard Corps too.

And Eternal Warrior and A&A are a given. Possibly these books can be combined, but Gil and Aram a such different characters. But both need to bee included.

The concept of Rai is also very good.

I'd much rather have a Gilad book and an Archer & Armstrong comic. I didn't see much point in putting them in one series together.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:04:27 pm

Elveen wrote:
I liked Hard Corps too.

And Eternal Warrior and A&A are a given. Possibly these books can be combined, but Gil and Aram a such different characters. But both need to bee included.

The concept of Rai is also very good.

A&A was awesome, but I think it would hard for anybody except BWS to capture that magic again. Hard but not impossible.

whovianone · Post by **whovianone** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:05:21 pm

I'm gonna have to go with Secret Weapons. I think a re-vamp could fix alot of my personal issues. But, if they have the original team come back I'd be surprised. It could easily be like many other team books and could just foul up the chronology and other storylines. It's best to leave each title to itself.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:12:32 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Ryan wrote:So what books does everyone agree SHOULD return. I assume Harbinger, XO, Shadowman, Bloodshot... of course Magnus and Solar if possible. What else?

I liked Hard Corps too.

And Eternal Warrior and A&A are a given. Possibly these books can be combined, but Gil and Aram a such different characters. But both need to bee included.

The concept of Rai is also very good.
I'd much rather have a Gilad book and an Archer & Armstrong comic. I didn't see much point in putting them in one series together.

please explain.

I do agree, if I was in charge (and had tons of $$$$) I would have an EW and an A&A book.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:13:29 pm

Ryan wrote:
Elveen wrote:
I liked Hard Corps too.

And Eternal Warrior and A&A are a given. Possibly these books can be combined, but Gil and Aram a such different characters. But both need to bee included.

The concept of Rai is also very good.
A&A was awesome, but I think it would hard for anybody except BWS to capture that magic again. Hard but not impossible.

fully.

but the historical exploits of Aram through time just needs to be done. Even if it was a bunch of one shots or something.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:14:49 pm

I honestly can't see A&A having their own title and succeeding financially for the new VU. Combing Ivar, Gilad and Aram would seem the best approach to me.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:16:56 pm

Elveen wrote:
fully.

but the historical exploits of Aram through time just needs to be done. Even if it was a bunch of one shots or something.

Both Archer and Aram deserve a place in a new VU, no matter what. What that place would be is hard to say. In 'official' VH1 aren't they still in the Lost Land from Chaos Effect?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:16:57 pm

Elveen wrote:please explain.

I do agree, if I was in charge (and had tons of $$$$) I would have an EW and an A&A book.

I found that having an Eternal Warriors series severely undercut the uniqueness of the concept as well as took away from the character's stories.

The Archer andArmstrong spotlight issue, for example, completely turned the concept into a joke.

I mean, they had SPACE SHIPS!! Armstrong was piloting a SPACE SHIP.

That was nothing at all like the Armstrong we met in Unity, who was so completely anti-tech and prefered to go to a Speakeasy than fight in a war.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:17:45 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:I honestly can't see A&A having their own title and succeeding financially for the new VU. Combing Ivar, Gilad and Aram would seem the best approach to me.

yes... but how often were the three of them all together?

(reguardless, I just want to see these great characters [ and Ivar] back in new stories.)

[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:18:47 pm

Elveen wrote:[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]

You're lucky.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:20:11 pm

Elveen wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I honestly can't see A&A having their own title and succeeding financially for the new VU. Combing Ivar, Gilad and Aram would seem the best approach to me.

yes... but how often were the three of them all together?

(reguardless, I just want to see these great characters [ and Ivar] back in new stories.)

[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]

It just seems like Gilad and Aram have completely different stories with a different tone. EW was a serious action adventure while A&A was more of a humorous action buddy book. I don't know how well they would mix together.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:20:37 pm

Ryan wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I honestly can't see A&A having their own title and succeeding financially for the new VU. Combing Ivar, Gilad and Aram would seem the best approach to me.

yes... but how often were the three of them all together?

(reguardless, I just want to see these great characters [ and Ivar] back in new stories.)

[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]
It just seems like Gilad and Aram have completely different stories with a different tone. EW was a serious action adventure while A&A was more of a humorous action buddy book. I don't know how well they would mix together.

They don't, at all.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:20:51 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]
You're lucky.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:24:55 pm

Ryan wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]
You're lucky.

If only we could all make that claim, heh

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:27:50 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Ryan wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]
You're lucky.

If only we could all make that claim, heh

I thought a few dudes here have recommended it.

Maybe I'm wrong.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:29:07 pm

Elveen wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Ryan wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]
You're lucky.

If only we could all make that claim, heh
I thought a few dudes here have recommended it. Maybe I'm wrong.

It's alright if you're looking for something that has nothing to do with the Eternal Warrior, Archer, Armstrong, or Timewalker, heh.

SPACE SHIPS, man, they had freaking SPACE SHIPS, lol.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:34:03 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Ryan wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:[BTW, I have never read Acclaim's Eternal Warriors]
You're lucky.

If only we could all make that claim, heh
I thought a few dudes here have recommended it. Maybe I'm wrong.
It's alright if you're looking for something that has nothing to do with the Eternal Warrior, Archer, Armstrong, or Timewalker, heh.

SPACE SHIPS, man, they had freaking SPACE SHIPS, lol.

like Pigs in Space?

manningfan · Post by **manningfan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:41:45 pm

Wow, that was fast. What was wrong with HARD Corps? I thought it was a pretty good series. I personally never want to see the Geomancer series again. The original concept of the character got lost when they did an ongoing series. I was pretty bummed with Turok as well. The stuff that happened in Magnus, during Unity, and in the XO books were great. Once he got his own series though, it just was rank. Ninjak and Bloodshot must return, they are pretty neutral characters anyone can get into.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:49:34 pm

Elveen wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Ryan wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote: You're lucky.

If only we could all make that claim, heh
I thought a few dudes here have recommended it. Maybe I'm wrong.
It's alright if you're looking for something that has nothing to do with the Eternal Warrior, Archer, Armstrong, or Timewalker, heh.

SPACE SHIPS, man, they had freaking SPACE SHIPS, lol.

like Pigs in Space?

Pigs in Space didn't suck, so no, not like Pigs in Space, lol.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:53:21 pm

Elveen wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Elveen wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Ryan wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote: You're lucky.

If only we could all make that claim, heh
I thought a few dudes here have recommended it. Maybe I'm wrong.
It's alright if you're looking for something that has nothing to do with the Eternal Warrior, Archer, Armstrong, or Timewalker, heh.

SPACE SHIPS, man, they had freaking SPACE SHIPS, lol.

like Pigs in Space?

How about we read it before we make fun of it.